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Starship Trait" Kemocite Overload from Xindi Aquatic Carrier
doctorstegi
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The starship trait says on beam overload - 10 Damage Resistance for 5 seconds does that stack? I don't have the ship and I don't know anybody who has it so I'm wondering. The new mudd bundle has that ship an well I'm not sure how interested I'm.
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The trait is from the era that it would actually note if it was stackable, so it very likely doesn't self-stack. It also says 'initial hit', so only the first burst of BO would have it.
https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/xbox/star-trek-online/news/detail/11518853 says xbox on the link so it comes to xbox and playstation first lol? Either way that mean it is the next sale on PC as well at least thats what I read out of that.
Huh. That's a first, usually console is behind on Mudd releases. Consoles have only ever been ahead with the old T6 revamp lockboxes, but those were seemingly abandoned in favor of direct Infinity lockbox releases.
The Jem'hadar consoles have all been un-ship-restricted, and the base Jem fighters and Jem fighter Squadrons can be used on any ship too, though the frigates (pending you can unlock the frigates right now, as at least the Legendary ship isn't from what I've heard) can't be used on any but this dread and the Jem Support Carrier.
Which trait do you consider the only good one? Dominion Coordination? It does seem nice for carrier builds.
I did like the T5 Xindi carrier quite a bit when it was newer, and it quite a bit of fun, with it being pretty fast compared to most other carriers. Jem'hadar T5 one was pretty nice back when it was newer too, if slow, and I even used it a bit with my first-run Jem recruit, but moved on even after unlocking the frigates via a Phoenix token (kinda annoying that option got removed). I never used one, but the T5 Tholian used to be the proverbial queen of supported/nannied runs with the frigate pets having Attack Pattern: Beta (doesn't self-stack, but will across entities) and Fire at Will, but it seems to have stopped being a preferred choice for that role some time ago. Flight-deck carriers are usually more desired for their damage output from themselves, potentially even higher than the Dreadnought Carriers (including the ones above), but the Herald Quas is not that great being 4/4 instead of the usual 5/3 and only has 3 Tac consoles. The Quas should claw back a small bit for energy builds with a Universal/Intel Lt. Commander slot, but I'm not sure that's enough to recommend it unless you really like the look.
If it wasn't for me already owning the carriers I would have preferred getting them via the Mudd pack.
Pretty sure the T5 flying shed would do and that would be cheaper than than these joke bundles, even if you factor in I own most of that pack already.
As for this mudd pack. Yuck. Cryptic is making it easy to not buy these two mudd packs in a row that are horrible.
Its a choice pack Cryptic... all you have to do is throw one or two good ships into any mudd pack to sell the half size pack all day long. Throwing 4 Infinity box carriers into a pack and see what happens. I guess some people enjoy playing buggy carriers... most players aren't really into carriers. At least not enough to justify buying this pack. Toss one good Infinity or promo ship into the mix and all of a sudden players will be complaining about being forced to select carriers they don't like or keys.
Wait don't listen to me... continue to release the TRIBBLE ships in one big TRIBBLE pack like these last two. Put all the decent ships into one pack next time. lol
It's even worse than that, there's no key or even Lobi option for this. The only options besides the ships are:
[2x Pack] T6 Ship Coupon - 100% Off
[1x] Epic Phoenix Prize Pack Token
[9x Pack] T6x Upgrade Tokens
[10x Pack] Ultimate Tech Upgrade
Other than possibly the Epic Phoenix token, I would expect anyone with the cash or space monies for this bundle to already have those needs filled already.
It is weird that the most recent releases to new options have not been Promo moves, like this bundle on console, and the Tal Shiar Adapted Destroyer lockbox ship being the draw to the Lobi sale on PC, instead of a Promo ship (last one was the Inquiry).
Fair. I haven't revisited a carrier in a long time.
So as someone who does like carriers.... is this a good pack for someone that likes carriers ?
EDIT... see you did sort of post your take earlier ?
The Xindi is pretty good but the problem is to get the most out of it you need all 3 Xindi ships. With the Xindi console set you can give the Xindi pets 20% weapon haste. Then with the new ish carrier consoles like Sensor Burst gives the pets 30% crit chance and then traits like Interface Drones and Scrambled Fighters to boost damage. Along with Feel the Weight of our Presence to debuff the targets resistance via number of pets.
I wouldn't say the turn rate is amazing but as carriers go the Xindi turns pretty decently and it has 4 forward slots and a good Commander Tac officer slot. Plus visual I find it a nice ship. The trait is useless though I am going to retest it tomorrow as its been many years since I last used it.
The Jem'Hadar Dreadnought Carrier is decent or average. Visually I like the look of it and a themed build around Bug Ships is not the best but fun and effetive enough. Although only average at best it has perhaps the best trait in this pack. To be honest all the ships traits and consoles seem rather subpar. With Concentrate Firepower 3 it makes a decent torp boat with pets although one could argue there are better options with other carriers outside this pack.
Despite being a Flight Deck and normally Flight decks beat carriers. The Herald Quas Flight Deck Carrier is by far the worst in the pack. The trait and consoles are near useless. The ship layout is terrible and the ship itself doesnt even work for Space Barbie I really don't understand what this carrier is meant to be about. The Herald Quas Flight could be one of the worst carriers in game.
Thinking about it, I think he devs have taken the wrong approach here. They should have done something like here is the Xindi Carrier with the Xindi pet consoles for the pet boosts. Or here is the Jem'Hadar Dreadnought with a Bug Frigate unlock and a free Elite Bug pet which if I recall you don't get by owning this carrier. Some sort of Synergy to make the pack worthwhile. It feel s like someone was asked to make a carrier pack without knowing any background on carrier use in game. Some sort of pet bonus even if its just a free Elite pet per ship should have been added. Some sort of incentive and themed carrier bonus.
The Xindi escort was in the faith of the heart pack. The Jem Strike was in the worm hole pack. Tholian Cruiser was in the dread pack.
I agree since the start they should have thought out how some of the ships where used and packed them together a bit better. I mean we did get one pack that had both the temporal sci and temporal destroyer that was logical. These last few packs really feel like throw togethers where they are just listing off the oldest X or Y type of gamble ship and boxing them.
I hope they are just trying to get them all into packs they can rotate in sales. Hope they are holding a decent mudd pack for the end of the summer and another decent one for the end of the year. I guess the last two sucking so hard has made it a little less painful keeping up with Legendary packs.
Where things might get more interesting is if you use the Kemocite trait with Beam Overload into a Gravity well on a build that is stacked up with multiple triggers of BO. For example Preferential Targeting + Kemocite Overload + Field-Modified Overload Support into a group of NPC's. Perhaps with an Energy Weapons Officer: Chance (50%) to reduce the time for any beam special attack to recharge after use by 2.5-10 seconds. It might be worth looking into but I wouldn't go out you way to buy this stuff unless a lot more testing is done.
This trait is a garbage. Wtf lol about +3%-5% to hull only dmg on 5 sec?
I couldn't care less about the other ships in that one - I know some folks may buy it because of the Dominion DN alone tho.
Honestly, just use KLW; it does everything that trait does.. but better and more frequently. The long internal cooldown on the trait just pushes it solidly into the "don't bother" bin.
The ship itself isn't bad though - I can still remember a short window in time when its little brother, the Narcine, was a 'meta' ship right before the introduction of T6 and the Sheshar. Relatively similar playstyles.
I think with a bit of playing around its possible to get the trait with a similar uptime as LKW at which point the trait should on energy builds pull massively ahead.
(This is with zero projectiles fitted)
That is really going to depend on haste and weapon choice I would think. 10% on ANY weapon hit... vs once per overload cycle.
I mean 1 hit every 15s.... and if you say it procs on the [over] that is what 2.5% chance per cycle per weapon. So I guess 2.5% chance x (if your insane) 8 beams. (16.75% chance for one hit per weapon cycle)
KLW... 10% chance per weapon per cycle... don't have to run specific less then crafted beam weapons. 38.26% chance of one proc per firing cycle.
I don't know exactly how the over proc stacks... I assume if one goes off it can't proc again for whatever amount of time it adds to overload. I assume its not really 16.75% on every cycle as one proc would probably lock out more over procs ? (no idea I don't use over proc stuff) Meaning it would be 16.75% chance to proc and when it does the next 3-6 cycles would have 0% chance to proc it.
I only concern myself with one proc... cause no one runs Kemo for the dmg. They run it for the free debuff. (which is of course why its so good with Kinetic) I agree on energy its pretty meh... but I sometimes run it cause I have a free tac ensign or something.
Do you know if the Duty Officer (Weapons Expert – Chance when activating a rank I or II beam or cannon firing mode to activate the rank II or III version of it instead) can increase the overload 1 from the beam mod to a 2 or 3?
EDIT: No triggers on 2nd run. Plus I fitted Black Alert Trait which triggers on BO or should do. No triggers for that either. It appears as those BO via over Mod only triggers certain BO triggers not all of them. Kemo trait worked.
Ok thanks.