Lesson learned. Devs are telling us to go in a corner and play with our balls by ourselves. Just bring a group to watch because it's more rewarding that way.
A lesson everyone should have learned from their high school gym teacher, anyway.
Because nothing says "fun, relaxing summer" quite like doing the same thing 300 times and playing lotto tickets!
nothing says "nice, relaxing summer" like bringing pvp to the summerfest... le sigh. Oh well... @ least everyone that competes in THIS game gets SOME rewards! @ least it's not a total waste of 10 mins...
We just did a volley party with 16 ticket-balls total, though the first 5 really didn't count as we only got 9 volleys from them as we had no idea what we were doing. However, the next 11 balls we did the corner trick and that netted us a total of 358 volleys... for a grand total of 367 volleys.
From those volleys I received a total of 44 copper tickets, 8 silver tickets, and 0 mithril tickets. A couple people in our volley group did get a single mithril ticket, however.
Well, I guess I am 5% of the way to my fashion outfit!
The entire event only lasts 21 days...so you'd have to repeat that performance for all but the last two days...and that doesn't get you a sahha ball or do anything for any of your alts
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Yea, tell me about it... at least I had really only planned to farm this event with Solandra anyways.
I hope I can get the outfit, but I am really wondering if that is possible if we can only get 1 ticket-ball a day without paying 100 Zen for more... we can only get 1 a day from now on right? For some reason I had three today, it seems the first quest gave me both a ticket and the materials to make a ball, and then the repeatable quest gave me the choice of materials or a ticket, which I played a match and took the ticket.
If that repeatable quest is the only way to get a free ticket-ball, and there is no other way to get the components, and they don't increase the drop-rate of copper tickets... I don't see how I will get the fashion items at all!
its not like its affecting them, and its not an exploit at all...
when you GATE the legendary stuff through 2 RNG DOORS , ofc this should be allowed...
once u have to get the mithrial and then you have a chance for a legendary... so we are goin' to loose anyway...
And this is why I am just invoking for the summer event. I wonder if anyone has calculated the odds of winning? My guess is that the chance is all but infinitesimal.
its not like its affecting them, and its not an exploit at all...
when you GATE the legendary stuff through 2 RNG DOORS , ofc this should be allowed...
once u have to get the mithrial and then you have a chance for a legendary... so we are goin' to loose anyway...
And this is why I am just invoking for the summer event. I wonder if anyone has calculated the odds of winning? My guess is that the chance is all but infinitesimal.
The worst part about it is that there isn't much in the way of lower tier rewards and it's possible to have the balls fail and give a fraction of what they should. It's like a lockbox that can give 1/5 of what it's supposed to if you don't open it properly and even if you do open it properly it's giving 1/5 of what most lockboxes give.
@asterdahl - thank you for the response. Your activity on this thread is much appreciated - the sahha stuff is confusing a lot of people, so your clarifications and communication here is really awesome, so thanks again.
can someone confirm, that the 3 free sahaballs were only on day one? i only got the quest for 1 ball today (flowers that got turned into craftingmats for one ball, no voucher or mats for 2 balls, like yesterday)
Directions on this event are painfully unclear. I picked up the quest for the daily and received nothing, flax was not able to be interacted with on one character and no free ball on another. At this point I suspect they have tried to add as many layers as possible to avoid any kind of botting whatsoever at the expense of players. I really hope they don't take the winter festival in this direction. I thought the whole idea of these was to get players to log in for something fun and possibly buy a bit more in the zen shop. The way this event has gone so far it actually has had the reverse effect for me, I just feel like logging out. Such a shame to see the devs work negatively impacted by the convoluted mess they've thrown in front of just picking up a simple daily. Back to influence
is pretty easy to get the 300volleys tier but it wont give you the mitral ticket most of the times, even silver drops at really low rates... this more the 0.00000001% chance to get the mount is like grinding for nothing
if the game was faster (3 or 5 min), and the ball locked in a indor match (no outbound, plus and the prize comming from playing the game would be much better...
I will only get my warboar for my 2 new toons... Good luck everyone
FWIW, I spent 7 mithril tickets and got only the consolation prize (5 silver tickets I think). I presume that the chance is pretty infinitesimal. I'm saving the rest of my silver and mithril tickets to see if the devs listen and actually *do* something in a timely manner. I'd prefer to just trade higher-level tickets for lower-level ones.
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Directions on this event are painfully unclear. I picked up the quest for the daily and received nothing, flax was not able to be interacted with on one character and no free ball on another. At this point I suspect they have tried to add as many layers as possible to avoid any kind of botting whatsoever at the expense of players. I really hope they don't take the winter festival in this direction. I thought the whole idea of these was to get players to log in for something fun and possibly buy a bit more in the zen shop. The way this event has gone so far it actually has had the reverse effect for me, I just feel like logging out. Such a shame to see the devs work negatively impacted by the convoluted mess they've thrown in front of just picking up a simple daily. Back to influence
Flax is a competitive resource, I think. If someone has picked a plant recently then no one can pick it again until it resets. Which means you can be running around quite a lot trying to find pickable flax.
And layers/grindy nonsense/annoyance is only ever a botting incentive. It actively makes non-botting players wish they had a bot for it.
I did the white ball grouping. I couldn't use my ticket-ball on the sahha playfield. On pressing a number key for belt slots with the 3 ticket balls in, nothing happend. So we used the white balls, which meanwhile seems disabled.
Rough estimate: It takes 2 min for one ball to vanish, leaving two bronce tickets. 880/2 = 440 min, around 7 hours. White balling is disabled, so need get ticket-balls per day or buy them. Lets buy them. 2 bronce tickets per ball: 440 balls needed. 5 peeps per party. 440/5 = 88 ticket-balls per person needed. 88*100 Zen per Ball = 8800 Zen = 88$, where 10$ = 1000 Zen.
Really @#$%es me off that this issue has been completely ignored.
Par for the course with Cryptic. If anything about this part of the event changes, it is extremely likely that the change won't be made until after it ends. Just look through the last half-dozen or so patch notes and see how many events they've updated and bugfixed *after* they were just held, even the long lasting ones that we pointed out the issues with soon after it went live (or long before that, in the cases where they show up on preview, or these have been longstanding issues). Siege of Neverwinter, for example.
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Really @#$%es me off that this issue has been completely ignored.
Par for the course with Cryptic. If anything about this part of the event changes, it is extremely likely that the change won't be made until after it ends. Just look through the last half-dozen or so patch notes and see how many events they've updated and bugfixed *after* they were just held, even the long lasting ones that we pointed out the issues with soon after it went live (or long before that, in the cases where they show up on preview, or these have been longstanding issues). Siege of Neverwinter, for example.
This isn't silver tickets and enchants/wards, it's just cosmetic items. There was no excuse to have the currency drop rate for copper tickets be so unfathomably unreasonable.
For the record: I was nicely surprised by the socker addition to the event, and think it is a funny design, just lacking a bit of guidance on first visit. All those epic heroes playing socker, hunting chicken, and so on, it's hilarious. And I say so, while I am extraordinary terrible at digital ball sports of any kind. I have been in 10 or something sahha matches. The first was a win, all the rest loose about 1:10.
The event design usually is like this, customer perspective: Get a good reward for a starter to get you on track. You started, you wouldn't want to waste what is already there, so keep going. As the event end draws near, there might open a gap on event currency for you, to be filled from Zen. Usually, you can reach the goals set without Zen, but this requires you to atune yourself to the per day schedule given.
Fair? Fair enough, I'd say. If we are able to estimate what the deal is. This time my estimate is, the sahha event offers rewards for input something 5 times off anything I deem reasonable.
hustin1 wrote: > It's vastly cheaper to just pick them up on the AH.
Last time I looked, the sarong was offered for 1 Mio AD. Any of my characters deem themselves extremely rich whenever they own about 150000 AD. And, however the person making the offer has aquired it on day one of the event, I don't want to support that kind of behavior in entertainment.
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From those volleys I received a total of 44 copper tickets, 8 silver tickets, and 0 mithril tickets. A couple people in our volley group did get a single mithril ticket, however.
Well, I guess I am 5% of the way to my fashion outfit!
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I hope I can get the outfit, but I am really wondering if that is possible if we can only get 1 ticket-ball a day without paying 100 Zen for more... we can only get 1 a day from now on right? For some reason I had three today, it seems the first quest gave me both a ticket and the materials to make a ball, and then the repeatable quest gave me the choice of materials or a ticket, which I played a match and took the ticket.
If that repeatable quest is the only way to get a free ticket-ball, and there is no other way to get the components, and they don't increase the drop-rate of copper tickets... I don't see how I will get the fashion items at all!
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i only got the quest for 1 ball today (flowers that got turned into craftingmats for one ball, no voucher or mats for 2 balls, like yesterday)
this more the 0.00000001% chance to get the mount is like grinding for nothing
if the game was faster (3 or 5 min), and the ball locked in a indor match (no outbound, plus and the prize comming from playing the game would be much better...
I will only get my warboar for my 2 new toons...
Good luck everyone
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Buried Under Blacklake (WIP) - NW-DEDV2PAEP
The Redcap Rebels (WIP) - NW-DO23AFHFH
My Foundry playthrough channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Ruskaga/featured
And layers/grindy nonsense/annoyance is only ever a botting incentive. It actively makes non-botting players wish they had a bot for it.
And the copper tickets droprate is waay to low.
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I did the white ball grouping. I couldn't use my ticket-ball on the sahha playfield. On pressing a number key for belt slots with the 3 ticket balls in, nothing happend. So we used the white balls, which meanwhile seems disabled.
Rough estimate:
It takes 2 min for one ball to vanish, leaving two bronce tickets.
880/2 = 440 min, around 7 hours.
White balling is disabled, so need get ticket-balls per day or buy them.
Lets buy them.
2 bronce tickets per ball: 440 balls needed.
5 peeps per party. 440/5 = 88 ticket-balls per person needed.
88*100 Zen per Ball = 8800 Zen = 88$, where 10$ = 1000 Zen.
88$ and 7 hours for a digital fashion set?
It's sad...the update to the event was a great concept and something like this takes all the fun out of it.
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Children of the Fey (RELEASED) - NW-DKSSAPFPF
Buried Under Blacklake (WIP) - NW-DEDV2PAEP
The Redcap Rebels (WIP) - NW-DO23AFHFH
My Foundry playthrough channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Ruskaga/featured
The event design usually is like this, customer perspective: Get a good reward for a starter to get you on track. You started, you wouldn't want to waste what is already there, so keep going. As the event end draws near, there might open a gap on event currency for you, to be filled from Zen. Usually, you can reach the goals set without Zen, but this requires you to atune yourself to the per day schedule given.
Fair? Fair enough, I'd say. If we are able to estimate what the deal is. This time my estimate is, the sahha event offers rewards for input something 5 times off anything I deem reasonable.
hustin1 wrote:
> It's vastly cheaper to just pick them up on the AH.
Last time I looked, the sarong was offered for 1 Mio AD. Any of my characters deem themselves extremely rich whenever they own about 150000 AD. And, however the person making the offer has aquired it on day one of the event, I don't want to support that kind of behavior in entertainment.
176$ and 7 hours for a digital fashion set?