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Extreme difficulty in module 6
djmaximo
Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 8 Arc User
Hello.
There is a reality that I do not think it is unknown, it is:
In the new module 6 has increased the level of difficulty and an got new set teams to get in dungeons, the problem is that the dungeons are impossible to achieve and that you know well because if we do not lose life an enemy from 5 team players, which we well equipped, it is because something strange happens, I wonder is sought with this ?, if you want players generally marchandonos the game ended.
if we can not defeat a monster goalkeeper or any other type within the cell as expected, we can kill the boos that are just blow your air destroys us ?. this well raise the level of difficulty but is currently last in the extreme, I see more and more people leave the game unable to move at the end of his difficulty in dungeons level 70 I would like to get an answer from you, auque for me It will be obvious that the level of extreme damage to enemies do not think can be lowered. from already thank you for a non-automated response please.
PD. I think the players demanded a bit more difficult, not impossible to realize it was a dungeon
There is a reality that I do not think it is unknown, it is:
In the new module 6 has increased the level of difficulty and an got new set teams to get in dungeons, the problem is that the dungeons are impossible to achieve and that you know well because if we do not lose life an enemy from 5 team players, which we well equipped, it is because something strange happens, I wonder is sought with this ?, if you want players generally marchandonos the game ended.
if we can not defeat a monster goalkeeper or any other type within the cell as expected, we can kill the boos that are just blow your air destroys us ?. this well raise the level of difficulty but is currently last in the extreme, I see more and more people leave the game unable to move at the end of his difficulty in dungeons level 70 I would like to get an answer from you, auque for me It will be obvious that the level of extreme damage to enemies do not think can be lowered. from already thank you for a non-automated response please.
PD. I think the players demanded a bit more difficult, not impossible to realize it was a dungeon
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If the only way, to get your argument through, is, to discredit everyone who does not share your opinion, then your argument is weak and perhaps you should find a better one.
Dungeons ARE extremely hard. Using tons of scrolls of /mass/ life is not an option to kill end boss. OK to use 1-2-3 scrolls but something like 10 ... it's not worth it at all.
I have perfect party, we managed to complete all 3 end-game dungeons in legit way and can say yea, they are EXTREMELY hard. Not only one shot trash mobs, but final bosses are ... hm nasty SOB. Let say that eTOS is little bit easier, but eCC is a hell literally. In there is a moment, when all the ground is on fire, one shot archers spawns in that fire circles and you just have to open the big keg ... But what happens next - boss get enraged and if even a tiny lag, all party falls. Let say you manage to dodge this nasty attack, what GWF can do except start to sprint and pray to deflect, cuz even with all the DR from Unstoppable and sprint is impossible to survive. Not to say tt there is sound bug and if you don't hear when boss starts to curse before that enraged attack ... you are dead.
So if you say dungeons are just hard, please post here a video to see, how you handle there. It will be fun. Otherwise @openforbreakfast
said it.
Imo dungeons are made like this in purpose, to be almost impossible, cuz if they are doable by all kind of parties, ppl will gear fast and start whining for new content. And they will want it now, or yesterday ....
just about everything, now we need parties just to kill the trash mobs. The new gear may be twice as good, but the mobs are now 4x harder. Game went from being fun to "why bother"..........
...if you have Shield on tab. Or Fox' Cunning active.
You don't even need that. At-wills do 15-30k a hit at most, which means that you need to aggro more than 8 npcs on average to die instantly. Which means again that you're doing it wrong. Or that you're in red, and then the OHK is well deserved.
That's why you're failing.
I get hit for 100k sometimes from mere brutes. Might be crits, might be double-hits, but it's about getting OSKed or not. Not about getting OSKed only in rare cases. Also, catching two unavoidable hits within a tenth of a second should IMO also qualify as OSK, even though it technically might not be 100% correct. Typical things are e.g. the (HE Lvl 73) leap-baba or the amazingly sneaky undead giant in IwD...
Basically I'd have to choose with a DC to dedicate all my defense slots and selectable gear options to defense, and pick all my boons to that avail. Then I'd suck as healer (because % of my HP is base of several heals). BTW Burning gear, (Lvl 60) Seldarine cloak, 21% DR... ...already 2 Def Azure Enchants used. Little to no on-board buff options, and the few % from Angel just don't cut it. And the slide dodge takes a tenth of a second to initiate - TR is easier, as the roll starts immediately...
Other games wich have similar damage-hitpoint-ratio issues introduce health gating to avoid this problem.
yeah no. the ranged attack from wights in Kessels hit for almost 90k. ranged at-will attack, no warning, no red area, barely even any animation that it's coming, and as a ranged attack you probably won't see it anyway, esp. if they are behind you. 90k is a 1-hit kill for the vast majority of players. I have GS (wtfever) 2600 and only 75k hp. this is in a 1600 level skirmish. totally, absolutely out of whack and simply unforgivable that the mod launched this way, much less remains this way after over a month. shameful, actually.
I was trying eCC again this morning and I was getting one-shotted by pirate Cutthroats. That's with 4.19k IL, 100k HP, 18.6k defense, 55.3% DR.
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the lesson to be learned here kids is that it doesnt matter how much defense you stack you need to focus on killing potential not defense. kills them fast enough and cc chain them and they cant hurt you now can they?offense is the best defense.
Then guys why am I succeeding while you're failing? Am I a wizard IRL? Or do I play with support classes actually supporting, ie increasing DR, shielding others for x damage, and so on?
Stop focusing on defense, unless you're a tank it's a worthless stat, you're only slowing down kills. It's the tank and cleric's job (and maybe trapper HR in T2s, but not required) to defend you while one CW or ranger can provide enough control to keep damage rare enough so that you're not getting hit too often. Provided the CW uses control spells like shard instead of racing for paingiver with sudden storm or other similar <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, that is.
tell that to everyone denying me intrance to dungeons because im a hr. its all about the cw now.
Send me a friend invite black and I am more then willing to run t2's with a skilled HR. Those of who actually know what we are doing know the value of fox cunning in t2's and are willing to take a hr for this plus their control. I do t2's, legit I know what I am talking about here and I am more then willing to help competent pkayers for groups with other competent players. If you know what you doing, I will even throw you an invite to nwc, that way you have access to a much larger pool of knowledgeable players.
T2s should not be this difficult though. only those with full enchants and legendarys would be able to complete them. there needs to be a steady progression that is more fitting for the game.
I'm all for difficult dungeons and tactics being used, but some of these boss designs are horrible. and getting 1 shotted by a regular mob so often grinds the nerves.
The T2s much rather see these T2s tuned down for the arrival of the next dungeons.
For example, I'd much rather see spellplague where all 3 bosses (and optional) are end-boss level type encounters, each dropping decent amount of loot, getting harder and harder, so you have to make progress and you do not NEED to complete a whole dungeon to get good loot.
And if you are in a good coordinated group then you can do all bosses in one sitting once you mastered each encounter and be rewarded with alot of loot. As a "hardcore" type player i would much rather see dungeon designs like this.
and also the featured satirical comedic adventure "A Call for Heroes".
it'd be nice if they reduced / removed crits from boss attacks or just their undodgeable attacks. as being hit by an 80k ticking dot that you cant avoid isn't fun, while at least if it didnt crit you would have a chance for your party to heal you / to mitigate it
Drunken Goose of MidNight Express. - 3.3k Paladin , 3.6k GWF , 3.1k GF,
and also the featured satirical comedic adventure "A Call for Heroes".
I can tell you, the constant one-shotting has gotten REALLY tiresome. I've had it up to here with it. They need to stop blowing us off and actually DO something about the difficulty. Remove ARP, lower dmg, SOMETHING.
Blood Magic (RELEASED) - NW-DUU2P7HCO
Children of the Fey (RELEASED) - NW-DKSSAPFPF
Buried Under Blacklake (WIP) - NW-DEDV2PAEP
The Redcap Rebels (WIP) - NW-DO23AFHFH
My Foundry playthrough channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Ruskaga/featured