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the reason i asked this is because a crapton of people in the cosmic section really burned my blood today. one persion demaned nothing but dps for eido and then we proceed to say having nothing but dps was a bad thing, and then it turned into a how many of them can rant on hybrid players indiscriminately wether they were good at their jobs or not all because of my favority thing (sarcasm) endgame. this game was all about creativity so why make game related content that hampers the creativity?
seriously not a good idea. sure i understand the need to make the content scale up to level 40 but making the content to were everyone flips their **** if they see that little lighting bolt hovering over the characters head or see it on the characters stats. i really think that choice is a terrible decision.
i for one would like to run a regeneration character but since regeneration as many people stated alot isn't good at tanking so i would go into hybrid so i could at least deal some extra damage and have a bit more healing. anyways i can back to this game in a few days saw i could reset my toon so i did heavy weapons and went to melee dps but when i saw how many people would flip their **** and go one how the hybrids ruin a lot of their precious cosmic runs all the time that really bothered me.
seriously not a good idea. sure i understand the need to make the content scale up to level 40 but making the content to were everyone flips their **** if they see that little lighting bolt hovering over the characters head or see it on the characters stats. i really think that choice is a terrible decision.
i for one would like to run a regeneration character but since regeneration as many people stated alot isn't good at tanking so i would go into hybrid so i could at least deal some extra damage and have a bit more healing. anyways i can back to this game in a few days saw i could reset my toon so i did heavy weapons and went to melee dps but when i saw how many people would flip their **** and go one how the hybrids ruin a lot of their precious cosmic runs all the time that really bothered me.
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The bosses and enemies at most are only going to attack one or two targets at a time with their most devastating attacks. This is what the tanks are for. If there are extra mobs, off-tanks are the most efficient way to round up and control them. Otherwise, unmitigated chaos will likely at best, distract other players, and at worst, cause everyone else to die. Any less survivability or threat drawing would just cause all that damage to land on the hardest-hitting players, which are usually running in the DPS role. The hybrid role isn't the most viable for tanking in this situation.
The general damage output of the boss means that those taking damage will likely need extra survivability. This is where healers come in, which are specifically tailored to output the highest possible healing and shields. Any less healing would face the risk of the tanks dying and instantly facing towards the DPS with their devastating attacks, and the support role offers up such a severe increase in healing strength and energy reliability that the hybrid role cannot match easily. The hybrid role isn't the most viable for healing in this situation.
This leaves a specific group of players that are tasked with damaging the boss. These are people not taking damage, and not reliable normally for the survival of the group. However, specific battles in the game are tailored to test their skills and damage output, such as Teleiosaurus and Eidolon of Destruction, with timed damage checks that, if failed, will make the cosmic's run likely fail in some way. To more easily pass this check, those responsible for dealing damage are smart to run their build in a DPS role, which deals more damage than hybrid, meanwhile also mitigating their own threat draw and energy loss. The hybrid role isn't the most viable for damaging in these situations.
To make any piece of content cater to the capabilities of a hybrid would be doing an utter disservice to the other roles - not because they wouldn't be able to handle it, but because it would not be a challenge in the slightest. There's no situation in the game currently that requires for team members to be good at all three exceptional survival, exceptional damage, and exceptional support, and if there was, there wouldn't even be the passive ability or toggle to support it! Even the stat choices and powers we have available fit into the three roles I just described!
The game mechanics themselves are all built around this traditional trinity - enemies cannot target more than a specific group of enemies at a time, not without significant telegraphing, otherwise the battle is just unmitigated chaos that cannot be beaten reliably. Gravitar is probably the only fight that defies this rule even slightly, with randomly-targeted AoEs. Even then, she still will occasionally use those powerful attacks against her aggroed target, and even then people prefer to run the rampage with mostly DPS-role characters. Because her damage output is nothing compared to most cosmics now.
So basically, roles are the nature of this game, right down to how enemy-attacks are calculated and how all the powers in the game were designed. Hybrids are specifically designed to provide baseline survivability, damage, and power to all builds for soloing content, and will always and forever be outperformed in team situations that require the build to perform its role.
Build the hero you want! (As long as you're willing to put all your eggs into a single role's basket...)
Luckily, since they chose to make cosmics open world bosses, you can tell those people to get ***ed, throw them on ignore, and there's nothing they can really do about it. Provided that you're aware of the mechanics of the fight, know that they're just looking for someone to blame for the overall failure, and that little hybrid icon is an easy thing to point the finger at and whine about.
Personally, I'd like to see them make the role selection nothing more than a cosmetic feature, serving as a declaration of "I'm willing to perform this role." Demolish role bonuses/penalties completely, make the only passive slot a balanced slot. If tanks aren't putting out enough threat this way, buff challenge's threat generation. If healers aren't healing for enough, buff the healing power of relevant passives and forms.
Of course, imo, vast majority of mobs and enemies (if not all of them), could use a rebalance anyways.
I personally am opposed to the idea of loss of role bonuses/penalties. Consider that most people who show up to cosmics as hybrids are 'semi-tanks', basically loosely-built 'DPS' style characters that instead use a defensive passive to facilitate easier combat inside alerts, solo missions, or other situations. That is the whole reason they're running in hybrid, because they can't run their build in a DPS role without losing their passive, despite the fact that, even without their defenses and any passive, they still would technically do more damage than they do in hybrid.
The removal of role wouldn't make their build any better at handling cosmic content - they'd still do drastically less damage than people using a DPS passive, and they wouldn't have the armoring, dodge, or threat advantages required to actually survive as a tank, despite their Defense passive. If anything, the loss of role would likely exacerbate the problems we're already seeing, and simply make it more confusing for new players trying to figure out how to build for a role.
My personal suggestion for fixing the problem would be to actually make the build-selecting system useful with a set of changes that would basically discourage running hybrid when the player needs to:
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This argument of Champions is not hybrid friendly is just plain farcical. Over 99% of the game is hybrid friendly, and can be solo'd without breaking a sweat. Team based content requires you being a team player, and achieving certain goals and criteria, and thinking you are a special snowflake that is some how more knowledgeable than the people that have spent a lot of time figuring every nuance out of the encounters in this game (especially the provably wrong bold claim that your hybrid out performs DPS) is just not good attitude to have in team based content.
You've got plenty of solo content. Time to stop trying to pass around that falsity that this game isn't solo friendly.
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Most cosmics also aren't attacking the DPS constantly either, which means the situations where those fragile DPS do need to block are pretty sparse. This is offset by the much greater volume of time spent actually attacking the boss, as well as those rare times where you do need to pump out a ton of damage. This is exactly where the DPS contribute most and a hybrid would contribute significantly less.
Eidolon is a great example of a cosmic where a hybrid wouldn't fit in well at all, including the tight time windows required to destroy crystals, his death-pillars and shattering-rain attacks (both of which are impossible to block or resist, and basically don't care what role you're in because you'll die if you get hit by them), and his basic attack pattern that consists of only single-target attacks and cones around the tank. The entirety of attacks dealt to DPS during this fight are ones that demand dodging or blocking, and if successfully dealt with, never deal fatal damage against even the most fragile heroes.
As for tanks struggling to survive under current content with the loss of role bonuses, that's not really a problem. There's really only a few things tuned for the currently over-the-top survivability gap between tanks and dps. Their numbers can be knocked down a bit and all is well.
If anything, I'd say the removal of role bonuses makes things less confusing, even if only by a tiny amount. For one, the game leads new players to believe that hybrids can tank well enough, and for the earlier, easier stuff they usually can. While I'll agree that it's not hard to for them to learn that they should use the tank role for its bonuses, that's not even the part which might confuse them. The stuff that's actually confusing for aspiring tanks include the importance of proper specialization selections, putting Challenge on the right powers, selecting solid defensive abilities, and which gear/mods/etc they should plan for at 40. In comparison, role selection is as simple as:
"Hey, you should use the tank role for more survivability."
"Oh, okay thanks. Done."
Passives & Slots: If you're trying to say that passives should be offered separately from other power selections, meaning the player can pick an offensive, defensive, and hybrid passive, then switch them around, then I agree. However, there's still the issue of advantage points, since you're pretty much required to rank passives up to properly use them (with the exception of defiance, even if starting with only 1 stack against a strong foe seems...dangerous.) I'd say make them all rank 3 by default and abolish passive ranks. Then again, I'm not a fan of ranks existing in the first place since they collide with more interesting customization and choice, but that's for another topic.
DPS AoPM: With role bonuses abolished, you get exactly that with AoPM, making the self-only version redundant.
Ranged/Melee: I agree completely with the removal of this. It's pretty stupid that it even exists in the first place.
On a few of my toons, I sacrificed a power (such as an AO or AD) to instead have a second passive. I then use builds to swap to AoPM when soloing. This would be my suggestion to folks that do not want to give up on hybrid builds at level 40.
For example, my main is a Sorcery DPS build, who puts out around 3700 DPS (which isn't that high), but has some AoE heals and team rez. When doing QWZ solo, he switches to hybrid role and AoPM, since the added toughness (health and Guardicator specs) help so much.
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So you are free to do as you want, in the end no other players has any actual control over what you do. But that goes both ways. If to many players with that attitude join in on fights which require specialized roles, insisting on using unoptimized builds. That just pushes the people who actually are willing to organize to look at groups of players that do want to do what is needed to actually win the fight.
And that is what this is about. Some of the players that were organizing the Eidolion fight said "ok but if to many hybrids start joining this fight, and we start failing the damage checks because of that, I won't publicly invite people anymore", and now some of the hybrid proponents are making a big issue out of that.
The first few months the Eidolon fight was almost exclusively completed with private runs, by only inviting people in some private channels, exactly for the reason of not trusting random players to do what is needed. I am glad it's now more public, but that doesn't suddenly mean the requirements have changed.
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As for the amount of work involved, usually changing values is among the easiest thing there is. This in particular would just mean zeroing out the role bonuses/penalties and adjusting the numbers for the handful of cosmics. Even mediocre-geared tanks completely overpower just about everything else.
And then you go off and solo something that would be very hard in a pure role. All in one build.
Plus, if you're playing a FF, you can change roles. When you think about it, role changing is effectively a 15th power. Why aren't you taking advantage of it?
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So much this.
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Thing is, a lot of that secondary function takes up all the space when I make builds, so there's no room left to really try and diversify with a second passive. This is what I'm talking about with the request for just having a pre-relegated selection of 'passive' slots in a player's build that can be used for multiple passives or toggles. I will say, though, this is why I select my passive absolute last when I make builds, because this allows for fast switching-out in case I do need to fulfill another role.
Even then I'm not sure if that would really solve the heart of the problem, because a lot of what defines whether you excel or don't in a role is if your stats fit. This is also what I'm focusing on with hybrid AoPM builds that focus on their own stats, because they usually don't take presence - which is what's required to buff ally stats higher, and extra AoPM's do take up buff-slot space that other stronger primal auras could possibly stack with.
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The only fights where it's not are ones with effective DPS checks and those are Dino and Eidolon.
Even if you play a Hybrid in your day-to-day, for just Dino+Eidolon, it's not a big deal to swap to either Tank role and help the Main Tank soak damage or swap to a DPS role and do a lot more damage yourself.
It doesn't cost globals, power slots, change in playstyle, or anything of the sort. It's a small ask that is being totally blown out of proportion. Chill out.
Let's make it clear that many of the Main Tanks, CCers, Offtanks, Healers, Debuffers, and DPS show up with Merc gear+r5s and do a great job.
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Also, by setting role bonus to 0, I assume that means also setting the stat bonuses the same on all roles. Because without that, hybrid role is going to be hugely OP. What do you mean with tanks exactly (passive, role, stats, specs, threat stuff, etc)? Or with overpower (not dying, efficiency, etc)?
Restricting to role. For solo content, hybrid role is already far better than tank role. Since you do higher damage in hybrid, and the small loss in health and resistance, is easily made up by the heal bonus.
It's funny how people through the years keep being surprised that this is a trinity game. That said, hybrids can be useful in cosmic content. However, you need to be an actual hybrid, actually performing multiple roles with some level of relevance. If you have a defensive passive and you aren't in the line of fire then you aren't being a hybrid - you're just being dps.
On the other hand if you're Pantagruel's Life Drain build that puts out okay dps while also healing everyone around him, then you're an actual hybrid and could be considered an asset. For Cosmic fights, DPS/Healer is the only hybrid I've really seen be effective since it's difficult to be relevant as a tank in that fight if you're not actually tanking. It's actually more effective to be dual-spec dps/tank, meaning you have two passives and are built to be able to dps OR tank; in this case you're basically just a dps until the tanks die, at which point you can switch roles and hop into the tanking position if you can grab aggro fast enough. You could basically do the same thing with only a defensive passive, and then just suffer the lower dps while in dps role due to a lack of passive ( it's about 20%-30% less ).
Now, another solution is to just not attend the fights with dps checks, i.e. Dino and Eido. Kiga and Ape don't actually require a strict contingent of dps to get the job done. You'll still be able to get your tokens and other drops, just not as fast as you would if you were willing to specialize. To mitigate this you could make a second, specialized dps character, and bring them to dino and eido. You would basically be getting lewt on two toons at half speed each.
Hybrids can be pretty great in TA, because you can off tank for some fights, and throw in some extra damage output for others where an offtank isn't needed. You can likely also maintank, just get a second offensive primary with some threat mods on it, since the fights in there aren't quite as demanding on survival as cosmics are.
Then we have the recent Snake Gulch event where your hybrid character would do pretty well. Not while attacking the boss mind you, but while defending the towers. There a mix of toughness and damage output can be very helpful. I'm hoping that future content uses this type of design more often as it's definitely the kind that I prefer over straight "One big boss" content.
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It's funny how people through the years keep being surprised that this is a trinity game. That said, hybrids can be useful in cosmic content. However, you need to be an actual hybrid, actually performing multiple roles with some level of relevance. If you have a defensive passive and you aren't in the line of fire then you aren't being a hybrid - you're just being dps.
Hybrid, actually.
On the other hand if you're Pantagruel's Life Drain build that puts out okay dps while also healing everyone around him, then you're an actual hybrid and could be considered an asset. For Cosmic fights, DPS/Healer is the only hybrid I've really seen be effective since it's difficult to be relevant as a tank in that fight if you're not actually tanking. It's actually more effective to be dual-spec dps/tank, meaning you have two passives and are built to be able to dps OR tank; in this case you're basically just a dps until the tanks die, at which point you can switch roles and hop into the tanking position if you can grab aggro fast enough. You could basically do the same thing with only a defensive passive, and then just suffer the lower dps while in dps role due to a lack of passive ( it's about 20%-30% less ).
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Now, another solution is to just not attend the fights with dps checks, i.e. Dino and Eido. Kiga and Ape don't actually require a strict contingent of dps to get the job done. You'll still be able to get your tokens and other drops, just not as fast as you would if you were willing to specialize. To mitigate this you could make a second, specialized dps character, and bring them to dino and eido. You would basically be getting lewt on two toons at half speed each.
Also there's TA.
Hybrids can be pretty great in TA, because you can off tank for some fights, and throw in some extra damage output for others where an offtank isn't needed. You can likely also maintank, just get a second offensive primary with some threat mods on it, since the fights in there aren't quite as demanding on survival as cosmics are.
A bright horizon!
Then we have the recent Snake Gulch event where your hybrid character would do pretty well. Not while attacking the boss mind you, but while defending the towers. There a mix of toughness and damage output can be very helpful. I'm hoping that future content uses this type of design more often as it's definitely the kind that I prefer over straight "One big boss" content.
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
It's funny how people through the years keep being surprised that this is a trinity game. That said, hybrids can be useful in cosmic content. However, you need to be an actual hybrid, actually performing multiple roles with some level of relevance. If you have a defensive passive and you aren't in the line of fire then you aren't being a hybrid - you're just being dps.
Hybrid, actually.
On the other hand if you're Pantagruel's Life Drain build that puts out okay dps while also healing everyone around him, then you're an actual hybrid and could be considered an asset. For Cosmic fights, DPS/Healer is the only hybrid I've really seen be effective since it's difficult to be relevant as a tank in that fight if you're not actually tanking. It's actually more effective to be dual-spec dps/tank, meaning you have two passives and are built to be able to dps OR tank; in this case you're basically just a dps until the tanks die, at which point you can switch roles and hop into the tanking position if you can grab aggro fast enough. You could basically do the same thing with only a defensive passive, and then just suffer the lower dps while in dps role due to a lack of passive ( it's about 20%-30% less ).
Selective participation!
Now, another solution is to just not attend the fights with dps checks, i.e. Dino and Eido. Kiga and Ape don't actually require a strict contingent of dps to get the job done. You'll still be able to get your tokens and other drops, just not as fast as you would if you were willing to specialize. To mitigate this you could make a second, specialized dps character, and bring them to dino and eido. You would basically be getting lewt on two toons at half speed each.
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Now, it's possible for a mission to have roles that are best filled by a hybrid. That generally means 'requires damage, but also requires the ability to survive without support from healers or tanks'. If Mechanon in Snake Gulch had twelve towers instead of three, with reduced spawns on each of them, there's no way you'd be using a tank/healer/dps setup on each tower -- you'd use durable dps, such as a hybrid. I have no objection to creating that sort of content.
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It's funny how people through the years keep being surprised that this is a trinity game. That said, hybrids can be useful in cosmic content. However, you need to be an actual hybrid, actually performing multiple roles with some level of relevance. If you have a defensive passive and you aren't in the line of fire then you aren't being a hybrid - you're just being dps.
Hybrid, actually.
On the other hand if you're Pantagruel's Life Drain build that puts out okay dps while also healing everyone around him, then you're an actual hybrid and could be considered an asset. For Cosmic fights, DPS/Healer is the only hybrid I've really seen be effective since it's difficult to be relevant as a tank in that fight if you're not actually tanking. It's actually more effective to be dual-spec dps/tank, meaning you have two passives and are built to be able to dps OR tank; in this case you're basically just a dps until the tanks die, at which point you can switch roles and hop into the tanking position if you can grab aggro fast enough. You could basically do the same thing with only a defensive passive, and then just suffer the lower dps while in dps role due to a lack of passive ( it's about 20%-30% less ).
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Now, another solution is to just not attend the fights with dps checks, i.e. Dino and Eido. Kiga and Ape don't actually require a strict contingent of dps to get the job done. You'll still be able to get your tokens and other drops, just not as fast as you would if you were willing to specialize. To mitigate this you could make a second, specialized dps character, and bring them to dino and eido. You would basically be getting lewt on two toons at half speed each.
Also there's TA.
Hybrids can be pretty great in TA, because you can off tank for some fights, and throw in some extra damage output for others where an offtank isn't needed. You can likely also maintank, just get a second offensive primary with some threat mods on it, since the fights in there aren't quite as demanding on survival as cosmics are.
A bright horizon!
Then we have the recent Snake Gulch event where your hybrid character would do pretty well. Not while attacking the boss mind you, but while defending the towers. There a mix of toughness and damage output can be very helpful. I'm hoping that future content uses this type of design more often as it's definitely the kind that I prefer over straight "One big boss" content.
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
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Take note of the thoughtful stuff about builds and roles (see above), though, and mind the gap between Cosmics/Q Zone and the rest of the game.
That all depends on the difficultly of the content vs the gear of the player. In any mmo, generally when you outgear stuff, you can tank it as a dps or even healer. It's really only a problem if it happens in content intended to challenge endgame players, such as cosmics. In such a case, even with the removal of role bonuses, I can't imagine that a tank using an offensive passive would be perferred over one with the damage reduction from something like Defiance.
That's exactly what I mean.
Sorry, I suppose that was a pretty odd line. What I meant is that even mediocre-geared tanks are suitable for just about everything else besides cosmics. And by mediocre-geared can mean gear and mods specifically, but also specializations, less-than-ideal passives, or stats. Threat is a different story, because the threat difference between tanks and dps in this game is kind of lousy. It's pretty easy for an undergeared tank to lose threat to an overpowered dps which is kind of bad designwise, especially if the tank in question didn't make full use of Challenge on various attacks.
At the moment it's not really something people are trying to do, since it's more trouble than it's worth. But if the damage on cosmics is reduced a bit, it would be a very viable tactic.
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It's funny how people through the years keep being surprised that this is a trinity game. That said, hybrids can be useful in cosmic content. However, you need to be an actual hybrid, actually performing multiple roles with some level of relevance. If you have a defensive passive and you aren't in the line of fire then you aren't being a hybrid - you're just being dps.
Hybrid, actually.
On the other hand if you're Pantagruel's Life Drain build that puts out okay dps while also healing everyone around him, then you're an actual hybrid and could be considered an asset. For Cosmic fights, DPS/Healer is the only hybrid I've really seen be effective since it's difficult to be relevant as a tank in that fight if you're not actually tanking. It's actually more effective to be dual-spec dps/tank, meaning you have two passives and are built to be able to dps OR tank; in this case you're basically just a dps until the tanks die, at which point you can switch roles and hop into the tanking position if you can grab aggro fast enough. You could basically do the same thing with only a defensive passive, and then just suffer the lower dps while in dps role due to a lack of passive ( it's about 20%-30% less ).
Selective participation!
Now, another solution is to just not attend the fights with dps checks, i.e. Dino and Eido. Kiga and Ape don't actually require a strict contingent of dps to get the job done. You'll still be able to get your tokens and other drops, just not as fast as you would if you were willing to specialize. To mitigate this you could make a second, specialized dps character, and bring them to dino and eido. You would basically be getting lewt on two toons at half speed each.
Also there's TA.
Hybrids can be pretty great in TA, because you can off tank for some fights, and throw in some extra damage output for others where an offtank isn't needed. You can likely also maintank, just get a second offensive primary with some threat mods on it, since the fights in there aren't quite as demanding on survival as cosmics are.
A bright horizon!
Then we have the recent Snake Gulch event where your hybrid character would do pretty well. Not while attacking the boss mind you, but while defending the towers. There a mix of toughness and damage output can be very helpful. I'm hoping that future content uses this type of design more often as it's definitely the kind that I prefer over straight "One big boss" content.
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
It's funny how people through the years keep being surprised that this is a trinity game. That said, hybrids can be useful in cosmic content. However, you need to be an actual hybrid, actually performing multiple roles with some level of relevance. If you have a defensive passive and you aren't in the line of fire then you aren't being a hybrid - you're just being dps.
Hybrid, actually.
On the other hand if you're Pantagruel's Life Drain build that puts out okay dps while also healing everyone around him, then you're an actual hybrid and could be considered an asset. For Cosmic fights, DPS/Healer is the only hybrid I've really seen be effective since it's difficult to be relevant as a tank in that fight if you're not actually tanking. It's actually more effective to be dual-spec dps/tank, meaning you have two passives and are built to be able to dps OR tank; in this case you're basically just a dps until the tanks die, at which point you can switch roles and hop into the tanking position if you can grab aggro fast enough. You could basically do the same thing with only a defensive passive, and then just suffer the lower dps while in dps role due to a lack of passive ( it's about 20%-30% less ).
Selective participation!
Now, another solution is to just not attend the fights with dps checks, i.e. Dino and Eido. Kiga and Ape don't actually require a strict contingent of dps to get the job done. You'll still be able to get your tokens and other drops, just not as fast as you would if you were willing to specialize. To mitigate this you could make a second, specialized dps character, and bring them to dino and eido. You would basically be getting lewt on two toons at half speed each.
Also there's TA.
Hybrids can be pretty great in TA, because you can off tank for some fights, and throw in some extra damage output for others where an offtank isn't needed. You can likely also maintank, just get a second offensive primary with some threat mods on it, since the fights in there aren't quite as demanding on survival as cosmics are.
A bright horizon!
Then we have the recent Snake Gulch event where your hybrid character would do pretty well. Not while attacking the boss mind you, but while defending the towers. There a mix of toughness and damage output can be very helpful. I'm hoping that future content uses this type of design more often as it's definitely the kind that I prefer over straight "One big boss" content.
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
It's funny how people through the years keep being surprised that this is a trinity game. That said, hybrids can be useful in cosmic content. However, you need to be an actual hybrid, actually performing multiple roles with some level of relevance. If you have a defensive passive and you aren't in the line of fire then you aren't being a hybrid - you're just being dps.
Hybrid, actually.
On the other hand if you're Pantagruel's Life Drain build that puts out okay dps while also healing everyone around him, then you're an actual hybrid and could be considered an asset. For Cosmic fights, DPS/Healer is the only hybrid I've really seen be effective since it's difficult to be relevant as a tank in that fight if you're not actually tanking. It's actually more effective to be dual-spec dps/tank, meaning you have two passives and are built to be able to dps OR tank; in this case you're basically just a dps until the tanks die, at which point you can switch roles and hop into the tanking position if you can grab aggro fast enough. You could basically do the same thing with only a defensive passive, and then just suffer the lower dps while in dps role due to a lack of passive ( it's about 20%-30% less ).
Selective participation!
Now, another solution is to just not attend the fights with dps checks, i.e. Dino and Eido. Kiga and Ape don't actually require a strict contingent of dps to get the job done. You'll still be able to get your tokens and other drops, just not as fast as you would if you were willing to specialize. To mitigate this you could make a second, specialized dps character, and bring them to dino and eido. You would basically be getting lewt on two toons at half speed each.
Also there's TA.
Hybrids can be pretty great in TA, because you can off tank for some fights, and throw in some extra damage output for others where an offtank isn't needed. You can likely also maintank, just get a second offensive primary with some threat mods on it, since the fights in there aren't quite as demanding on survival as cosmics are.
A bright horizon!
Then we have the recent Snake Gulch event where your hybrid character would do pretty well. Not while attacking the boss mind you, but while defending the towers. There a mix of toughness and damage output can be very helpful. I'm hoping that future content uses this type of design more often as it's definitely the kind that I prefer over straight "One big boss" content.
My super cool CC build and how to use it.