Promotional box is character bound, when you choose a Ship Box its free to trade between toons or sell on exchange. Once you open the box, that ship is bound to the toon that opens the box.
I must be in the minority, but i got 3 ships in the past 3 infinity promotions... buying no more than 8 boxes... mostly because i buy them for the lobi... let's see what i can get on this one, if anything at all, not really super interested in the ships (i got what i wanted), but i want a Walker class and i have no time to get enough EC for that... but lobi is my friend!
I must be in the minority, but i got 3 ships in the past 3 infinity promotions... buying no more than 8 boxes... mostly because i buy them for the lobi... let's see what i can get on this one, if anything at all, not really super interested in the ships (i got what i wanted), but i want a Walker class and i have no time to get enough EC for that... but lobi is my friend!
oh, if we could trade....
anyhow, you just probably had good luck on those times. o.o
I must be in the minority, but i got 3 ships in the past 3 infinity promotions... buying no more than 8 boxes... mostly because i buy them for the lobi... let's see what i can get on this one, if anything at all, not really super interested in the ships (i got what i wanted), but i want a Walker class and i have no time to get enough EC for that... but lobi is my friend!
oh, if we could trade....
anyhow, you just probably had good luck on those times. o.o
I must be in the minority, but i got 3 ships in the past 3 infinity promotions... buying no more than 8 boxes... mostly because i buy them for the lobi... let's see what i can get on this one, if anything at all, not really super interested in the ships (i got what i wanted), but i want a Walker class and i have no time to get enough EC for that... but lobi is my friend!
oh, if we could trade....
anyhow, you just probably had good luck on those times. o.o
That's a bloody miracle!
Actually... I got another one looking for lobi.. on my first 4 pack I'm still undecided of what to do with that ship pack, i think I'm going to sell it so i can get a few other ships that draw my attention, or get the universe... is the last "Enterprise" type ship that is missing in my collection.. as I said before, wasn't looking to get one..
Chances of winning the lottery are 1 in 175 million compared to 1 in 1000 for this promotion.
Oh sorry, Didn't know you were sarcasm impaired.
Oh my sarcasm detector works just fine, but facetiousness tends to get to me.
Let alone that the, "1 in 1000," is fake news & an opinion pulled out of the dark side of somewhere. No one knows the official odds because Cryptic won't publish them & whatever one thinks they've figured out on Tribble doesn't mean it is the same statistics on Holodeck. Casinos & the lottery has to give the actual odds for accountability & transparency reasons to be legal. So far, the gambling wanna be randomness which isn't randomness but lines of code to simulate randomness doesn't have to hold itself to that same standard of integrity in gaming, yet. So best to treat it as such.
So many people want this ship, and from a business side I get where this distribution method comes from, but it upsets a lot of people. I do not understand, however, why the odds don't stack up. It would allow access for people who are not born under every single lucky star in this universe and all possible parallel universes at once eventually without having to spend ridiculous amounts of credits. The good thing would be having the ship on Zen Store as a promo for a short amount of time, maybe 3-5 days.
So... what do you think are the odds? 1/1000 get a Req. Pack and the rest bonus Lobi?
I'll probably buy a few just for giggles.
People think wrongly when you say 1 in 1000 as they think are guaranteed a ship if they pull a thousand boxes. What people must understand is it's a percentage chance each box, THAT NEVER CHANGES! Just the same as only putting one line of the lottery each week, the odds of winning will never change! However, with boxes, you could win 10 ships from 10 boxes or none from a million.....and I tire of repeating this simple fact, and no, it's no legally gambling either because you are buying a product, not risking a real world stake for a real world asset with a real chance of losing it because you always come away with a product as per the terms and conditions agreed to.
"You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
Well, statistically, as far as I know, you should have one if you buy 1000 boxes, given the 1/1000 chances are correct. However, and I am with you there, "should have" is quite a far way from "have for sure". Mathematics is quite oddly disconnected from the real world sometimes...
That aside, has anyone ever seen someone with this ship? I have never seen one, neither has anyone I know, and I guess that tells a lot about odds of finding it, because no matter how rare, this is a ship you spot even in sector space or around ESD.
And, to admit guilt here, I am absolutely livid about the fact it is not possible to aquire THE most iconic Star Trek ship without cosmic amounts of good fortune. No, the T1 version does not count, since it only really helps you up to level 10. It might factor in that I was so stupid as to spend a 100 quid and all my EC here, only to get not even enogh Lobi to get any Lobi ship I do not want and do not care about. Joke's on me here, I guess, but as a fan of the franchise, at least the desire to have one might be understandable. And even the unusual streak of luck lasting for the last couple of weeks could not help here. Barring the core of a universe behind chances that by calling slim you do them an undeserved favour is just aggravating. Maybe this view changes once weeks have past, but right now it mostly hurts.
Well, statistically, as far as I know, you should have one if you buy 1000 boxes, given the 1/1000 chances are correct. However, and I am with you there, "should have" is quite a far way from "have for sure". Mathematics is quite oddly disconnected from the real world sometimes...
That aside, has anyone ever seen someone with this ship? I have never seen one, neither has anyone I know, and I guess that tells a lot about odds of finding it, because no matter how rare, this is a ship you spot even in sector space or around ESD.
And, to admit guilt here, I am absolutely livid about the fact it is not possible to aquire THE most iconic Star Trek ship without cosmic amounts of good fortune. No, the T1 version does not count, since it only really helps you up to level 10.
It might factor in that I was so stupid as to spend a 100 quid and all my EC here, only to get not even enogh Lobi to get any Lobi ship I do not want and do not care about. Joke's on me here, I guess, but as a fan of the franchise, at least the desire to have one might be understandable. And even the unusual streak of luck lasting for the last couple of weeks could not help here.
Barring the core of a universe behind chances that by calling slim you do them an undeserved favour is just aggravating. Maybe this view changes once weeks have past, but right now it mostly hurts.
I bought 13 boxes when the T6 Connie first came out and won one. When the Konnie came out I bought 70 Keys and won 2 Konnie's. I won the Crossfield and got the Walker from 60 Keys. In short, I'm a lucky so and so and won numerous ships from lockboxes and R&D boxes and the '1 in 250/1 in 1000' is just hogwash. Those that produce screenshots and videos of boxes from Tribble prove nothing. Observed odds are not proof of the ACTUAL odds the Dev's have programmed the RNG tables with.
"You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
Well, statistically, as far as I know, you should have one if you buy 1000 boxes, given the 1/1000 chances are correct. However, and I am with you there, "should have" is quite a far way from "have for sure". Mathematics is quite oddly disconnected from the real world sometimes...
That aside, has anyone ever seen someone with this ship? I have never seen one, neither has anyone I know, and I guess that tells a lot about odds of finding it, because no matter how rare, this is a ship you spot even in sector space or around ESD.
And, to admit guilt here, I am absolutely livid about the fact it is not possible to aquire THE most iconic Star Trek ship without cosmic amounts of good fortune. No, the T1 version does not count, since it only really helps you up to level 10.
It might factor in that I was so stupid as to spend a 100 quid and all my EC here, only to get not even enogh Lobi to get any Lobi ship I do not want and do not care about. Joke's on me here, I guess, but as a fan of the franchise, at least the desire to have one might be understandable. And even the unusual streak of luck lasting for the last couple of weeks could not help here.
Barring the core of a universe behind chances that by calling slim you do them an undeserved favour is just aggravating. Maybe this view changes once weeks have past, but right now it mostly hurts.
I bought 13 boxes when the T6 Connie first came out and won one. When the Konnie came out I bought 70 Keys and won 2 Konnie's. I won the Crossfield and got the Walker from 60 Keys. In short, I'm a lucky so and so and won numerous ships from lockboxes and R&D boxes and the '1 in 250/1 in 1000' is just hogwash. Those that produce screenshots and videos of boxes from Tribble prove nothing. Observed odds are not proof of the ACTUAL odds the Dev's have programmed the RNG tables with.
~shoves in a pile of EC and bats her lashes like in the old movies~
Ow....~squints~......how did those girls do that? >.O;;
> @leemwatson said: > I bought 13 boxes when the T6 Connie first came out and won one. When the Konnie came out I bought 70 Keys and won 2 Konnie's. I won the Crossfield and got the Walker from 60 Keys. In short, I'm a lucky so and so and won numerous ships from lockboxes and R&D boxes and the '1 in 250/1 in 1000' is just hogwash. Those that produce screenshots and videos of boxes from Tribble prove nothing. Observed odds are not proof of the ACTUAL odds the Dev's have programmed the RNG tables with.
Why is the concept of 'probability' so hard to grasp for people? Please, just hit wikipedia or something and read, then understand but don't write false claims due to lack of knowledge over and over and over <.<
Edit: To clarify, yes observed odds are not actual odds. That bit is correct, but the whole reasoning is nonsensical. Winning often doesn't mean the odds are different. You can win every single time you draw even when the odds are 1:1,000,000. The odds commonly assumed in the community were observed in repeated experiments with a rather large sample size, one instance of a 'lucky' player with a small sample size doesn't change these odds.
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> @leemwatson said:
> I bought 13 boxes when the T6 Connie first came out and won one. When the Konnie came out I bought 70 Keys and won 2 Konnie's. I won the Crossfield and got the Walker from 60 Keys. In short, I'm a lucky so and so and won numerous ships from lockboxes and R&D boxes and the '1 in 250/1 in 1000' is just hogwash. Those that produce screenshots and videos of boxes from Tribble prove nothing. Observed odds are not proof of the ACTUAL odds the Dev's have programmed the RNG tables with.
Why is the concept of 'probability' so hard to grasp for people? Please, just hit wikipedia or something and read, then understand but don't write false claims due to lack of knowledge over and over and over <.<
Edit: To clarify, yes observed odds are not actual odds. That bit is correct, but the whole reasoning is nonsensical. Winning often doesn't mean the odds are different. You can win every single time you draw even when the odds are 1:1,000,000. The odds commonly assumed in the community were observed in repeated experiments with a rather large sample size, one instance of a 'lucky' player with a small sample size doesn't change these odds.
Precisely my point, that I repeatedly reiterate. People throw around '1 in 250' when they should actually say it as a percentage chance. It's never 'you are guaranteed get one in any 250 boxes'. However, a Dev accidentally dropped it in a podcast a few years back that it's a 1% chance to win a top tier ship. Whilst this might have changed since T6 dropped, and ships coming in UR T6, VR T6, T5U & T5, I would say this is still true, but until Cryptic publishes the exact odds, no-one can prove or disprove it.
"You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
After YEARS of playing and spending money on this game, I gave up the first time they put the long awaited Tier 6 Connie in a fraking R&D package where you're bound to lose and all you get is some stupid crafting mats. Checking the forums and seeing this reminds me of the very reason I stopped playing (AND PAYING) in the first place. Perfect World is just as bad as EA.
After YEARS of playing and spending money on this game, I gave up the first time they put the long awaited Tier 6 Connie in a fraking R&D package where you're bound to lose and all you get is some stupid crafting mats. Checking the forums and seeing this reminds me of the very reason I stopped playing (AND PAYING) in the first place. Perfect World is just as bad as EA.
Nice signature pic. My only complaint is that they didn't expressly state that you don't get infinite r+d mats from an infinity box.
After YEARS of playing and spending money on this game, I gave up the first time they put the long awaited Tier 6 Connie in a fraking R&D package where you're bound to lose and all you get is some stupid crafting mats. Checking the forums and seeing this reminds me of the very reason I stopped playing (AND PAYING) in the first place. Perfect World is just as bad as EA.
EA weren't in anyway the first to do this as MMO's have done it long before EA have in a few of their multiplayer games, also TF2 was the first non-MMO multiplayer game to actually do this but for some bs reason they get a free pass.
After YEARS of playing and spending money on this game, I gave up the first time they put the long awaited Tier 6 Connie in a fraking R&D package where you're bound to lose and all you get is some stupid crafting mats. Checking the forums and seeing this reminds me of the very reason I stopped playing (AND PAYING) in the first place. Perfect World is just as bad as EA.
EA weren't in anyway the first to do this as MMO's have done it long before EA have in a few of their multiplayer games, also TF2 was the first non-MMO multiplayer game to actually do this but for some bs reason they get a free pass.
None of that matters. EA is &#@^ and so is Cryptic. The gravy train of my money stopped the moment this first happened. Not only have I not spent a dime since, I pretty much stopped playing as well. I know they dont care though, and neither does anyone else, but I just had to get it off my chest. Getting people to gamble for a limited time T6 Connie is massive sleaze.
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Promotional box is character bound, when you choose a Ship Box its free to trade between toons or sell on exchange. Once you open the box, that ship is bound to the toon that opens the box.
Please release the T6 Nagus in this box.
I'll probably buy a few just for giggles.
oh, if we could trade....
anyhow, you just probably had good luck on those times. o.o
That's a bloody miracle!
Oh my sarcasm detector works just fine, but facetiousness tends to get to me.
Actually... I got another one looking for lobi.. on my first 4 pack I'm still undecided of what to do with that ship pack, i think I'm going to sell it so i can get a few other ships that draw my attention, or get the universe... is the last "Enterprise" type ship that is missing in my collection.. as I said before, wasn't looking to get one..
Let alone that the, "1 in 1000," is fake news & an opinion pulled out of the dark side of somewhere. No one knows the official odds because Cryptic won't publish them & whatever one thinks they've figured out on Tribble doesn't mean it is the same statistics on Holodeck. Casinos & the lottery has to give the actual odds for accountability & transparency reasons to be legal. So far, the gambling wanna be randomness which isn't randomness but lines of code to simulate randomness doesn't have to hold itself to that same standard of integrity in gaming, yet. So best to treat it as such.
The good thing would be having the ship on Zen Store as a promo for a short amount of time, maybe 3-5 days.
People think wrongly when you say 1 in 1000 as they think are guaranteed a ship if they pull a thousand boxes. What people must understand is it's a percentage chance each box, THAT NEVER CHANGES! Just the same as only putting one line of the lottery each week, the odds of winning will never change! However, with boxes, you could win 10 ships from 10 boxes or none from a million.....and I tire of repeating this simple fact, and no, it's no legally gambling either because you are buying a product, not risking a real world stake for a real world asset with a real chance of losing it because you always come away with a product as per the terms and conditions agreed to.
That aside, has anyone ever seen someone with this ship? I have never seen one, neither has anyone I know, and I guess that tells a lot about odds of finding it, because no matter how rare, this is a ship you spot even in sector space or around ESD.
And, to admit guilt here, I am absolutely livid about the fact it is not possible to aquire THE most iconic Star Trek ship without cosmic amounts of good fortune. No, the T1 version does not count, since it only really helps you up to level 10.
It might factor in that I was so stupid as to spend a 100 quid and all my EC here, only to get not even enogh Lobi to get any Lobi ship I do not want and do not care about. Joke's on me here, I guess, but as a fan of the franchise, at least the desire to have one might be understandable. And even the unusual streak of luck lasting for the last couple of weeks could not help here.
Barring the core of a universe behind chances that by calling slim you do them an undeserved favour is just aggravating. Maybe this view changes once weeks have past, but right now it mostly hurts.
I bought 13 boxes when the T6 Connie first came out and won one. When the Konnie came out I bought 70 Keys and won 2 Konnie's. I won the Crossfield and got the Walker from 60 Keys. In short, I'm a lucky so and so and won numerous ships from lockboxes and R&D boxes and the '1 in 250/1 in 1000' is just hogwash. Those that produce screenshots and videos of boxes from Tribble prove nothing. Observed odds are not proof of the ACTUAL odds the Dev's have programmed the RNG tables with.
~shoves in a pile of EC and bats her lashes like in the old movies~
Ow....~squints~......how did those girls do that? >.O;;
> I bought 13 boxes when the T6 Connie first came out and won one. When the Konnie came out I bought 70 Keys and won 2 Konnie's. I won the Crossfield and got the Walker from 60 Keys. In short, I'm a lucky so and so and won numerous ships from lockboxes and R&D boxes and the '1 in 250/1 in 1000' is just hogwash. Those that produce screenshots and videos of boxes from Tribble prove nothing. Observed odds are not proof of the ACTUAL odds the Dev's have programmed the RNG tables with.
Why is the concept of 'probability' so hard to grasp for people? Please, just hit wikipedia or something and read, then understand but don't write false claims due to lack of knowledge over and over and over <.<
Edit: To clarify, yes observed odds are not actual odds. That bit is correct, but the whole reasoning is nonsensical. Winning often doesn't mean the odds are different. You can win every single time you draw even when the odds are 1:1,000,000. The odds commonly assumed in the community were observed in repeated experiments with a rather large sample size, one instance of a 'lucky' player with a small sample size doesn't change these odds.
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Precisely my point, that I repeatedly reiterate. People throw around '1 in 250' when they should actually say it as a percentage chance. It's never 'you are guaranteed get one in any 250 boxes'. However, a Dev accidentally dropped it in a podcast a few years back that it's a 1% chance to win a top tier ship. Whilst this might have changed since T6 dropped, and ships coming in UR T6, VR T6, T5U & T5, I would say this is still true, but until Cryptic publishes the exact odds, no-one can prove or disprove it.
Nice signature pic. My only complaint is that they didn't expressly state that you don't get infinite r+d mats from an infinity box.
None of that matters. EA is &#@^ and so is Cryptic. The gravy train of my money stopped the moment this first happened. Not only have I not spent a dime since, I pretty much stopped playing as well. I know they dont care though, and neither does anyone else, but I just had to get it off my chest. Getting people to gamble for a limited time T6 Connie is massive sleaze.