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New mounts 4000 Bonus Move, Regen and Now Armour Penetration.

kuragkoviskuragkovis Member Posts: 85 Arc User
edited October 2015 in General Discussion (PC)
First I have one the Armoured Strider ,, 4000 Move Flame attack, My Opinion Move Bonus and attack seems fine but even that imbalences things, especially in PVP it just Unfair, but when was PVP Fair you say??

Massive bonus to Regen and AP Are too much the case massive imbalance and frankly are a joke, whats next the Hellhound mount with 4000 power!, what fool is going to pay £30 @ 3-5million ads for one

Well the sort of fool can't win in PVP without a cheat, My HR dose well in PVP when I bother and rides a Worg, no bonus there, with 68% Resistance ignored, 60% crit rate and 90% crit sev shes cool but how much would +4000 AP Give, well around +40% resistance ignored is the calculation, so I would be doing damage just looking at an opponenet let alone shooting them, She already kills Tanks in two or three shots now, with that it would be one shot goodnight and the Archer is King of the hill.

Unfair you bet because unless your Tanks got an Armoured strider your slow, very very slow (Oh now thats toon that has the Strider my Paladin.. LoL

Anyway point made the massive stat boosts form Buy in addons are totally unfair and Biased to the cashcow gamer, lets have something you gan get for 50ads that gives a 4k boost instead of costing 4MILL!

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  • theycallmetomutheycallmetomu Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,861 Arc User
    As the game progresses, new gear supplants old gear. Purple mounts have always been necessary to really stay competitive. I fail to see why this is anything new.

    But, sure, it'd be nice if event mounts gave something. Like if the next winter event added a new mount that gave +1000 or +2000 stat points of some sort. So those willing to spend mils of AD still get their return on investment, but so that those who don't have the cash can get something to narrow the gap.
  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    Hi, I got this Axbeak Mount out oft lockbox few days ago...but guess what, due to class imbalance my warlock gets wrecked like before
    TR oneshots as GF does
    You have to play the right class to benefit from it
    So only thing that happens is some classes get more broken
    They habe to close this gap and adjust all other mounts
    Why dies one epic Mount give bonus stats and the other don't ? Silly as always
  • tassedethe13tassedethe13 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 806 Arc User
    4000 Armor pen doesn't give you +40% resistance ignored but 10%
  • kieranmtornkieranmtorn Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 382 Arc User
    armor pen is 100/1 not 400/1.
  • tassedethe13tassedethe13 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 806 Arc User
    Really ? will check this...
  • deathbeezdeathbeez Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 789 Arc User
    I also assumed 400 = 1%, like other stats.
  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    Actually, it gives you 16~32 % RI.

    ArP is 100:1 with a little bit of a diminishing return on the high scale, but assume 40% RI there for 4K ArP. Tenacity Armor Penetration Resistance is less 20~60% effectiveness, so 40 x ( 1 - 0.6 ) = 16% or higher based from the target's tenacity. Max 32% RI increase if player has no tenacity at all besides the base ArP resist.
  • tassedethe13tassedethe13 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 806 Arc User
    Do you have a link about the curves of stats to share with us please ?
  • theycallmetomutheycallmetomu Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,861 Arc User
    Is ArP still like it used to be where if your ArP lets you bypass more than the target's actual defense, any extra is just wasted?
  • scathiasscathias Member Posts: 1,174 Arc User
    yes it is. armor pen can only reduce the amount of DR that a player or creature actually has, it does not allow you to reduce their DR into the negatives to further increase your damage, but this is where the debuffs from things like divine glow, high prophet, plague fire, terror etc come into play. these debuffs can reduce DR into the negatives, so you want enough armor pen to get through all the DR a mob has (60% is enough for pve, in pvp you should be focusing on other stuff probably, but that depends on your class and build) so that the debuffs can give you the most benefit
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  • cesukecesuke Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    Rants and More rants i had The Armored Strider and is the most useless mount ever it didnt give any "considerable advantage" in PVP or pve u know The mount attack do 10k damage and have casting animación ? Is less than an autoattack.... It would be inbalanced in very low lvls but that is not important . Anyways if it was so OP ppl wouldnt sell it as soon as they get it ...
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  • vordaynvordayn Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,283 Arc User
    Their way of dealing with power creep only lasts one Mod it seems.

    Next mod, make everyone with a shiny new mount OP again!
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  • jonkocajonkoca Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,586 Arc User
    Yep, there's guys out there with 145% resistance ignored. Whatever you wear, you're fighting naked. Lol. However, slow HR is slow, I'll keep my strider for a while.
    No idea what my toon is now.
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  • jacksoonjacksoon Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 332 Arc User
    Stats mount are too expensive :/ And there nothing worth for a lil DC healing spec :/ maybe the axe mount for some solo damage with the ArP :/ I think's only DPS class got benefit from the new stats mount.
  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    I get exactly 30% RI from 4000 arp, from 48,4 to 78,5%
  • teatewteatew Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 61 Arc User
    vordayn said:

    Their way of dealing with power creep only lasts one Mod it seems.

    Next mod, make everyone with a shiny new mount OP again!


    Haha ya, I would love the next mount to be an Oathbound Paladin! har har that would be funny, the innate power could be 'god mode' when you use it in combat, you gain 1,000,000,000,000 temp hps that only last for 5minutes with a 20 second cool down and heal dot for 187k every second and block all damage taken by 75% with reflecting back damage x 500% back to attackers.

  • guille23mxguille23mx Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 340 Arc User
    teatew said:

    vordayn said:

    Their way of dealing with power creep only lasts one Mod it seems.

    Next mod, make everyone with a shiny new mount OP again!


    Haha ya, I would love the next mount to be an Oathbound Paladin! har har that would be funny, the innate power could be 'god mode' when you use it in combat, you gain 1,000,000,000,000 temp hps that only last for 5minutes with a 20 second cool down and heal dot for 187k every second and block all damage taken by 75% with reflecting back damage x 500% back to attackers.

    TROLOLOL
  • zeusomzeusom Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 810 Arc User
    Just wait till more mounts in the series come out and your compelled to purchase yet another..

    4000 Crit
    4000 Recovery
    4000 Power
    4000 Lifesteal
    4000 Deflect

    Or not..
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  • asterotgasterotg Member Posts: 1,742 Arc User
    zeusom said:

    Just wait till more mounts in the series come out and your compelled to purchase yet another..

    4000 Crit
    4000 Recovery
    4000 Power
    4000 Lifesteal
    4000 Deflect

    Or not..

    4k lifesteal would be the ultimate sign, that the Devs have no clue about their own game. 4k mount, 4k stronghold, 6k from gear and a few % from WOD boons + endless consumption = Onehit or unkillable

    Chars: CW, DC, GF, GWF, HR and TR.
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