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Celestial DPS/Healing hybrid build...

theteostartheteostar Posts: 6 Arc User
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I know Celestial is in a bad place right now, at least when it comes to its damage output, but I am really attracted to this power-set and the dual damage/healing nature of its abilities, so I was wondering if I could construct a somewhat decent hybrid dps/healing build that uses most of the powers from Celestial (even those that are largely considered inefficient, like Conduit).
So I only have the powers down:
1) Not really sure about the energy unlock (Conjuring) versus the other option (M. Self-Assembly). I am under the assumption that Illumination should trigger Conjuring?
2) I really like the passive (Seraphim) since it boost both paranormal damage and healing, also its small healing aura could potentially maintain Compassion stacks on its own.
3) Concentration vs Compassion. I don't know which would be more appropriate, the latter boosts healing a lot and damage a little bit, while the former purely damage.
4) I really wish to keep the main celestial powers (Radiance, Rebuke, Conduit, Vengeance).
5) Unsure about Planar Fracture. On one hand its considered a quite weak ult, on the other...well it's thematic. :confused:

And as for Super Stats and Specs, I have no idea. I know Constitution secondary is a must, and I suppose the other two could be Presence and Intelligence (since Concentration and Conjuring (or Self-Assembly) scale off Int and Compassion scales off Pres), but idk which of these two should be the primary for such a build.

Celestial Hybrid - Freeform
v2.3.2-25

Super Stats
Level 6:
Level 10:
Level 15:

Talents
Level 1:
Level 6:
Level 9:
Level 12:
Level 15:
Level 18:
Level 21:

Powers
Level 1: Radiance
Level 1: Rebuke (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 6: Seraphim (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 8: Concentration
Level 11: Conjuring
Level 14: Illumination
Level 17: Celestial Conduit (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 20: Vengeance (Rank 2, Redemption Denied)
Level 23: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 26: Soul Vortex (Rank 2, Soul Drain)
Level 29: Ascension (Judgment)
Level 32: Redemption (Rank 2, Salvation)
Level 35: Planar Fracture (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 38: Rebirth
Adv. Points: 36/36

Travel Powers
Level 6: Flight (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Teleportation

Specializations

Comments

  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,852 Arc User
    edited October 2017
    If not making a pure healer build w/ it, then imo best the use of Celestial atm is taking adv of Vengeance w/ adv to proc a buncha spec-related debuffs for the team. This makes it a semi-decent trash CC-er too:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.3.2-25

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Presence (Primary)
    Level 10: Intelligence (Secondary)
    Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Hero (Str: 8, Dex: 8, Con: 8, Int: 8, Ego: 8, Pre: 8, Rec: 6, End: 6)
    Level 6: Healthy Mind (Con: 5, Int: 5)
    Level 9: Shrug It Off (Con: 5, Pre: 5)
    Level 12: Diplomatic (Int: 5, Pre: 5)
    Level 15: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 18: Negotiator (Int: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 21: Lasting Impression (Pre: 5, Rec: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Radiance
    Level 1: Vengeance (Rank 2, Redemption Denied)
    Level 6: Seraphim (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 8: Concentration
    Level 11: Illumination (Rank 2)
    Level 14: Molecular Self-Assembly
    Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Celestial Conduit (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 23: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 26: Eldritch Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 29: Palliate (Absolve)
    Level 32: Redemption (Rank 2, Salvation)
    Level 35: Ascension (Rank 2, Judgment)
    Level 38: Rebirth
    Adv. Points: 34/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Presence: Repurpose (3/3)
    Presence: Dominion (2/2)
    Presence: Moment of Glory (2/3)
    Presence: Force of Will (1/2)
    Presence: Vulnerability (2/2)
    Sentinel: Torment (2/2)
    Sentinel: Sentinel Aura (3/3)
    Sentinel: Moment of Need (2/3)
    Sentinel: Wither (2/2)
    Sentinel: Genesis (1/2)
    Overseer: Administer (3/3)
    Overseer: Ruthless (2/2)
    Overseer: Impact (2/2)
    Overseer: Trapped (3/3)
    Mastery: Sentinel Mastery (1/1)

    Vengeance w/ adv can proc Vuln, Trapped, Wither, Sent Mastery, and Impact. Although the build won't replace a dedicated healer when in Hybrid role, it can still help a team's performance a good deal and fill in some gaps. Gears mostly for Int, w/ some Con and Pres.
    <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
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  • zombiehunter1968zombiehunter1968 Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited December 2017
    flowcyto said:

    If not making a pure healer build w/ it, then imo best the use of Celestial atm is taking adv of Vengeance w/ adv to proc a buncha spec-related debuffs for the team. This makes it a semi-decent trash CC-er too:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.3.2-25

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Presence (Primary)
    Level 10: Intelligence (Secondary)
    Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Hero (Str: 8, Dex: 8, Con: 8, Int: 8, Ego: 8, Pre: 8, Rec: 6, End: 6)
    Level 6: Healthy Mind (Con: 5, Int: 5)
    Level 9: Shrug It Off (Con: 5, Pre: 5)
    Level 12: Diplomatic (Int: 5, Pre: 5)
    Level 15: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 18: Negotiator (Int: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 21: Lasting Impression (Pre: 5, Rec: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Radiance
    Level 1: Vengeance (Rank 2, Redemption Denied)
    Level 6: Seraphim (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 8: Concentration
    Level 11: Illumination (Rank 2)
    Level 14: Molecular Self-Assembly
    Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Celestial Conduit (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 23: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 26: Eldritch Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 29: Palliate (Absolve)
    Level 32: Redemption (Rank 2, Salvation)
    Level 35: Ascension (Rank 2, Judgment)
    Level 38: Rebirth
    Adv. Points: 34/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Presence: Repurpose (3/3)
    Presence: Dominion (2/2)
    Presence: Moment of Glory (2/3)
    Presence: Force of Will (1/2)
    Presence: Vulnerability (2/2)
    Sentinel: Torment (2/2)
    Sentinel: Sentinel Aura (3/3)
    Sentinel: Moment of Need (2/3)
    Sentinel: Wither (2/2)
    Sentinel: Genesis (1/2)
    Overseer: Administer (3/3)
    Overseer: Ruthless (2/2)
    Overseer: Impact (2/2)
    Overseer: Trapped (3/3)
    Mastery: Sentinel Mastery (1/1)

    Vengeance w/ adv can proc Vuln, Trapped, Wither, Sent Mastery, and Impact. Although the build won't replace a dedicated healer when in Hybrid role, it can still help a team's performance a good deal and fill in some gaps. Gears mostly for Int, w/ some Con and Pres.

    Flow, do you realise that in your HeroCreator Builds, Resurgence is being replaced with Rank 1 Entrancing?
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,852 Arc User
    edited December 2017
    Looks like some of the HC links have faulty redirects now. Its happened before w/ the PH Planner, but I guess its kinda inevitable w/ the development revamps.

    *shrug* obv not intended, but if there's an older build link that looks corrupted then trust the exported text over it.
    <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
    - Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!
  • aesicaaesica Posts: 2,537 Arc User
    Also be sure to post about it in the HeroCreator thread. I want to know about things like this so I can fix them. :D (I'll patch this at some point now that I'm aware of it)​​
    (Hopefully) Useful CO Resources: HeroCreator (character planner), Cosmic Timers/Alert Checklist, Blood Moon Map, Anniversary Cat Map, and more (eventually, anyway).
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,852 Arc User
    Sure thing; didn't see it till that reply either.
    <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
    - Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!
  • aesicaaesica Posts: 2,537 Arc User
    Turns out I broke the entire bestial tree when I added moonstruck. Innocent whistle

    Anyway, should be working fine now. If not, refresh the page.​​
    (Hopefully) Useful CO Resources: HeroCreator (character planner), Cosmic Timers/Alert Checklist, Blood Moon Map, Anniversary Cat Map, and more (eventually, anyway).
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,852 Arc User
    Thanks, Aesica; glad it was an easy thing to spot and fix.
    <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
    - Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!
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