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dratikusdratikus Member Posts: 118 Arc User
edited December 2018 in The Academy
This is my first time playing after about 4 or 5 years. Level 65 character with T6 ships. It seems like nothing I do to my ship's build changes and it is becoming frustrating. I just want to be able to play episodes on normal difficulty without blowing up all the time. So what I need is information that will describe a set of equipment, weapons, bridge officer skills, and a "how to play" guide for a Federation T6 Cruiser so I won't blow up any more. ;-)

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  • coldnapalmcoldnapalm Member Posts: 7,137 Arc User
    Umm...which cruiser exactly? There are a few.

    Access to fleet items? Do you have at least the T5 reps done? How much resources do you want to spend doing this? We need more details.
  • dratikusdratikus Member Posts: 118 Arc User
    This is my first time playing after almost 5 years. I am trying my best to learn the ship and learn to play it. I am on a mission at normal difficulty and I can not beat an enemy that is a 0 differential. I think it should be easier so clearly my ship and bridge officers are all wrong.

    Right now I am level 65, in a new ship - Oddesy T6 Tactical Star Cruiser. I have 6 Mark XI [Acc] Tetryon beams (3 fore, 3 aft) and 2 regular mark X photon torpedoes.

    My consoles are field emitter mk XIII, booster modulator mk XII, Field emmiter mk Xii, diburnium hull plating mk Xii, nanite reinforced curcuitry mk x, emitter array mk x, universal transwarp computer, universal flagship tactical computer, Tetryon pulse generator Mk XIII (x3)

    My Bridge Officers have Emergency power to shields I and II, reverse Shield polarity III, Tactical Team I, beams fire at will I, Beams overload II, attack pattern beta II, Engineering team I, emergency power to weapons I and II, aceton beam III, Polarize hull I, science team II.

    shields: covariant shield array mk xi [cap]x2,
    warp: field stabaliuzing warp core mk xi [secspd][sss]
    impulse: Jem'hadar combat impulse engines mk xi (very rare)
    deflector: deflector array mk X
  • dratikusdratikus Member Posts: 118 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Do you have at least the T5 reps done?

    I am not sure what that is. I'm just doing episodes. The only season open to me without replaying content is Cardassian Struggle. I managed to get through Spoils of war, and Jabberwocky, and it took me a few hours to get through The Factory . Now I am stuck on The New Link because I am no match for any single ship. And now it's camping my respawn. o_O

  • coldnapalmcoldnapalm Member Posts: 7,137 Arc User
    Okay...so we have quite a bit to work on. The biggest question is gonna be how much resources do you have to get your ship in order? How much EC, how much refined dil. I'm just gonna assume you don't have rep or fleet creds even if you have fleet access. So that is what is gonna be the most important. This of course assumes you like the ship you have. Also is there an energy type you like?
  • dratikusdratikus Member Posts: 118 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Okay...so we have quite a bit to work on. The biggest question is gonna be how much resources do you have to get your ship in order? How much EC, how much refined dil. I'm just gonna assume you don't have rep or fleet creds even if you have fleet access. So that is what is gonna be the most important. This of course assumes you like the ship you have. Also is there an energy type you like?

    It's all Vulcan to me. No idea about any of this. I have 14k zen credits, I have no attachments to ships other than Federation ships and I like them to look like the Constitution ships. ;-) It looks like I have 48k dilithium.

  • coldnapalmcoldnapalm Member Posts: 7,137 Arc User
    How much EC do you have? The basic currency (energy credits). Your refined dil is pretty low so the build will have to rely on things that don't use a lot of dil...like upgrading things a lot...unless you are willing to convert some of that zen into dil. If you EC is low...we may have to look into turning some of that zen into EC as well by buying keys and selling them on the exchange. Optimally, we should avoid this so you can use zen for things like more ships you wanna fly.

    As for getting a connie ship to fly...well if you converted all your zen into key and sold them...you would be about half way to getting the T6 one off the exchange...which will be kinda useless as you would still have no gear to equip it. You could do all normal game content with the T1 ToS connie or the the T2 TMP connie...but I don't think you have the expertise at the moment to do that.

    With the zen you have, you may want to get the T1 ToS connie anyways. It comes with 2 level scaling beam arrays that look like the ToS beams. You can grab them off the ship, dismiss and reclaim again to get a whole set of beam arrays that scales to mark XII for 500 zen...which isn't bad until you can get better. And once you get good enough, you can take her out and blow stuff up too if you wanted to. But that really does depend on how much EC you have.

    And finally...some highly suggested federation ships...

    The arbiter. I normally recommend the pack but since you are ardent fed only, just this ship is fine. It has a trait that is must have for energy weapons and the ship itself is a beast.

    The command tactical battlecruiser (presidio) comes with a good trait that lets you get more from your science slots.

    Tactical Miracle Worker ship (Tucker class) has a trait that will make BFAW last longer.

    If you like the ToS look, getting the ranger with Paladin will let you use the ToS looking ranger skin on the paladin. And the paladin is quite a good ship as well. You can do the same using the Sagittarius and the Gemini class if you prefer that look. The escort and the science duo is also viable...but they are harder to use well. If you liked Axanar, the Perseus skin on the Theseus might be worth it however. The entire temporal pack that gives you all the ToS ships (including that T1 connie) is 15k zen normally...which means the moment it goes on sale, you can get whole pack and that might be a good path for you. It also comes with the 3 pack temporal 31st cent ships which are also good ships that is all factions with decent traits. They don't look very federation like however.
  • dratikusdratikus Member Posts: 118 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    How much EC do you have?
    At the moment, I have 430,835

    coldnapalm wrote: »
    You can grab them off the ship, dismiss and reclaim again ...
    does this work for any ship I buy from the C-store? I always thought if I dismissed a ship I'd loose it, so I never did it.

    coldnapalm wrote: »
    The arbiter. I normally recommend the pack but since you are ardent fed only, just this ship is fine. It has a trait that is must have for energy weapons and the ship itself is a beast.

    That's a nice looking ship. I think I mist have misunderstood something I read... for some reason I bought the Odyssey T6 bundle instead of the battlecruiser bundle.. I think I was thinking a tactical cruiser was a battlecruiser... but I just read up on the Arbiter on gamepedia, and that sounds like an awesome ship..

    So my next field of research is going to be - what is the different between Operations, Science, and tactical ships..

    On a side note, I wish there was a way to filter the C-Store to see just the bundles. The names get lost in the list of ships. :(


  • coldnapalmcoldnapalm Member Posts: 7,137 Arc User
    So...any c-store ship that you buy with zen can be dismissed and reclaimed. The ships you get for free at level 61 for example can not. If you paid zen for the ship, you can reclaim it for free.

    For the oddy and other ship packs like it...the operation (engineer), science and tactical is in relation to their consoles and boff layout. They will have a bent towards the respective field...but not be as a huge difference as say a tactical focused escorts vs a cruiser vs a science ship.

    There is a way to see only packs. In the zen store itself...not the shipyard, one of the tab option is packs. If you are looking for packs, look in that category.

    Oh I suppose I should add...before you spend that zen on new ships or packs (like I said, if you like the ToS connie, that 15k temporal pack just might be the thing for you with a LOT of ToS themed ship options for you to play with), wait for a sale. We just had one...but we get them pretty regularly these days.

    As for gear issues...umm...yeah that is really low dil and EC...and it seems a shame to use zen to prop those up to get you to a decent level where you can just play storylines...especially if you are interested in that pack I mentioned above. On sale, you should be able to grab an arbiter and that pack with 14k zen...but not by much. If you are interested in getting that pack, let me know and I will work something out.
  • sarah2774sarah2774 Member Posts: 177 Arc User
    edited December 2018
    If your ship is the Endeavour Class Tactical Star Cruiser or any T6 star crusier the ship is a good ship. I have done elite difficulty with that ship. Your problem is the gear, traits and skill tree.

    1. 430,835 ec is too little to upgrade anything. You should do Tour the Galaxy https://sto.gamepedia.com/Mission:_Tour_the_Galaxy to build up the ec. It does not matter if you do not finish it any progress will get you ec. No combat involved just travel.
    2. The reason your are dying is that your gear should be XII (very rare) and above. Looking at your ship spec it a mess and the best value for gear are mission rewards. However you cannot do mission rewards since you are too weak so you need to get some sort of temp gear that you can do past mission to get gear.
    3. If you join a fleet, you can buy fleet gear, Convert some zen to dil. Then you have to gather fleet marks. Then get Elite Fleet Protomatter Deflector and Elite Fleet Channeling Covariant Shields. Those are top quality gear. Once you have the gear to do missions go get mission weapons. After that update your warp core and impulse engine from missions. Later you can choose other core and engine according to your play style.
    4. As soon as you can buy personal Trait: Ablative Shell from the exchange.
    5. Keep universal flagship tactical computer. The fire cycle haste is very useful. Take the other ships console from the bundle and make a set from it.
    6. Later make sure your weapons type's are the same energy type when you get from mission set. If you decide to go with Quantum Phase Catalysts set it a phaser type . Therefore all the mission set you get should be phaser type.
    7. Are you Tac, sci or eng? Need to know to sort out the personal trait. Skill Tree?
    8. Change Emergency power to shields II to reverse Shield polarity II, Beams fire at will I to III, Aceton beam III to Directed Energy Modulation.


    If you want to get ec quick and do not care about spending zen. Buy the 20 keys pack with the ultimate upgrade. Then sell the keys for ec.

    Edited: Just notice your last mission done is the factory. It's probably easier to restart a new toon and try not to level fast so that you can use mission gear. You have so far only completed less than 1/5 of the storylines. Do not delete this toon later when you have the ec you can upgrade this toon. You also need a toon to keep your zen.
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  • dratikusdratikus Member Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited December 2018
    sarah2774 wrote: »
    Edited: Just notice your last mission done is the factory.

    Where are you able to see that? I 've been looking for a place to share my character so I'm not doing so much typing. ;-)

    Thank you for the link to Tour the Galaxy. That's a great one for EC.

    I was invited to a fleet, and a could of guys there gave me some upgraded weapons and equipment. We ran a few team events (Romulan Mines). I feel like as link as enemies are not shooting at me I'm OK, but I blow up pretty quickly. I just can't understand why Cryptic made this so hard. They should have an easy mode for people like me who just want to watch some Trek. ;-)

    At any rate, it sounds like a lot of grinding before I can even begin to enjoy the game. Starting over doesn't sound like fun to me as I don't like repeating content. I wish I could change my level back to 60, or 50 and just keep playing.

    Thank you for the tips on bridge officer skills. I have no clue what to do. As for the skill tree, I've done it twice now. I just don't know if I should spend points in weapons or shields. I bought the Arbiter ship because I thought it would do more damage - I see other players swoop in and blow up enemies in 1 to 2 seconds, as it take me that long to blow up. :D There's no theory crafting sites like there are for world of warcraft, so I can't go someplace to read up on these things.. For a game this sure is a lot of work. ;-)

    Anyways, thank you for your advice, I'll try those BO abilities you recommended. \\//,

  • sarah2774sarah2774 Member Posts: 177 Arc User
    dratikus wrote: »

    Where are you able to see that? I 've been looking for a place to share my character so I'm not doing so much typing. ;-)

    I just can't understand why Cryptic made this so hard. They should have an easy mode for people like me who just want to watch some Trek. ;-)

    As for the skill tree, I've done it twice now. I just don't know if I should spend points in weapons or shields.

    I read that from one of your post. The easiest way to show your character is to take a picture.

    I do not think Cryptic meant it to be hard. All factions will end up playing some of the mission at different level so Cryptic made it that the enemy match the level you are at. It just most players do not realize that the higher you level the more difficult the enemy.

    For the skill tree it depends on your playing style. I was going to recommend the basic survival and damage skills but since you have joined a fleet you should be getting good advice and help there. It better not to make any changes to skill for now until you know your play style.

    Arbiter is a good ship. No matter how good is the ship if you do not have the right gear it would be useless.

    Is your character a tactical, science or engineer? Personal traits makes a difference. There are a bit different for each career path.

    There not much work to be done if you just want to play mission. It a lot of work and can be expensive you if want to be a strong dps player. It's just you need to know what work you need to do.
  • dratikusdratikus Member Posts: 118 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    There is a way to see only packs. In the zen store itself...not the shipyard, one of the tab option is packs. If you are looking for packs, look in that category.

    I can only see Bridge packs and Starter Packs but no Ship Packs. :(


  • coldnapalmcoldnapalm Member Posts: 7,137 Arc User
    Go to discount packs and the various ship packs will be there under various tab. The ToS one is temporal special agent pack which is one sale for 10.5k zen for the next few hours. It's under the expansion pack of the discount pack. The mega bundles are 9 pack ships with 3 from each romulan, fed and KDF. Cross faction is 3 ship bundles with one for each faction (usually...the last two of these were two ship bundles one fed and one KDF...no romulan ships). And faction bundles are 3 ships of the same faction bundles.
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