Arcane coffer gives me just 1 white silly pearl worth 100 ref. points...

tholther · January 2014

After all the trouble -and time- to forge a silver key to open the arcane coffer after completing the Dread Spire I got that petyfull reward of a white pearl worth 100 refinements points... is this intended? I mean that can't be true. I refuse to think this is a current reward in an arcane coffer. Is this a bug or something? Because if not what's the point of so much effort? It's not worth, really.
Anyone else has had such a silly reward?

beckylunatic · January 2014

http://neverwinter.gamepedia.com/Silver_Gauntlet

It's in the loot table.

kolbe11 · January 2014

It's a freebee and YES, it is intended.

The goal is to get the Adamantine Gauntlet. There you will find lowest rewards: R3 Enchants & Peridots or highest rewards: Eye of Lathander & Aquamarine (1500RP).

Keep working towards the Adamantine Gauntlet.

tornnomar · January 2014

Wait till you get nothing but Rank 3 enchants for a week straight!

tholther · January 2014

I see that in the 'loot table' says: 2 white pearls. And I got only 1... Even so this kind of rewards sucks a lot at this level. This isn't the right reward for a lvl 60. This is rather frustrating and therefore should be changed.

sockmunkey · January 2014

I rolled the dice and got a 1. Please remove all 1's from all dice

imsmithy · January 2014

Wait till you start to forge Adamantine Gauntlets and seem to get either two Peridots or two rank 4 enchantments every time xD

tholther · January 2014

Well, at least Peridots give 500 ref. points...

trapublican · January 2014

tholther wrote: »

Well, at least Peridots give 500 ref. points...

And can't crit for whatever reason, I'd almost prefer the r4 enchants and just hope i get lucky and they get a 100% crit.

radiick507 · January 2014

I had better rewards when I had the lower tier Gauntlets, since i have had the Adamantine, I have received nothing but the lower 2 of the "%" of the rewards.

Knowing what I know now, I would never have upgraded my gauntlets in the first place. I am am talking about at least a good 15 to 20 times experience opening chests with the Adamantine. Would love to know if anyone has ever received any of the first 2 tier of the rewards associated with it?

charononus · January 2014

radiick507 wrote: »

I had better rewards when I had the lower tier Gauntlets, since i have had the Adamantine, I have received nothing but the lower 2 of the "%" of the rewards.

Knowing what I know now, I would never have upgraded my gauntlets in the first place. I am am talking about at least a good 15 to 20 times experience opening chests with the Adamantine. Would love to know if anyone has ever received any of the first 2 tier of the rewards associated with it?

Guildie of mine has pulled the artifact twice this week with it. We all hate him now. =P

imsmithy · January 2014

radiick507 wrote: »

I had better rewards when I had the lower tier Gauntlets, since i have had the Adamantine, I have received nothing but the lower 2 of the "%" of the rewards.

Knowing what I know now, I would never have upgraded my gauntlets in the first place. I am am talking about at least a good 15 to 20 times experience opening chests with the Adamantine. Would love to know if anyone has ever received any of the first 2 tier of the rewards associated with it?

A few people have posted on here who won the Artifact but I'd guess it's super rare , the best I ever got was one blue mark of potency ( I think ) other than that I always seem to get peridots or enchantments lol

radiick507 · January 2014

Wow! I have done the or any Dungeon in Dread Ring every single evening since I have had access to the Adamantine Gauntlet, and get nothing worth while as a result. Some are lucky and some are not! I know where I fall in that area.........I guess the only good thing is that their is not cost (besides the initial one) to forge the gauntlet once per day.........

syka08 · January 2014

Peridots everywhere for me and my adamantine gloves @_@. I've never seen much else.

cdnbison · January 2014

I got an Aquamarine once.

Once.

I'm 3 days short of getting my last boon.

What's that definition of insanity - doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result? Yeah, I think that applies here. :-p

melodywhr · January 2014

in the sharandar mini dungeons, there wasn't the extra coffer with the extra drop. so now in dread ring, you have the arcane coffers that have the (rare) possibility of dropping an artifact or other free enchants or refinement stones. sounds generous to me.

beckylunatic · January 2014

melodywhr wrote: »

in the sharandar mini dungeons, there wasn't the extra coffer with the extra drop. so now in dread ring, you have the arcane coffers that have the (rare) possibility of dropping an artifact or other free enchants or refinement stones. sounds generous to me.

Well... it's not 100% "free" loot considering that the player pays 35k AD to fully upgrade the gauntlets. Getting mostly the same stuff you can find in skill nodes could be a bit souring.

melodywhr · January 2014

beckylunatic wrote: »

Well... it's not 100% "free" loot considering that the player pays 35k AD to fully upgrade the gauntlets. Getting mostly the same stuff you can find in skill nodes could be a bit souring.

yep it's a one time charge and at level 60 it's not hard to come up with 35k AD. which means after you've paid your dues, you can continually get loot from the arcane coffer. if that's still not a great deal for you, you can always bypass that part of the campaign. it's not required.

beckylunatic · January 2014

Don't get me wrong. I'm working on the upgrades (started campaign a bit later than most). But I am viewing it as progression towards "gambling for better stuff", rather than "will be consistently rewarding".

tholther · January 2014

I suppose that for some people like the community moderator 35k AD is pinuts but for me as a new player 35k AD is a lot. So easy is not to get. Besides that, the fact that you have to FORGE a key to be able to open a so called ARCANE Coffer makes you expect something better than a pathetic white pearl worth 100 refinement points.

charononus · January 2014

tholther wrote: »

I suppose that for some people like the community moderator 35k AD is pinuts but for me as a new player 35k AD is a lot. So easy is not to get. Besides that, the fact that you have to FORGE a key to be able to open a so called ARCANE Coffer makes you expect something better than a pathetic white pearl worth 100 refinement points.

There is a guide here on the forums to making ad
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?567591-Trace-s-Guide-to-AD-Creation-and-Wealth-Building&highlight=trace

I suggest you read thru and look at some ideas. Just about anything can net you ad, it's just a matter of figuring out what works for you.

cdnbison · January 2014

I'm not complaining too loudly. It'd be nice if I could do a bit better on that loot table, but anything I've gotten from the bonus chest has been put to use (usually feeding an enchant or artifact as rp). Every little bit helps....

mehguy138 · January 2014

melodywhr wrote: »

if that's still not a great deal for you, you can always bypass that part of the campaign. it's not required.

Players see the loot table, realize that they've got a chance to get some pretty sweet items, pay, forge and get skillnode drop all the way. They feel scummed. If there was a number that would show you a chance to get them, like 1% for everything, 99% for peridot - I'd be ok with it.

ryugasirius · January 2014

mehguy138 wrote: »

Players see the loot table, realize that they've got a chance to get some pretty sweet items, pay, forge and get skillnode drop all the way. They feel scummed. If there was a number that would show you a chance to get them, like 1% for everything, 99% for peridot - I'd be ok with it.

^this

Unless odds are explicited, it's pretty much bordering a scam.

melodywhr · January 2014

tholther wrote: »

I suppose that for some people like the community moderator 35k AD is pinuts but for me as a new player 35k AD is a lot. So easy is not to get. Besides that, the fact that you have to FORGE a key to be able to open a so called ARCANE Coffer makes you expect something better than a pathetic white pearl worth 100 refinement points.

i assure you that being a community moderator has nothing to do with my AD income. just by invoking, you get free rough AD and each day you can refine 24k AD. considering the cost to upgrade to the adamantine isn't all at once, you have plenty of time to earn the AD before you have to spend it. and again, this is not a required part of the game. you can bypass it if it doesn't seem like a value to you. just like you don't have to buy keys to open lockboxes.

frishter · January 2014

Its actually 45k AD. I wouldn't really call it generous, after all of the boons are done, I'm not sure it's worth doing the solo dungeon still. With my 6 toons, I've gone through 110-120 equivalent days without getting 1 artifact. Sure some people get lucky, but it's not really that good in the first place. There's nothing stopping you from ressing the person manually and they still get res sickness so it's use is very situation compared to every other artifact that can be used a lot more. Even then because there's no small cooldown/animation for ressing, it can be easy for others to not pay attention and to die (soulforged has the problem of dying to the same attack which also needs a 1-2 second cooldown or something with an animation). I've managed to get a few marks/aquamarines which was fairly nice, still I'm unsure if it was worth spending 270k total AD. It's basically a slightly better skill node that you had to pay for.

melodywhr · January 2014

mehguy138 wrote: »

Players see the loot table, realize that they've got a chance to get some pretty sweet items, pay, forge and get skillnode drop all the way. They feel scummed. If there was a number that would show you a chance to get them, like 1% for everything, 99% for peridot - I'd be ok with it.

but a skill node is the exact same gamble because if you don't buy a skill kit, you are only limited to open one kind for free and even then, you're not guaranteed specific loot out of that node.

no one is forcing you to pay real money or in-game currency here. if you don't want to participate, don't. if you participate and then feel cheated, who is to blame here?

ryugasirius · January 2014

melodywhr wrote: »

if you participate and then feel cheated, who is to blame here?

The choice of wording. You are enticed to believe you have decent chances of getting i.e. a blue Mark of Potency (only the artifact is actually marked as "rare", thus by the looks of the tooltip you have 1 chance out of 8 to get everything else), but you don't get anywhere near that. Dividing items into tiers (common, uncommon, rare, very rare) and expliciting odds would be far more honest...

aulduron · January 2014

Today I got a shard of Flaming Enchantment.

charononus · January 2014

ryugasirius wrote: »

The choice of wording. You are enticed to believe you have decent chances of getting i.e. a blue Mark of Potency (only the artifact is actually marked as "rare", thus by the looks of the tooltip you have 1 chance out of 8 to get everything else), but you don't get anywhere near that. Dividing items into tiers (common, uncommon, rare, very rare) and expliciting odds would be far more honest...

It's a rare drop in an mmo. Just from looking at it, I'd assume the drop rate would at highest be 0.5% at most. That's just from mmo experience at a guess.

beckylunatic · January 2014

melodywhr wrote: »

but a skill node is the exact same gamble because if you don't buy a skill kit, you are only limited to open one kind for free and even then, you're not guaranteed specific loot out of that node.

I have a gazillion skill kits as a byproduct of using leadership to farm ADs. I have skill kits coming out of my ears. I sort of vaguely recall the days when I spent nearly all my gold on buying skill kits for node farming, but... yeah, not anymore. I dump extras in the guild bank for people starting out.

People basically know they're not going to get anything fabtabulous out of skill nodes, so that occasional blue mark drop is a welcome surprise. People are strongly hoping to get the really good stuff from putting the effort and resources towards upgrading their gauntlets, so when it rewards you with peridots upon peridots, the sense that your investment was wasted is understandable.

Like I said, I am going into this with it firmly entrenched that I'm paying for a chance to gamble at better loot. I can afford it. People who accelerated it buying relics could afford it even more than I can. But I get where others are coming from, and I'm not going to treat their disappointment dismissively.

Arcane coffer gives me just 1 white silly pearl worth 100 ref. points...

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