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Ad removal

zephyriahzephyriah Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,980 Arc User
in General Discussion (Xbox One)
Well, we knew it was coming. But, slipping it into the patch notes for tomorrow with no advance notice is beyond repugnant.

The posts discussing it here were removed "because it only affected PC". I don't understand this sneak tactic or the removal, since this economy is fine and there are already differences between the two platforms with Sword Coast Adventures and foundry.
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  • UnknownUnknown
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  • zephyriahzephyriah Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,980 Arc User
    poopoomcmuffns said:

    The patch notes for xbox?

    Check the scheduled maintenance post at the top of the forum.

  • mightyerikssonmightyeriksson Member Posts: 842 Arc User
    Well this sucks, the economy on XB1 had nowhere near the AD amount that poured out on PC.

    Meh, imho, they kinda killed the game with the EE update, everything has just been boring since then.
    Also, it's sort of sad that after the "biggest update yet, with 4 expansions" the game has less content than the week before...
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  • mightyerikssonmightyeriksson Member Posts: 842 Arc User
    What I don't understand, is why this developer always keeps things "secret" until the last minute, why not announce changes & events in advance?
    That way the players know what to expect and can adapt to those changes with less "friction"...
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  • oldbaldyoneoldbaldyone Member Posts: 1,840 Arc User
    Same exact thing happened on pc side....not sure why this was a surprise.
  • mightyerikssonmightyeriksson Member Posts: 842 Arc User
    oldbaldyone said:

    Same exact thing happened on pc side....not sure why this was a surprise.

    Sure, after two years of countless exploits, bots and the much, much faster (ab)use of Gateway in Leadership...

    So yes, I think that (effectively) removing AD from Leadership on XB1 was a bad decision, and the price-change on GMOP's should most certainly have been announced BEFORE the double RP week-end...

    I doubt there are many that believe it was "honestly, purely coincidental" , even if it turns out that is true...
  • amafia313amafia313 Member Posts: 270 Arc User
    I agree, they knew they were going to do this update well before dbl rp. Screwed a lot of ppl over.
  • rockstargfurockstargfu Member Posts: 423 Arc User
    4 artifacts to 139 , 3 i turned to mythic, tell me about it
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  • hipranger1hipranger1 Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    Agree. Not announcing the GMoP price change prior to double RP was a big, calculated FU to the players. I would sooner give my money to a Chinese gold farmer than to this company.
  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator
    Going to make this the "unofficial" thread to discuss AD changes, and merge all other threads about them to this one.
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  • nightranger7477nightranger7477 Member Posts: 211 Arc User
    Talk about right between the eyes! Man what disrespect to the players! After all we players make the Money engine run. This is totally wrong. But I'm so glad that I only leveled my artifacts to epic.
  • mightyerikssonmightyeriksson Member Posts: 842 Arc User
    I'm going to go out on a limb here, and predict that nothing is "reworked" in Leadership other than the removal or reduction in RAD...

    Any serious developer wouldn't do this unless they have an equally rewarding substitute ready when you pull the switch, as in don't take out the dungeons until you have the "new & improved" versions ready...

    So, I guess this change will tell if they have put some thought into it, or just killed a profession that takes a LOT of time to level up?

    Just about the only thing in the last two months that has improved in this game is the added campaigns, everything else is worse or missing...
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    mightyeriksson said:

    I'm going to go out on a limb here, and predict that nothing is "reworked" in Leadership other than the removal or reduction in RAD...

    Any serious developer wouldn't do this unless they have an equally rewarding substitute ready when you pull the switch, as in don't take out the dungeons until you have the "new & improved" versions ready...

    So, I guess this change will tell if they have put some thought into it, or just killed a profession that takes a LOT of time to level up?

    Just about the only thing in the last two months that has improved in this game is the added campaigns, everything else is worse or missing...

    you are right they just killed the profession.
    by the way lv 24 leadership is still your best way to farm unbound resonance stone, which nets you nice ads with multiple alts. Im for one increasing my alt number regardless.
    lv 25 coffers are nice for some random peridots and 1.5k exp every 4 hr which are going to help , togheter with stronghold quests, to reach the cap of your overflow influence.

    nothing really worth the time for levelling it up but still 3-4 times more useful than other professions.
  • vdeekvvdeekv Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    Totally agree that announcing the lower priced marks after double RP is a pretty messed up way to treat your loyal players... Kinda like announcing Mod6 (and the associated redundancy of your current artifact gear) shortly after the last double RP... Using the old 'carrot and stick' analogy this is basically like getting a nibble at the carrot then getting beaten to the floor with the stick before you can even swallow :/

    In defense of the Leadership changes, I do think this could be a good move... With the incoming Windows 10 integration, we're going to be getting remote play via Windows devices. This potentially opens up the Xbox to all the same shenanigans as the PC players have had access to, which have left their economy in such a mess.

  • blindmonkeyzblindmonkeyz Member Posts: 289 Arc User
    No offense to those of you who use leadership for your AD, but that doesnt affect most of us. I for one never used it. So all this change is a benefit to me. The changes after the double refinement weekend is all part of business. This is a free to play game people. why is it everytime there is change, people complain? why cant anyone just be happy with what they have. Its not like they announced they are shutting the game down after a major event weekend.. .LOL. The changes are being made to keep things manageable. It made an impact on PC, thats why we are getting it so soon. They want people to enjoy this game with out putting thousands of dollars into it. But everyone seems to want to be greedy. Its a game to play, not a game to sit on leadership and make AD, seriously why even play the game then? Changes are made so it forces people to actually play the game, which is what it is designed for.
    XB One
    LGPG Alliance
    Reagents of Death - Leader
    CW - Phoenix lvl 70 4034 (Main)
    GF - Spectre lvl 70 4012 (Main)
    GWF - Ice lvl 70 4010 (Main)
    SW - Zor lvl 70 3230 (Main)
    OP - Box lvl 70 3002 (Retired)

    PS4
    Look Good Play Good
    GWF - Ice lvl 70 3875 (Main)
    GF - Spectre lvl 70 2669 (Alt)

  • mightyerikssonmightyeriksson Member Posts: 842 Arc User
    blindmonkeyz said:


    ... It made an impact on PC, thats why we are getting it so soon. They want people to enjoy this game with out putting thousands of dollars into it. But everyone seems to want to be greedy. Its a game to play, not a game to sit on leadership and make AD, seriously why even play the game then?

    Yeah, it made an impact alright, go check out Steam's user activity for Neverwinter...
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  • stercesderisedstercesderised Member Posts: 334 Arc User
    mightyeriksson said:

    oldbaldyone said:

    Same exact thing happened on pc side....not sure why this was a surprise.

    ...I doubt there are many that believe it was "honestly, purely coincidental" , even if it turns out that is true...
    Considering it's been stated by Strum and the devs via multiple communication vehicles (twitter, twitch most recently) that the events are almost always planned in advance, you can eliminate coincidence...
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  • mightyerikssonmightyeriksson Member Posts: 842 Arc User
    stercesderised said:

    mightyeriksson said:

    oldbaldyone said:

    Same exact thing happened on pc side....not sure why this was a surprise.

    ...I doubt there are many that believe it was "honestly, purely coincidental" , even if it turns out that is true...
    Considering it's been stated by Strum and the devs via multiple communication vehicles (twitter, twitch most recently) that the events are almost always planned in advance, you can eliminate coincidence...
    But, but, they (@Neverwintergame) said so on Twitter, why would they lie about something like that?



    /sarcasm if someone managed to miss that...
  • sharpassassin1sharpassassin1 Member Posts: 70 Arc User
    All of the greater marks have been brought down to more respectable levels due to availability, the one exception being the GMOP so this was a much needed change. However getting the player base to burn up their available AD's during double refinement was clearly a calculated move....

    As for the leadership profession....it will be extremely discouraging to have a reduction or removal of RAD's. With a set cap on what can be converted daily it seems rather pointless to farm the leadership profession for RAD's (unless you just like seeing a huge number of RAD's you can't use), however there are many of us who enjoy getting that additional 5-10k RAD's daily...which in all fairness was well earned due to the amount of time it takes to level the profession versus what can be earned in the AH in other professions without any conversion limitations.
  • mightyerikssonmightyeriksson Member Posts: 842 Arc User
    An easy solution to RAD is to bring back the old T2 dungeons, keep them as they were (difficulty-wise) and have the old loot-tables that gives you something to salvage...

    I'm guessing you still have them on your servers, yes?
  • blindmonkeyzblindmonkeyz Member Posts: 289 Arc User
    mightyeriksson said:

    blindmonkeyz said:


    ... It made an impact on PC, thats why we are getting it so soon. They want people to enjoy this game with out putting thousands of dollars into it. But everyone seems to want to be greedy. Its a game to play, not a game to sit on leadership and make AD, seriously why even play the game then?

    Yeah, it made an impact alright, go check out Steam's user activity for Neverwinter...
    go look at their exchange too. its down to 388 since the change. why cant people just accept. If you really dont like it, go play Tetris or Sonic the Hedgehog. geez... LOL

    XB One
    LGPG Alliance
    Reagents of Death - Leader
    CW - Phoenix lvl 70 4034 (Main)
    GF - Spectre lvl 70 4012 (Main)
    GWF - Ice lvl 70 4010 (Main)
    SW - Zor lvl 70 3230 (Main)
    OP - Box lvl 70 3002 (Retired)

    PS4
    Look Good Play Good
    GWF - Ice lvl 70 3875 (Main)
    GF - Spectre lvl 70 2669 (Alt)

  • mightyerikssonmightyeriksson Member Posts: 842 Arc User
    blindmonkeyz said:

    mightyeriksson said:

    blindmonkeyz said:


    ... It made an impact on PC, thats why we are getting it so soon. They want people to enjoy this game with out putting thousands of dollars into it. But everyone seems to want to be greedy. Its a game to play, not a game to sit on leadership and make AD, seriously why even play the game then?

    Yeah, it made an impact alright, go check out Steam's user activity for Neverwinter...
    go look at their exchange too. its down to 388 since the change. why cant people just accept. If you really dont like it, go play Tetris or Sonic the Hedgehog. geez... LOL

    Yep, and on XB1 the exchange is 169 as of right now, how many people do you think are going to buy Zen to exchange at that rate?
  • stercesderisedstercesderised Member Posts: 334 Arc User
    Any chance you can use a little lube next time cryptic? Hoping you have the decency for a reach around....
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  • patsfirepatsfire Member Posts: 833 Arc User
    LOL, I love how everyone is finally agreeing to what I said months ago....that this game will fail, and most people would stop playing around this time. All the doubters....where you at now lol.
  • nightranger7477nightranger7477 Member Posts: 211 Arc User
    A Calculated market attack is exactly what has happened... The Devs are taking back control of the AD exchange by removing all of the stray astral diamonds everyone was sitting on to try and balance the market. They knew how much AD would be spent during double refinement and that there were only so many GMOP's on the AH and when those were exhausted because of requirement when leveling artifacts to legendary or even mythic not to mention the GMOP's required to go from perfect to pure or transcendent! The AH must have been exhausted within hours after the double refinement started, the only place to go for them after that? The Wondrous Bazaar! Hmmmm Leadership nerf just the icing on the cake! Now that the have put a dent in the players, maybe they can start focusing on finding a way to perma-ban the Chinese gold farming spammers that should have been the focus in the first place!
  • blindmonkeyzblindmonkeyz Member Posts: 289 Arc User
    This actually puts a dent into the spammers/farmers. cause they cant use their leadership armies to make millions of AD a day like they were. That is the whole point in nerfing the AD on the leadership. How else will they make their millions of AD to sell and spam they are selling. unfortunately thats only the AD side, there is still the gold side. But you gotta start somewhere. if you havent looked at their websites lately, their prices have doubled. cause they are finally getting hit. maybe they will go away now. wishful thinking. lol
    XB One
    LGPG Alliance
    Reagents of Death - Leader
    CW - Phoenix lvl 70 4034 (Main)
    GF - Spectre lvl 70 4012 (Main)
    GWF - Ice lvl 70 4010 (Main)
    SW - Zor lvl 70 3230 (Main)
    OP - Box lvl 70 3002 (Retired)

    PS4
    Look Good Play Good
    GWF - Ice lvl 70 3875 (Main)
    GF - Spectre lvl 70 2669 (Alt)

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