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  • guyhumualguyhumual Posts: 2,396 Arc User
    guyhumual wrote: »
    I see, so basically a slap to the face. Guess I shouldn't have clicked.
    Lol wut? it's FREE to LTS! Most people like free stuff!

    It's not free stuff, it's something that clogs up my currency bars that I can never get rid of.
    jonesing4 wrote: »
    I stand outside McDonald's for 12 hours every day protesting their senior discounts. As a person under 65, that policy is insulting to me, potentially a hate crime.
    I'm not protesting other people getting things, I'm upset that I now have something I can never get rid of on my character. Another useless currency.
    spinnytop wrote: »
    Yeah. The free thing that means nothing to you is a slap to the face. Now that's some top tier whining.​​

    Well I lost my ability to get new characters and now I have useless currency permanently added to my character. Basically lose/lose. I was thinking that maybe I might get something nice with this premium pack for having supported Champions all these years but that's not the case. But hey, doesn't affect you in any negative way, so better **** on people who are disappointed right?
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  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    guyhumual wrote: »
    but hey, doesn't affect you in any negative way

    just like it doesn't affect you in any negative way.​​
  • guyhumualguyhumual Posts: 2,396 Arc User
    spinnytop wrote: »
    guyhumual wrote: »
    but hey, doesn't affect you in any negative way

    just like it doesn't affect you in any negative way.​​

    It does effect my character though, it adds a clutter to my currency, which means if I want to look up currencies for events it adds more scrolling.
  • nbkxsnbkxs Posts: 776 Arc User
    edited July 2018
    If you want to color all your stuff at once, but are using FF slots, you can use the /powerhue 0 xxx command, where xxx is the rgb angle on the color wheel for the color that you're looking for.

    http://dawnsbrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/rgb-color-wheel-lg.jpg Use this. EX: if you wanted to color everything purple, then you would use /powerhue 0 270.

    If you wanted it more blueish, you would subtract from 270, until you got what you wanted, if you wanted it more magentaish, then you would add to 270. 265 is more blue, and 275 is more magenta.
    [NbK]XStorm
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    guyhumual wrote: »
    It does effect my character though, it adds a clutter to my currency, which means if I want to look up currencies for events it adds more scrolling.

    Wow, you're right, that is worth mentioning.​​
  • avianosavianos Posts: 6,163 Arc User
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    I don't understand this community anymore​​
    POWERFRAME REVAMPS, NEW POWERS and BUG FIXES > Recycled Content and Events and even costumes at this point Introvert guy who use CO to make his characters playable and get experimental with Viable FF Theme builds! Running out of Unique FF builds due to the lack of updates and synergiesPlaying since 1 February 2011 98+ Characters (7 ATs, 91 FFs) ALTitis for Life!
  • lezard21lezard21 Posts: 1,510 Arc User
    edited July 2018
    Glad that our feedback about the sub change and the premium pack was heard back when it was first announced
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    meme credit to @myself and @rb74#3001​​
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    lezard21 wrote: »
    meme credit to @myself and @rb74#3001

    Actually I believe The Simpsons gets credit for that one.​​
  • guyhumualguyhumual Posts: 2,396 Arc User
    spinnytop wrote: »
    guyhumual wrote: »
    It does effect my character though, it adds a clutter to my currency, which means if I want to look up currencies for events it adds more scrolling.

    Wow, you're right, that is worth mentioning.​​

    Well your annoyance of my annoyance is also clearly worth mentioning.
  • pantagruel01pantagruel01 Posts: 7,091 Arc User
    Instead of removing subs and implementing the premium pack, they removed subs, implemented the premium pack, reduced the cost of freeform slots, allowed applying freeform slots to pre-existing silver slots, and discounted LTS even more. There is certainly a subset of players for whom this is still bad, but it's not like they did nothing to respond to people's problems.
  • xcelsior41xcelsior41 Posts: 1,056 Arc User
    avianos wrote: »
    a1e.gif

    I don't understand this community anymore​​

    Well, if you were LTS, you would know while it wasn't a detriment, the tokens were more or less...redundant. Anything claimed by the tokens in the store could already be claimed by LTS overall.
    Buffing everything to stupid high levels and nerfing everything to piss poor levels yields the same results, but not the same community reactions.

    42 40s, LTSer.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Posts: 4,916 Arc User
    yeah, well, the tokens don't get in my way any more than MCR does.... yes I still have that on some characters
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  • i thought the currency vendor had an exchange for mechanon coalition recognition?​​
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  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    guyhumual wrote: »
    spinnytop wrote: »
    guyhumual wrote: »
    It does effect my character though, it adds a clutter to my currency, which means if I want to look up currencies for events it adds more scrolling.

    Wow, you're right, that is worth mentioning.

    Well your annoyance of my annoyance is also clearly worth mentioning.

    I didn't realize I was annoyed o3o thank you for letting me know.​​
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited July 2018
    xcelsior41 wrote: »
    Well, if you were LTS, you would know while it wasn't a detriment, the tokens were more or less...redundant. Anything claimed by the tokens in the store could already be claimed by LTS overall.

    As a LTS to me the tokens seem inconsequential. They are approximately 10 pixels tall, if that, and so the amount of time they add to scrolling through my list is such a small fraction of a second that it would actually waste more time to think of a reason why they are a negative than it would to scroll past them.​​
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Posts: 4,916 Arc User
    i thought the currency vendor had an exchange for mechanon coalition recognition?​​
    Oh it does, but IIRC you can't convert MCR if you have only one.
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  • sapphiechusapphiechu Posts: 272 Arc User
    The currency exchange will convert even just one of any of the previous currencies that it accepts. I've done it a lot of times in the past, and still occasionally look at an alt that I've not played for a while and wonder why I still have MCP tokens.
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  • xcelsior41xcelsior41 Posts: 1,056 Arc User
    And yep, further proof if you were a LTS/Gold and claimed everything so far, then this pack was pretty much pointless:
    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/champions-online/news/detail/10916073.

    I mean you can't argue with facts/reading.
    Buffing everything to stupid high levels and nerfing everything to piss poor levels yields the same results, but not the same community reactions.

    42 40s, LTSer.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Posts: 4,916 Arc User
    xcelsior41 wrote: »
    And yep, further proof if you were a LTS/Gold and claimed everything so far, then this pack was pretty much pointless:
    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/champions-online/news/detail/10916073.

    I mean you can't argue with facts/reading.
    and that's why it's free to LTS....
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  • xcelsior41xcelsior41 Posts: 1,056 Arc User
    xcelsior41 wrote: »
    And yep, further proof if you were a LTS/Gold and claimed everything so far, then this pack was pretty much pointless:
    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/champions-online/news/detail/10916073.

    I mean you can't argue with facts/reading.
    and that's why it's free to LTS....

    Well yeah no ones arguing that, in fact there really isn't an argument at all. I'm just saying it's not good, it's not bad, it just...is haha
    Buffing everything to stupid high levels and nerfing everything to piss poor levels yields the same results, but not the same community reactions.

    42 40s, LTSer.
  • kamokamikamokami Posts: 1,633 Arc User
    As an LTS, I liked claiming the pack in my Bonus tab. It was cool for me.
  • beezeezebeezeeze Posts: 927 Arc User
    I donno about all of you but I got a perk and title for claiming the premium pack so hey that is something... the currency thing is a pretty pointless thing to get upset about and claiming that it is a "slap in the face" is outright laughable.

    Sure we get it that you are PO'ed about the character limit thing and just looking to lash out over any little thing...but c'mon really?

  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    jonesing4 wrote: »
    This sounds like spoiled brat talk, MG, and we'll have none of that here.
    ​​
  • The pack is good for silvers, it was made for them, don't expect to get a benefit out of it for being gold or lifetime, I mean that's probably why it's free.
  • xcelsior41xcelsior41 Posts: 1,056 Arc User
    The pack is good for silvers, it was made for them, don't expect to get a benefit out of it for being gold or lifetime, I mean that's probably why it's free.

    Pretty much this
    Buffing everything to stupid high levels and nerfing everything to piss poor levels yields the same results, but not the same community reactions.

    42 40s, LTSer.
  • Could we add the Avian Warrior costume set to the Premium Pack or maybe Exclusive vendor so silver accounts can obtain it?
  • xcelsior41xcelsior41 Posts: 1,056 Arc User
    Could we add the Avian Warrior costume set to the Premium Pack or maybe Exclusive vendor so silver accounts can obtain it?

    I don't see it happening. That's a LTS exclusive set if I remember correctly(or at least a long time vet reward). A lot of golds don't even have it/had it when subs were around.
    Buffing everything to stupid high levels and nerfing everything to piss poor levels yields the same results, but not the same community reactions.

    42 40s, LTSer.
  • avianosavianos Posts: 6,163 Arc User
    edited July 2018
    Could we add the Avian Warrior costume set to the Premium Pack or maybe Exclusive vendor so silver accounts can obtain it?

    【FAT】 Chance, Highly Unlikely, Bloody Doubt it​​
    POWERFRAME REVAMPS, NEW POWERS and BUG FIXES > Recycled Content and Events and even costumes at this point Introvert guy who use CO to make his characters playable and get experimental with Viable FF Theme builds! Running out of Unique FF builds due to the lack of updates and synergiesPlaying since 1 February 2011 98+ Characters (7 ATs, 91 FFs) ALTitis for Life!
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    avianos wrote: »
    【FAT】 Chance, Highly Unlikely, Bloody Doubt it

    You stay away from my bird people.
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  • avianosavianos Posts: 6,163 Arc User
    edited July 2018
    spinnytop wrote: »
    You stay away from my bird people.
    Don't hurt me like this, as long as YOU stay away from my bird people
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    POWERFRAME REVAMPS, NEW POWERS and BUG FIXES > Recycled Content and Events and even costumes at this point Introvert guy who use CO to make his characters playable and get experimental with Viable FF Theme builds! Running out of Unique FF builds due to the lack of updates and synergiesPlaying since 1 February 2011 98+ Characters (7 ATs, 91 FFs) ALTitis for Life!
  • https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/champions-online/news/detail/1033620-900-day-veteran-rewards

    Says it's available to those who have subscribed for 900 days, so it doesn't appear to be Lifetime subscription exclusive.

    Heck, the other costume pieces aren't exclusive either; the Hammer Bracers (100 days) Wizard/Druid Robes (200 days) Spartan Lion Armor (300 days) Epic Revelation Armor (400 days) Glowing Tights (1,000 days).

    So I don't see why these shouldn't be made available since there are no longer monthly subs.
  • elseguard#5205 elseguard Posts: 77 Arc User
    Probably not, but does anyone know if there will atleast be some sort of ability to carry over a character or two after your sub expires or do you get nothing and have to make a new character to be able to even play?
  • kaiserin#0958 kaiserin Posts: 3,185 Cryptic Developer
    Players who are currently subscribed can still earn the veteran rewards. Lifetime players get them automatically. We have no plans to make them available in any other way.​​
  • kaizerin wrote: »
    Players who are currently subscribed can still earn the veteran rewards. Lifetime players get them automatically. We have no plans to make them available in any other way.​​

    Well, I guess that settles the matter. :/
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited July 2018
    Probably not, but does anyone know if there will atleast be some sort of ability to carry over a character or two after your sub expires or do you get nothing and have to make a new character to be able to even play?

    Yes. It's in the section labeled Freeform Character conversion.​​
  • pantagruel01pantagruel01 Posts: 7,091 Arc User
    edited July 2018
    Probably not, but does anyone know if there will atleast be some sort of ability to carry over a character or two after your sub expires or do you get nothing and have to make a new character to be able to even play?
    It works the same way as an expired sub always worked: you can convert the character to a Silver slot. That used to require turning the character into an AT, but now it's also possible to purchase a freeform slot and apply it to that character.
  • elseguard#5205 elseguard Posts: 77 Arc User
    That's pretty depressing. Alright thanks for the info.
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited July 2018
    That's pretty depressing. Alright thanks for the info.

    Why is that depressing? u_U You can keep using your characters after your sub ends. Isn't that a good thing?​​
  • elseguard#5205 elseguard Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited July 2018
    By paying the lump sum for lifetime which is a great price right now I think still, but I don't have popup cash like that. As far as I knew I would be doing the same thing I have for the past 7 years and paying my 15 bucks and all of a sudden i'm hit with a big forced higher price. I could also buy them all back individually for about 800 bucks total if my head math is correct.

    Its good they actually have a way to play with your characters now instead of just a promise to find a solution later, but the whole way they did this and how it is now just doesn't sit right with me.
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    Well, just don't cancel your sub and you can stick with the 15 a month.​​
  • elseguard#5205 elseguard Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited July 2018
    And when I take a break and miss a month or two? The way I have always played is I sub and then by the end of the month I judge if I am still having fun and up for more or not and proceed that way.
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    And when I take a break and miss a month or two?

    Then your sub is done. At that point, save up your 15 a month and use it to buy FF slots over time. If you're lucky a sale will pop up soon.​​
  • elseguard#5205 elseguard Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited July 2018
    I plan on just saving for the lifetime full price I guess. Just thought there being some kind of carry over like letting players keep one or two freeforms atleast so we wouldn't be completely locked out would have been nice. I don't plan on playing until whenever it is I have enough for lifetime since buying slots isn't worth it though so just saying it would have been nice to keep being able to play.
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    Yeah, they should have added a few free slots to Veteran rewards, so at least people who have had their sub for a while could have gotten something.​​
  • elseguard#5205 elseguard Posts: 77 Arc User
    Yeah that's mostly my issue now. While i'm not happy with the change to subs, I can accept it (mostly cause no choice), but leaving people out in the cold as sudden as they are doing is not right in my opinion especially to loyal customers who have ben subbed for years.
  • biffsmackwellbiffsmackwell Posts: 4,739 Arc User
    spinnytop wrote: »
    Yeah, they should have added a few free slots to Veteran rewards, so at least people who have had their sub for a while could have gotten something.​​

    Retroactively adding a freeform slot or slot conversion to the veteran rewards (like one for each tier) would have been a great idea. Why didn't you think of that sooner? Go to your room.
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  • colonelmarikcolonelmarik Posts: 185 Arc User
    I'm unclear on how this change will affect my characters if my sub lapses.
    I have a sub now, and about 20 freeform characters.
    If my sub lapses, how many will I be able to use? If I'm not allowed use any of them (normal when unsubbed), how do I regain access to them if I can't sub again?
    Once, I was simply called Mojo. Now, I'm forced into a new name, but don't be fooled, I'm the original STO Mojo!

    Crafting, Exploration and Interaction as it should be:
    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1108521
  • xcelsior41xcelsior41 Posts: 1,056 Arc User
    I'm unclear on how this change will affect my characters if my sub lapses.
    I have a sub now, and about 20 freeform characters.
    If my sub lapses, how many will I be able to use? If I'm not allowed use any of them (normal when unsubbed), how do I regain access to them if I can't sub again?

    That is a good question: for those who do lapse, would they have to essentially buy a LTS or $600(20x$30 FF slot for this particular case) of FF slots to play their original toons again?
    Buffing everything to stupid high levels and nerfing everything to piss poor levels yields the same results, but not the same community reactions.

    42 40s, LTSer.
  • elseguard#5205 elseguard Posts: 77 Arc User
    Two options: buy LTS or buy the FF slots for each of their characters in order to make them playable again.
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