Subtlety of the Tides ADV for Pistol Whip, Swift Slash, Glance, Brute Strike, Feint

avianos

Here is the problem, all those new Stuns Powers on Click powers with Trauma advantage have little to no utility to and end up being cookie cutter stun-trauma powers with just different animations for different frameworks and don't provide more usages

They could use the ADV Crashing Wave Kick (Subtlety of the Tides) which buffs your dodge and avoidance for being in Melee range. This is Perfect for Dodge melee builds either they are Dodge tanks or offense with Dodge
it's a 2 Points adv so it won't be a free buff, you will have an alternative Choice

I know that DEVs HATE dodge for endgame (R.I.P Dodge tanks against Cosmics) but those powers need more UTILITY
1. Ranking them in rank 2 and 3 is a waste of points
2. Trauma is useless for PVE Builds so picking this power just for theme without using this adv is a waste of power slot
3. STUN is only useful for Crowd Control-Debuff or occasionaly interrupt trash mobs
and here is where the utilities of those powers end (not counting Challenge!)

what those powers need to be more attractive? MORE utility advatanges like the CHAINS powers we keep seeing

what other power was the first melee Click-stun but provides more utility? Crashing Wave Kick, a NOT so popular power which is mostly used for Dodge builds

Giving them the dodge adv will make melee builds them more survable with the following combinations
Bullet Beatdown + Composure + Pistol Whip with Dodge Adv
Single Blade + Way of the Warrior/Night Warrior/Lighting Reflexes + Swift Slash with Dodge Adv
Laser Sword + Way of the Warrior/Night Warrior/Lighting Reflexes + Glance with Dodge Adv
Heavy Weapon + Way of the Warrior/Night Warrior/Lighting Reflexes + Brute Strike with Dodge Adv
Bestial + Way of the Warrior/Night Warrior/Lighting Reflexes + Feint with Dodge Adv

and yes I know that Glance Brute Strike and Feint are from powerframes which don't have dodge mechanics, but we are playing a game where the player can chose a passive with dodge (like Way of the Warrior, Night Warrior, Quarry e.t.c)​​

aesica

These powers always kind of fall into the same category as the 25-foot knock-to powers, and by that, I mean "oh boy, yet another one of these not-all-that-useful powers." The knock-tos at least have several useful utility advantages, so while the base effect generally is more for theme and fun, the advantages are useful. These stun powers though...ugh. The laser sword version (Glance) is at least on the right track by including Download in its advantage list. It's too bad that Download isn't a very interesting mechanic in the first place...

That said, offering dodge enhancements on each one seems pretty niche. However, it might be nice to see other things included such as an easy apply for buffs/debuffs found in each framework. As it stands now, these powers are mostly something to skip because they bring so little to the table.​​

avianos

OOOPS I forgot Might's Head Butt... not that really matters

and agree with you, those power need some serious JUICE and utility to make them stand out instead of being just Cookie Cutter stun-trauma but the majority of the builds DON'T need
HECK some of those are being used by ATs
WHY the bloody hell would you want Rifle Butt in a soldier AT!?

Also I didn't even notice Glance has Download advance, but as you said it's not really worth it. Hell i need to remember to remove it from my laser sword build because it does little to no difference for the build, its a waste of 2 points