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Justice League, X-Men, Avengers--those sorts of costumes.
Whoever you are, be that person one hundred percent. Don't compromise on your identity.
- David Brin, "Those Eyes"
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And as always it is their contest, they put in the time to organize it and provide the rewards...all we have to do is show up. Hopefully I will be able to be there.
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For me it went from guaranteed disappointment to complete resentment. If you don't think my costume is any good why waste our time?
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If you feel like it is going to inconvenience you because of length, timing, or you want to do something else... then don't go to that CC. Go to one you can make, that doesn't take as long, or has categories/host you like. That simple.
If you only went because you thought this was a rare chance for that sword, you should have watched some youtube videos or found something else to do while the judging went on. Check back periodically. If you sat around just getting more and more upset at the length of the CC or that you could you could have done something else (or worse - upset simply because you didn't win) then you are being ridiculous.
Should have worn my other tights....
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> It was three and a half hours and only the second but most defiantly the last costume contest I'll ever attend. I thought maybe it would have been an hour and then I'd get to join my friends, I'd probably would have been disappointed, but not angry or bitter. When you're made to wait for nearly 4 hours, completely waste your evening, well that's a different story. Maybe you think that sort of thing is fun but it's been my worst experience in CO in 7 years.
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You were “made to wait for nearly 4 hours” ??!!??
No wonder you are upset. People! The Devs were holding Guyhumual against their will! This is serious business! We support you Guy!
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It was so awesome
I mean honestly if you had that rotten of a time you should have left sooner. Or maybe you only started having a bad time after the winners were announced? uwu A nightmare? The best part you mean! ..of course I'm used to Kaizerin's shenanigens by now so I knew the pvp flag was coming so I immediately got in position and started lobbing ice grenades, TK Lances, and giant pink hands at everyone who wasn't a tank Owo try to guess how many of Jewel's defeats I had a hand in
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Multi-zone CCs will always take a while. You always get the salty crew coming out when things are so quick, or when things take too long. Make your mind up! Flawless tend to take less than EIGHT MINUTES from on-the-hour start to first winner announcement. If you're late to a Flawless CC, you're going to be out of luck. The times are in the contest-central channel pop-up for all to see, so there's no excuse.
A quick CC is likely for one of two reasons: The judges know exactly what they're are looking for, or the turnout is smaller (less than a couple of dozen).
A slow CC is likely for one or more of several reasons: Massive turnout (especially if it involves more than one Theater instance); obscure or open-to-interpretation theme/categories; small or solo judge/host count; technical issues on the part of the host and/or judges.
To guyhumual, I say this: If you are basing your entire opinion of costume contests on just the TWO that you've attended, you're basically not giving the format a chance. Additionally, with a turnout of over 200 like this years Halloween contest, the winners - as many as there were - were still only about ten-percent of the entire turnout. I will not deny you the right to your opinion, but in this instance, getting salty about the wait and perceived waste of time because you decided to turn up a couple of hours early is just silly. The CC start time was posted on these forums. You know what time it was due to start, and if you'd had more than just one CCs experience, you'd likely know that it would probably create more than one theater instance because of the volume of entrants. Nothing was demanding that you enter the theater any earlier that five minutes before CC start time (in which case you would have had to wait slightly more than an hour because of a delay entirely outside of Cryptic's control, or you could have gone made dinner, eaten AND come back in that time), and the number of entrants would have keyed you in on just how long this was likely to take. As it was, I was impressed that considering the sheer volume of entries, that the TWO Devs (as opposed to a half-dozen judges for more typical CCs) did a fantastic job.
People salty about the wait likely were there for a couple of hours before the scheduled start, and maybe have no in-game friends, don't have a second monitor to watch YouTube on while they wait (or how to alt-tab to another running program), or forgot how to walk out of the room and turn on their TV/stereo/console/read a book/pick their nose.
People salty about not winning at least an HM can just stop being a baby… those of you in this category I have absolutely zero sympathy for. We all feel a little let down if a costume we spent time on doesn't get some kind of 'official' recognition, but at the end of the day, this is a GAME, and CCs are run VOLUNTARILY, the hosts and judges effort and time put aside in order to provide YOU with a CHANCE (yeah, notice that link? I even did the looking up for the definition of that word for you) that you might win something that THEY have donated for YOU to potentially win for minimal, if any effort on your part.
This last bit is the most important. There are people that genuinely have hundreds of costume slots on a single character and can readily find a toon that will fit pretty much any category given, with perhaps minimal effort to alter. Others have spare character slots and use them to create a new toon specifically for entering the one CC (which does then involve some effort to create a costume), and if they win, transfer their winnings to their hideout and then delete the toon. Still others will not enter CCs unless their costume is a good fit, and don't make alterations. And there are some truly dedicated CCers that will spend 20+ globals on a costume change because that's how much they love CCs (as an aside, more than 20 globals can be earned by a level 40 toon in just eight Smash alerts, less if they use a Resource Booster).
So the next time you are about to put your fingers on your keyboard and start whining about how a costume contest sucked, or how it took so long, or conversely, seemed to be over too soon (or you arrived late and were annoyed at not being considered for a regularly scheduled CC), pause and think carefully about what you're really mad about.
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I've been to a few CCs, even hosted some, and they're all bad, everything is bad, you're bad! *baps sapphiechu on head with a thing* >:C
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Sappiechu's right, you know. This happened the last time I attended an official CC, too - there were three Theaters full of people to judge, and the judges had to keep jumping instances so they could see everyone and adjudicate fairly. That's going to take some time. If you can't spare that kind of time, it's best not to get involved - that's one of the reasons I wound up not participating this time, because I had pork chops to fry. (Had it started at 5pm Pacific, as originally intended, I could have arranged to have someone else watch the screen while I was cooking, but that's not how the universe unfolded this time.)
And given the costumes I saw on the "Classic" side, I like to think Hypernova would have really stood a chance.
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What tells me my costumes are good are random tells from people around the RenCen complimenting my character looks.
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I drank beer, ate pizza, watched some movies. Drank some more beer. Ate some potatochips. Popped in to check whats going on. Fought some nasty **s sharks. Drank a bit more beer.
And if you don't like there. Leave. It's free choice.
Don't think you accomplish anything by moping in Zone and in Forums how terrible time you had. Don't really care.
I hope devs have time to make more of these kind of gatherings.
Pip pip cheerio.
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Also for this contest, the categories were(from what I've gathered) done separately. Most contests each player only participates in one category, and may or may not win in that. This one the costumes were one at a time.
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This contest may have had some technical issues but I really hope won't stop you from holding many more in the future
'cause after all practice makes perfect
Nevermind, I get it. Anyway, I'm mostly writing this out of having been encouraged to do so, after having voiced my opinions on the CC. This is going to be a long post, I don't blame anyone for skipping it, but I appreciate the read. So here goes!
I had fun, in retrospect, all things considered. It did understandably drag on for a long time. But now we know, and if the experience was terrible for someone this time, then that's a real shame. For next time, that's something to weigh into the consideration. This topic isn't what I wanted to address, so I'm going to swiftly move on.
A lot of people, and people I know, found some of the results for the CC jarring. Not necessarily because it wasn't them, but because it didn't coincide with what they feel matches a show of practiced creativity and costuming technique (if that doesn't sound too obnoxious).
This isn't a jab at the winners, I'm really happy for those who won their respective places, and will always try to be glad on behalf of those who do.
This isn't a complaint as someone who lost, because I didn't, but I didn't win either. I became an honorable mention, which in the very least puts me in a semi-neutral "I didn't win, but didn't lose" position of perspective. Kinda.
The people I am in show of sympathy with right now, are the people who spend hours on end passionately making costumes and designs in this game, and the large portion of people who have effectively built a creative "meta" of techniques and improved at designing costumes over the course of years. A lot of these people remained on their respective squares, and their looks weren't bad, and the winners weren't bad, even though the winners weren't better.
And obviously this isn't a "Judging is subjective" argument, even though judging in large part is! My point, which I've made a slow climb towards, is that the devs don't judge CCs often. They may judge CCs the least out of any organised CC group, as far as I know.
Thus the devs aren't necessarily experienced judges, and that isn't to put shame on them, they are busy people. On the contrary, through technical difficulties they managed to pull off this 3-instance whopper anyhow, and that's admirable!
In the end the bottom line is simple, that the devs aren't as acquainted with keeping an eye out for costumes that invigorate concepts, or pull off something wholly unique, or manage some multi-piece trick to create an entirely new visual, or utilise a limited color palette to the fullest, or spend hours considering balance and value between the palette and pieces.
You get used to this kind of thing from judging time and time again, consistently, maybe even weekly, which many judges do.
Which the devs do not.
And that's it, really. I congratulate the winners, and wish everyone else (including the HMs) better luck next time, should you choose to participate. I know that high-stakes make a loss all the more frustrating, especially if it somehow felt unjust.
It is not a given that the devs are experienced judges, so if you felt overlooked, remember there were +200 contestants, and two judges who barely ever get to do this kind of thing.
Finally, if I offended anyone, or come off redundant, I apologize. I wanted to do this for people whom I think would find some kind of solace in it, or find it serve as some kind of pat on the back.
That's all! Sorry for the long post!
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It's like inviting a well-known designer to your show, and thinking they couldn't judge the models' outfits just because it was their first time being on the show.
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It was annoying, but a CC usually doesn't require anything more than the vaguest of attention, unless you are picked as a winner at the end.
As far as the winners/styles/judges--it's subjective. Since these devs don't run CCs often, we aren't familiar with what they were looking for. That's true any time you enter a CC run by new(er) folks. No biggie.
I'm happy that there was a dev event. The technical problems and delays were really lousy, and make a bad impression, but hopefully the turnout and enthusiasm will encourage them to run more events down the road.
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