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odstparker
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I've been building my Jupiter class carrier again, and I decided to go with a phaser beam build. I went with the standard fore weapons, Terran Task Force T6 phaser and the Prolonged Engagement beam, along with one of my best crafted ones. In the aft slots, I had my Trilithium-Enhanced omni-beam and two crafted phasers. I decided to grind out the Gamma reputation a bit more and get myself the T6 phaser omni-beam as well, so I can combine it with the console once I get it.
Unfortunately, it appears I'm unable to do that, since we're still restricted to having one set piece omni-directional beam array on the entire ship, fore or aft. I can't replace one of my fore weapons to have both, and I can't simply put it in my aft weapons to have both. I'm stuck having to choose between two amazing set bonuses and two great weapons, just because the developers haven't figured out that adding tons of set piece omni-beams requires a rework of the restriction.
On the flip side, this is not a problem for cannon-armed ships. I have a Tier 6 Fleet Arbiter battlecruiser, and she's fitted with set pieces in almost every slot. Terran, Quad, Prolonged Engagement, and Quantum Phase in the fore slots, and Gamma and Trilithium in the aft slots. If I swapped out my last crafted turret, I could put in the Bio-Molecular heavy turret and have a ship with nothing but set pieces for weapons!
So, I ask you, why are beams restricted to one set piece omni-directional when cannons can have as many set pieces as possible?! I don't see any big deal with allowing beam builds to incorporate multiple omni-directional beams, especially since you already can with crafted ones, just not set pieces. This needs to change, or you need to stop making so many weapon sets with omni-directional beams, because it's a very annoying restriction.
Unfortunately, it appears I'm unable to do that, since we're still restricted to having one set piece omni-directional beam array on the entire ship, fore or aft. I can't replace one of my fore weapons to have both, and I can't simply put it in my aft weapons to have both. I'm stuck having to choose between two amazing set bonuses and two great weapons, just because the developers haven't figured out that adding tons of set piece omni-beams requires a rework of the restriction.
On the flip side, this is not a problem for cannon-armed ships. I have a Tier 6 Fleet Arbiter battlecruiser, and she's fitted with set pieces in almost every slot. Terran, Quad, Prolonged Engagement, and Quantum Phase in the fore slots, and Gamma and Trilithium in the aft slots. If I swapped out my last crafted turret, I could put in the Bio-Molecular heavy turret and have a ship with nothing but set pieces for weapons!
So, I ask you, why are beams restricted to one set piece omni-directional when cannons can have as many set pieces as possible?! I don't see any big deal with allowing beam builds to incorporate multiple omni-directional beams, especially since you already can with crafted ones, just not set pieces. This needs to change, or you need to stop making so many weapon sets with omni-directional beams, because it's a very annoying restriction.
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Turrets aren't as powerful as the other weapons so I guess its a balancing factor.
Also we can only have 1 set and one crafted/mission reward equipped at a time. If you count the Kinetic Cutting Beam we can have 3 Omnis total. Personally I don't count the Kinetic Cutting Beam because its pure kinetic and not any energy type.
The only way omni-beams could work unrestricted like turrets, would be to make them do turret DPS instead of beam array DPS.
I'd prefer them to treat omnis like turrets and let us use at least enough of them for our rear slots (so 4). Unlike turrets you give up an extra CrtD or Dmg mod to get the Arc firing angle.
Yes, I'd prefer them to treat omnis like turrets, too. Meaning give them turret damage and normal mods. Then there'd be no need for an equip restriction.
The Inhibiting Phaser when combined with the Ordnance Accelerator console gives phaser builds a 30% Cat 1 (20% from the console, 10% from the bonus) and the turn bonus. It may be Cat 1 but it's one of the better overall set bonuses for Phasers. I agree that I prefer the Trilithium for the 'Speed Tweaks' buff.. but they're both very good sets bonuses.
I really don't see what would be "overpowered" about it since, once again, cannons don't have that problem. I'm stacking set bonuses on top of stat bonuses on my Arbiter, because I use all but one weapon slot (I could even add that last one, as I previously said) to equip set pieces. If it was overly powerful to have that many bonuses on a cannon build, then no one would use beam builds, and they're clearly still powerful too. In fact, I'd go so far as to say it'd be more balanced to give beam boats the ability to get as many set bonuses as other ship builds.
^ this in a nutshell...would be no point in running anything else but omnis if it were possible...and would still put out decent dps unlike a turret ship.
As I've said from the beginning, all I'm trying to do is replace a crafted phaser beam array with a Trilithium omni-beam, which does less damage than the crafted phaser, and I'm going to be firing broadside anyway to get my third aft weapon on target. I am not suggesting they let us equip nothing but omni-beams, I am not suggesting multiple copies of a single type of omni-beam, I am simply suggesting that the "one unique item" restriction should not be the same restriction across ALL set piece omni-beams. Show me one instance of this being overpowered, especially in comparison with a cannon build with the same set bonuses, and I'll consider that it might not be a good change to make.
You can have one crafted as well as your Trilithium, for 2 Phaser Omni's. The only other Omni allowed is the Cutting Beam from Omega.
The rule is one crafted/lockbox omni, one Rep/mission Omni.
However, combat is already lazy as it is with it's non-sensical arcs and hardpoints, why make it worse??
Anyway, AFAIK, you are giving up one modifier for [ARC], so an 8 omni ship would do less damage an an 8 beam array ship broadsiding. (At least I think).
Little less damage for having 100% uptime is a pretty good tradeoff.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Thank you for the suggestion and bringing it to our attention.
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