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Give Meteor Blaze the Overpowered Debuff and Vorpal Blade the Commanding Presence ADV
avianos
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Damage wise Meteor Blaze is pretty underwelming and dissapointing ultimate
The lower CD doesn't excuse it's performance and the Fire Patch actually hurts DPS builds with existing menthods of applying Fire Patches on the battlefield
Since it already has the limitation of being a 50 Feet Ultimate it would benefit from the Overpowered debuff, remove the fire patch if it is needed and adjust the DPS of the power but please BUFF it, the ultimate has no ADVs and no other options to build around it. It could be useful for endgame debuffer
Second suggestion is to give the Single Blade Ultimate, Vorpal Blade, the Commanding Presence ADV since it became a norm for all melee-ultimates to own an agro adv and Vorpal Blade shouldn't be an exception to the rule
It's really weird that Whirling Dragon Strike has both the Overpowered debuff and the agro ADV, i thought ultimates could only have 1 of those available
The lower CD doesn't excuse it's performance and the Fire Patch actually hurts DPS builds with existing menthods of applying Fire Patches on the battlefield
Since it already has the limitation of being a 50 Feet Ultimate it would benefit from the Overpowered debuff, remove the fire patch if it is needed and adjust the DPS of the power but please BUFF it, the ultimate has no ADVs and no other options to build around it. It could be useful for endgame debuffer
Second suggestion is to give the Single Blade Ultimate, Vorpal Blade, the Commanding Presence ADV since it became a norm for all melee-ultimates to own an agro adv and Vorpal Blade shouldn't be an exception to the rule
It's really weird that Whirling Dragon Strike has both the Overpowered debuff and the agro ADV, i thought ultimates could only have 1 of those available
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My super cool CC build and how to use it.
1.5 cast time
0.5 activate time
90 second cooldown
Targets foe (10 max)
50 feet; 40 foot Sphere
Deals Fire damage to all targets, creates a Pyre Patch, applies Clinging Flames, applies Overpower, and Knocks them toward the center of impact. Deals more damage to foes that are closer to the point of impact than those who are further away.
Note: Damage should be somewhere between Gravity Driver and Stormstrike since Unlike Stormstrike, it's charged, but the charge is less than that of Gravity Driver.
Advantages:
[2] Rank 2
[2] Rank 3
[1] Commanding Presence: Generates bonus threat
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
And then we got Devastating Strike and Whirling Dragon Strike which are both freaking AWESOME
In comparison, this Ultimate is not as bad as the DPS output of Power Chord, Fractal Aegis and Endbringer's Grasp (which is what happens when you design ultimates around a specific gimmick which becomes useless in endgame) but it's not great neither
In fact I still believe the Fire revamp was very Rushed and Barebones job (heck there are still unsolved bugs since it got revamped) From personal experience It disappointed me and caused me to take a 3 months break from CO until the next revamp
A lot of people kept mentioning ingame and in forums during the PTS testing that Meteor Blaze was really underwelming and the fire patch should be removed, and they were right!
The Firepatch is worthless aditional damage if you already have Flashfire (1 firepatch limit) so this alone punish Fire-focus DPS Builds
and it comes with Zero advantages
Do you want to use it for Debuff? You can't
Do you want to use it for Agro on a Fire Tank? You can't
Do you want to use it for support with a possible use of a Healing Rune? You can't
What can you do with it? Mediocre damage which comes with a really limited range
Again, they are called ULTIMATES for a reason, they should reflect that, not dealing less damage from an optimized Fireball build
This ultimate needs the Overpowered ADV because there is nothing more overpowered than summoning a Meteor from space
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
After playing for a long time now with 2 character who have been using this Ultimate (1 is Fire DPS Build)
I can confirm that this Ultimate, SUCKS
and Now that all Ultimates were revamped to have a Lower CD, the existance of this power is still obsolete (since it had Low CD to make up for the low damage, distance and range)
and no I won't stop reminding it since I like building Elemental builds
Debuff
You would say "BUT WAIT, Crashing Incantation also doesn't have any special ADV", Yeah but Crashing Incantation is an actually GOOD ultimate
Because big chances are, you already have a power that applies a Pyre patch, from a plethora of updated powers from various powerframes that can apply 1 via ADV
and due to the fire revamp, you cannot have more than 1 PyrePatch on the Field
You can instantly replace Meteor Blaze's Pyre Patch with your regular one!
So we have an ultimate that
This ultimate, NEEDS BUFFING
- Upgrade the ft sphere AOE to be at least 20 ft (the 50 ft range can stay since Fire is a 50 ft powerframe after all
- Remove the Pyre Patch and the Adjust Damage
- GIVE IT OVERPOWERED DEBUFF I cannot stress it enough consider all those new ultimates getting Overpowered like it's candy
- Replace the Pyre Patch with a FISSURE from EARTH effect instead, that would be more useful and wouldn't replace your existing Pyre Patch. And Provide synergy with EARTH *WINK WINK* and makes sense on theme too, the damage from the Meteor caused an Impact crater
- or just make the Pyre Patch of this Ultimate stackable
These are some neat ideas. Another neat idea could be applying the "Furious Blaze" debuff to targets, a debuff that causes them to take 1000% damage from Burning effects.
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
YAY, this thread got the Tag of Death that prevents it from being on front page \o/
You can't run forever from this flaming poo Ultimate
That would also be awesome
My issue with Fire Patch is that will get wasted on the Next Firepatch/Fire Grenade
It's actually really easy to run from cause the radius is so small o3o
Also why do Ape's meteors knock me to kalamazoo but a player meteor only knocks down? `_` Seems unfair.
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
WAIT NO Even a Dino used as Meteor deals more damage than Meteor Blaze
Reality is often Disappointing
Enviroment meteors don't play by our rules
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
The dev team claims they make changes by "people's demands" (for example Arcane Flight leg switching fix, or Overseer Flight's existence) yet I've never seen "people" asking for these changes (Overseer Flight only occasionally, but I've never seen anyone complaining or calling Arcane Flight's leg switching a bug).
Yet here you have a topic, a recurrent topic that has been made and discussed by multiple people in the span of these 2 years...
and it gets swept under the rug?
While I can give a pass to a lot of things in consideration of the dev team's size and budget, this is highly unprofessional. Simply replying to the topic and saying "I don't have time for this" would work better to silenceing it down than shadow banning it. Again we fail to understand the importance of keeping a transparent communication with the community.
Like even Hydras leave a patch of fire different than Flashfire type fire patches
um... it's a necro of over a year dude. It has nothing to do with "topics they don't want people to see" LOL tin foil hat off!
They're not allowed to fix or make things people didn't ask for now? o3o That'd suck, some of the best stuff we have we didn't even ask for.
Yes, however will people know how upset they are about Meteor Blaze without this topic to remind them? Dx
Okay you must be trolling. It takes a special brand of forum looney to suggest a dev give that kind of a response without acknowledging the poop storm that would follow xD not gonna lie, you had me in the first half!
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True, but the issue has become relevant again now that all Ultimates have the same cooldown Meteor Blaze has, taking away the one thing it had going for it considering how underwhelming it is in every other aspect. I'd rather necro a 1 year post than create yet ANOTHER topic on the matter.
They are allowed to fix or make things people didn't ask for. But don't say you did it because people were rioting outside of Cryptic HQ holding you hostage till you fixed or made thing cause, you know, that will end causing people to think "hey, we've been requesting this other thing! why haven't we gotten this other x thing!". It's an ongoing problem with communication and transparency o3o
Again, recent changes have made the problem with this power worse causing the discussion to start up again.
This response has been given frequently and I've rarely seen a poop storm. Most of the people here are aware of the dev's team size and resources limitations, and much rather appreciate an honest acknowledgement of the problem and recognize not having the time or resources to look into it at the present, than sweeping it under the rug which gives the impresion that the devs either don't see the problem or care about it.
I would hate to see the Thread get Locked after getting Shadow Banned
No. It should have that as innate after effect instead and replace the stupid Fire Patch which is huge part of the issue as i mentioned
Pretty Much why I bumped my Thread
and it's true Fire Revamp had a lot of Oversights and Bugs which hasn't been resolved to this day
If bugs and issues persist, I'm legaly allowed as the thread's creator to Bump it
Well EXCEPT of the plethora of BUG REPORTS forum threads I made the past years and haven't event been touched... can't Bump those, that would be annoying! But i'm planning to make a personal List with Bug reports I posted and were fixed or ignored! Especially since the List of Know Bugs has been Devolved into nonsense from some specific people who don't even know what they are reporting
which does not mean your post can't be deleted, like when I crossposted the list of revised powerset bugs into that thread last week and had the post deleted :v
They wouldn't droptag the new topic because it wouldn't be a necro. So the question becomes... do you really want to shed light on this, or do you want a reason to make outlandish claims? For former, new topic, for latter, necro old topic.
Good thing they never made that claim then, otherwise you would be complaining about them making that claim and... oh..
Again, necroing is still against the rules. You can both follow the forum guidelines and talk about meteor blaze. It's possible! I'll even prove it!
You've rarely seen a poopstorm in response to dev comments!? ON THESE FORUMS!??! Once again I must make the statement "Yeah, you're definitely trolling" NGL I guess you had me in the second half too!"
My super cool CC build and how to use it.