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silveralan
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 22 Arc User
It's a ridiculous idea that a wipe would be better than rollback.
Yes, we've seen the decreasing price of items in AH in the past few day.
However, the reason for that is not the exploit and bugs, but the population of people who hit lv60 is increasing quickly.
We can see that T2 items still stay at a high price level comparing to T1 items.
THAT MEANS, THE ECONOMY REMAINS SOME KIND OF NORMAL UNTIL TODAY'S ISSUE.
And seriously, there is nearly no bug in T1 dungeons.
That's why I can't understand why some people want a wipe.
For fair? I don't think so.
You have two reasons asking for a wipe.
Firstly, you want a wipe because a small number of people who used bug make you feel awful, since you play a common way.
Secondly, those who sit on millions with their entering the game before you have more advantages than you.
The first reason is acceptable and looks so righteous. But if you ask for a wipe only for this, that would looks like you want to reset the world because some of them cheats in their lives.
The second reason is just about selfish and more ridiculous. You want to reset the world because ppl born before you.
PS:
I am curious that, why you are so sure that they can't fix the problem?
Only bad logic could be found between wipe and economy recovery.
And yes, malice.
Yes, we've seen the decreasing price of items in AH in the past few day.
However, the reason for that is not the exploit and bugs, but the population of people who hit lv60 is increasing quickly.
We can see that T2 items still stay at a high price level comparing to T1 items.
THAT MEANS, THE ECONOMY REMAINS SOME KIND OF NORMAL UNTIL TODAY'S ISSUE.
And seriously, there is nearly no bug in T1 dungeons.
That's why I can't understand why some people want a wipe.
For fair? I don't think so.
You have two reasons asking for a wipe.
Firstly, you want a wipe because a small number of people who used bug make you feel awful, since you play a common way.
Secondly, those who sit on millions with their entering the game before you have more advantages than you.
The first reason is acceptable and looks so righteous. But if you ask for a wipe only for this, that would looks like you want to reset the world because some of them cheats in their lives.
The second reason is just about selfish and more ridiculous. You want to reset the world because ppl born before you.
PS:
I am curious that, why you are so sure that they can't fix the problem?
Only bad logic could be found between wipe and economy recovery.
And yes, malice.
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And all those "the game is dead people" - I believe noone is going to miss you - there is the door...
I say this because of different reasons:
1) probably the full investigation of seeing ALL the zen transactions directly between user and PWE that were made SOLELY for Neverwinter (remember PWE has lots of games, not just this one), would be too difficult/long to do in a "feasable" time, and this means a couple of days at max. They can't really leave the servers up knowing that there would be a wipe "eventually" in a week or two, right? I mean they could, but how many would play, honestly?
2) They risk to <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> off more people than the ones who are currently pissed. Remember they said there would be no character wipes. If they wiped, the credibility of Cryptic's staff would drop to the bottom of the ocean and it could damage their image potentially forever.
3) Wipe once? Wipe twice? Wipe three times? When does it end? As long as it's tagged "open beta" they could wipe over and over and over any time an exploit infects the economy. And once it launches? They can no longer wipe after launch? From a formal point of view it's understandable, but from a substantial point of view it changes nothing and would just be the same exact problem represented again.
My suggestions to deal with the problem would be the following: (assuming the bugs/exploits are fixed as we type)
1) A rollback (as short at possible, max 2 days) to a time before the AH went "nuts"
2) A form of "apology/compensation" to founders like a Zen discount for a limited period of time.
3) Introduce new content/gear/companions/vanity for Zen/AD, whatever that trivializes whatever has been recently bought and give AD a value again in due time.
All in all, I think people who are in good faith should not panic, as all this mess could be much less problematic than it sounds.
For those who are not in good faith and are just using this as an excuse to obtain a refound (knowing that a wipe won't happen), because they feel that the dollars/euros spent on the game were not really worth it yeah, well.. they should have put a restraint on their impatience sooner and tried the game freely for a longer period of time before shelling out the cash.
They should shell this "shard", and launch the new class/races on a new shard quickly. Its the only way to safe face, once they fix the exploits in the T1 and AH. Respones in red to your bad ideas.
Wipe the f'n servers.
Can't be bothered to read the rest of your post because you can't be bothered to type full words.
DERP L2READ KID....
Update 12PM Pacific: We are still investigating the situation. There is a high likelihood that we will be performing character-specific rollbacks on any accounts that were found to be utilizing the exploit. Additionally, we are investigating the extent of what can additional steps can be taken to remove any illegitimately obtained Astral Diamonds that have entered into the economy. We are also investigating the possibility of a shard-wide rollback.
YOU CAN HAZ EXPLOIT NO MOAR KID STOP EXCUSE MAKE
so says another exploiter. F off kid!
No Roll Backs!
No Bans!
Fix what needs to be fixed and move forward! That's it! Let it go people, play and enjoy the game and stop obsessing about what someone else may have done or may have gotten that you have not!
I'm easy.... I'm fine if they wipe and I'm fine if they don't as long as they do react in some meaningful way towards the cheaters and fix the economy. The game will lose the most players imo if they allow this to slide with no consequence.
Wipe away for the cheaters, and heck, I wouldn't even mind a global wipe so long as it doesn't wipe Foundry content and gives everyone back any virtual money they paid real money for.
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Put it back online.
Shut up exploiter and wipe now
A roll back is all that's needed, back to before this all got out of hand with the AH and they'll sort everything else out.
You know nothing about me and your childish behavior is evidence of some immaturity. Like many people, I've invested a lot of time and real money into the game, evidenced by my Founder's purchase. People are discussing an issue and providing opinions, yet you feel the need to name call and curse. Name calling is silly and shows lack of ability to discuss in a civilized manner.
Great job, all of you.
You are not allowed to call people Exploiters. It is against the Forum Rules! You should apologize and edit your post.