I just can't get worked up about a ship that showed up on one episode, that's an imitation ship of a Starfleet vessel. The whole blurb in STO about it, if I remember right, is that the FED engineers thought it was a good design so copied the imitation. You think those engineers would be 100% faithful to the fake ship or that they'd NOT 'improve' upon it? HMMMMM?!?
And anyway, while I appreciate Eaglemoss cranking out a veritable buttload of ship models; IMO they aren't that great. Even their XL ones aren't worth the price. You'd be better off buying the version from Diamond Select/Art Asylum. Bigger, cheaper, and have lights/sounds!
Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
What I'm saying is, the only Dauntless in canon is a literal deathtrap, built by an alien who wanted the entire crew of the Voyager dead. A "canon-accurate" Dauntless would be more of a threat to you than any of the enemy, because you can escape them in your ship - but you can't escape your ship in your ship.
I always thought it was just his own ship (and not that he specifically built it). He just dressed it up as a modern Fed ship, as it were, with the holo particle thingy.
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Yea... I think it was his ship. Now the Borg have it.
What I'm saying is, the only Dauntless in canon is a literal deathtrap, built by an alien who wanted the entire crew of the Voyager dead. A "canon-accurate" Dauntless would be more of a threat to you than any of the enemy, because you can escape them in your ship - but you can't escape your ship in your ship.
I always thought it was just his own ship (and not that he specifically built it). He just dressed it up as a modern Fed ship, as it were, with the holo particle thingy.
B'Ellanna figured it out when she started poking the ship's innards. they weren't made of Fed stuff.
What I'm saying is, the only Dauntless in canon is a literal deathtrap, built by an alien who wanted the entire crew of the Voyager dead. A "canon-accurate" Dauntless would be more of a threat to you than any of the enemy, because you can escape them in your ship - but you can't escape your ship in your ship.
I always thought it was just his own ship (and not that he specifically built it). He just dressed it up as a modern Fed ship, as it were, with the holo particle thingy.
B'Ellanna figured it out when she started poking the ship's innards. they weren't made of Fed stuff.
I think it was actually Harry Kim, who hailed Tuvok, and said he "found something that qualifies as an anomaly." (Quoted from memory, but words to that effect)
Azrael, Rattler: sorry dudes but it’s semantics in this case as the model is not only extremely detailed in this case but lacks any distinguishable flaw beyond a seem. Which matter of production and has nothing to do with if the ship is accurate orca. There.
It’s a weak argument to hold and completely not the point of my post. I posted a review of the ship a few comments prior I suggest watching it and form a better argument.
Because of Enterprise it’s formally a federation ship so in the same way Discovery shoe horned it’s way in to being a thing because it’s in one scene with the enterprise in ESD (which isn’t even the same ship) having the shows producers acknowledge the ship specifically both on screen and off is more then enough to get your panties out of a bunch an accept it’s a canon fed ship.
Meier: it is his own ship he just used particle synthesis to mask it as a fed ship.
Jon: it wasn’t the ship that was the problem it was Arturis
Windows and seems are standard issues becuase they have them mass placed. Not concerened with that. Im talking the general Canonical shape and type of ship. As well as the sources they use to determine this. Youre point still goes unmade.
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Using the original designers work for reference. It sounds like youre just trying to nit pick.
As well this is a pretty good video to point out the proper canonical design the game doesn't seem to have for the Dauntless.
While I respect that a canonical look is very important to you (it is, after all, understandably, a big deal for a lot of ppl here), I honestly feel you probably picked the worst possible ship to get upset over. I mean, even after you showed us the mesh anomalies, I must admit I still hardly notice them.
As for canonical, in the sense of 'true to the orinal Fed design,' as others have pointed out, it wasn't a real Fed ship to begin with (likely 'fanwanked' into canon, later on, to have been recreated). So a few minor nacelle differences from what we saw on the show, I feel confident enough to say I can live with that.
Meime: I wouldn't say im complaining im just confused as to why it was released being so inaccurate. In addition the fans had nothing to do with it becoming a canon fed ship. That was all the Enterprise producers.Id add its not just the nacelles. Its the overall shape of the saucer section they rounded it when its very clearly pointed and the deflector housing is also rounded instead of pointed. Lastly the Federation pennant is observably large when its should be much smaller. Images for reference regarding shape of hull.
Reyan right there with ya man. The Nova needs some love but it came out at a time when stos future was eh. I expect more care from ships at a t6 level then I do from ships released back in the day. The Nova will more then likely be getting a t6 variant soon so I dont think you need to worry.
So the "canon" version would occasionally have a proc where the ship stops responding and transwarps to the nearest borg vessel. That could actually be fun the first few times...
I mean that has nothing to do with how it looks. You're thinking more abilities as we already have a particle synthesis console I think thats covered already.
The console completely makes your ship look like the dauntless. It literally redecorates your ship hull...but again that isnt the point of this thread. It's meant to focus on the inaccurate design of the ship in game.
None of which matters. This thread is about how inaccurate the Dauntless is designed in game and questioning if its even on the devs lists for a repass to make it more canon accurate. If you don't work for cryptic, for the sake of getting this thread back on track, please don't reply. Thank you.
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Dudes specifically just asked you not to reply unless you work at cryptic. Maybe they will maybe they won't but nothing anyone has said so far has much of any value to the actual point of my thread.
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rattler2Member, Star Trek Online ModeratorPosts: 58,434Community Moderator
Dudes specifically just asked you not to reply unless you work at cryptic. Maybe they will maybe they won't but nothing anyone has said so far has much of any value to the actual point of my thread.
Hey, you know what one of the fun things about public forums is? Literally anybody can reply to anybody else.
Dudes specifically just asked you not to reply unless you work at cryptic. Maybe they will maybe they won't but nothing anyone has said so far has much of any value to the actual point of my thread.
The point of your thread is baseless. The in game Dauntless is a Star Fleet recreation, and thus couldn't be canon, nor will it likely ever be.
Gotchya noted. However Rather have no activity on the thread then have the thread spinning out in to random opinions.
Kait: they very clearly say they have the actual specifications found in the Delta quadrant to the ship in universe. So an exact recreation is what they would do if anything. Not only that but every other alien ship they have put in game is accurate to how it was seen on screen. The number of inaccuracies(broken mesh under the nacelles, over all incorrect shape of the ship, missing phaser strips, incorrect hull design) suggests a rush job.
Jon: Stop being salty. Go tell your kids you love them.
Could easily be the case that the Starfleet replica Dauntless class is slightly altered due to the template ship (Arturis' ship) appear to NOT have a conventional warp drive - at least not if the MSD is to be beleved:
There was a scene where Torres was poking at what his ship used instead of a warp core. It was a glowing sphere the size of a basketball. Torres kinda said she had no idea how it worked and was eager to spend several days studying it.
If you choose not to see its the incorrect in game design thats your choice. No one can force you to live in reality.
Reyan: that would break the seemingly consistent effort sto makes to put canon accurate ships in game. If they wanted to change the design they usually address things like that as they did with the recon destroyer when all they did was add two phaser strips. This seems the case of it being a rushed job.
If you choose not to see its the incorrect in game design thats your choice. No one can force you to live in reality.
I don't see any issue here though I will give you some credit for finally posting at least one picture that shows the distorted texture clearly. I can live with that art error. The rest of the skin and the model looks just fine to me though.
Again side by sides for your other claimed problems are your friend.
When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
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And anyway, while I appreciate Eaglemoss cranking out a veritable buttload of ship models; IMO they aren't that great. Even their XL ones aren't worth the price. You'd be better off buying the version from Diamond Select/Art Asylum. Bigger, cheaper, and have lights/sounds!
I always thought it was just his own ship (and not that he specifically built it). He just dressed it up as a modern Fed ship, as it were, with the holo particle thingy.
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I think it was actually Harry Kim, who hailed Tuvok, and said he "found something that qualifies as an anomaly." (Quoted from memory, but words to that effect)
It’s a weak argument to hold and completely not the point of my post. I posted a review of the ship a few comments prior I suggest watching it and form a better argument.
Because of Enterprise it’s formally a federation ship so in the same way Discovery shoe horned it’s way in to being a thing because it’s in one scene with the enterprise in ESD (which isn’t even the same ship) having the shows producers acknowledge the ship specifically both on screen and off is more then enough to get your panties out of a bunch an accept it’s a canon fed ship.
Meier: it is his own ship he just used particle synthesis to mask it as a fed ship.
Jon: it wasn’t the ship that was the problem it was Arturis
While I respect that a canonical look is very important to you (it is, after all, understandably, a big deal for a lot of ppl here), I honestly feel you probably picked the worst possible ship to get upset over. I mean, even after you showed us the mesh anomalies, I must admit I still hardly notice them.
As for canonical, in the sense of 'true to the orinal Fed design,' as others have pointed out, it wasn't a real Fed ship to begin with (likely 'fanwanked' into canon, later on, to have been recreated). So a few minor nacelle differences from what we saw on the show, I feel confident enough to say I can live with that.
https://postimg.cc/image/f69y1ascb/ *ignore the red nacelle caps*
https://postimg.cc/image/q5v5d1ny3/
Reyan right there with ya man. The Nova needs some love but it came out at a time when stos future was eh. I expect more care from ships at a t6 level then I do from ships released back in the day. The Nova will more then likely be getting a t6 variant soon so I dont think you need to worry.
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Just for the record... I doubt they will directly respond to you in General Discussion. Maybe try the Feedback section of the forums.
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The point of your thread is baseless. The in game Dauntless is a Star Fleet recreation, and thus couldn't be canon, nor will it likely ever be.
Kait: they very clearly say they have the actual specifications found in the Delta quadrant to the ship in universe. So an exact recreation is what they would do if anything. Not only that but every other alien ship they have put in game is accurate to how it was seen on screen. The number of inaccuracies(broken mesh under the nacelles, over all incorrect shape of the ship, missing phaser strips, incorrect hull design) suggests a rush job.
Jon: Stop being salty. Go tell your kids you love them.
100% agreed. 3 pages in and I have yet to see anything to suggest that the in game model is anything but dead on accurate.
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here is how it looks in game https://postimg.cc/MfMnHfmk
Here are is the broken mesh between the nacelles https://postimg.cc/fSmM1cvb this appears on both sides.
Here are the missing phaser strips https://postimg.cc/FYWXWCQZ
Here is how its supose to looks in the same area: https://postimg.cc/TKPZDjWW
Here is the correct hull design: https://postimg.cc/8sP33BtX here is what we have in game: https://postimg.cc/Cdz7kvv0
If you choose not to see its the incorrect in game design thats your choice. No one can force you to live in reality.
Reyan: that would break the seemingly consistent effort sto makes to put canon accurate ships in game. If they wanted to change the design they usually address things like that as they did with the recon destroyer when all they did was add two phaser strips. This seems the case of it being a rushed job.
Again side by sides for your other claimed problems are your friend.