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Lowest Dil/Zen rate in years - Did you Buy any Zen during Pheonix Event ?
taylor1701d
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Just curious if anybody on here took the opportunity to pick up some cheap Zen during The Phoenix Pack Event ?
Snapped up 5k worth myself @273 D to Z.
Snapped up 5k worth myself @273 D to Z.
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10,000 Zen on my primary account @ 271:1. Gonna use it to buy back refined Dil when the exchange rate goes back up. Hopefully my "profit" will cover the Dil I burnt to buy Phoenix Packs.
About 450 Zen on my secondary free2play only account @ 271:1. That wiped out the meager refined Dil on that account.
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and one year ago the price was exactly as is now.
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I don't even have anything in the store that I want, I just figured it was a good time to pick up some Zen.
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I was not around in those days but I am going to take a guess it was ALOT harder to get dil back then. Right?
nope, foundrys... investigate officer reports... no cd... and many others stuffs...
old days... news days... no difference... I'm done here.
Oh, plenty of people complained about the price - but it was the opposite direction. Zen sellers (buy zen, exchange for Dil) were always going on about how the economy was going in the toilet ever since the exchange had dropped below 300, and that the game was obviously Doomed™.
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I got a few hundred zen, couldn't go much for much more since I was short on Dil after spending some on Phoenix boxes and not having really stocked back up since the last summer sale & Black Friday c-store purchases.
It was actually kinda easy if you knew what to do. On top of that, the vast majority (if not all) of Fleets were still working to complete fleet projects and there were a lot of projects to work on. That meant there was a pretty big demand for Dil in Fleets. Once fleets were close to completing all the available projects, the demand for Dil fell and the Dil to Zen exchange rate began to climb.
I stared playing STO back in January 2014 and the lowest I ever recall seeing the exchange rate was 117:1. I started out as a free2play player and I was looking around for ways to earn Dil when I understood the significance of it (which did not take very long). My primary sources were:
#1 - Turn in Contraband for 2,000 Dil - This mission originally had a 4 hour cooldown. As of July 2016 the mission now has a 20 hour cooldown. I used to queue up this mission in the morning before going to work and in the evening after getting home from work and before going to bed. That's an easy 6,000 Dil within a 24 hour period as long as I had enough Contraband, which I did.
#2 - There used to be a repeatable mission (every 30 minutes) called Investigate Officer Reports it was removed earlier this year because Cryptic decided it was an exploit... which it was. Basically you would accept this mission and then do a Foundry mission (unofficial community created missions). When you complete the Foundry mission, you turn in Investigate Officer Reports to get 960 Dil... and this can be repeated every 30 minutes. Originally the reward was 1,440 Dil but that was reduced to 960 Dil back in December 2012 over a year before I started playing.
#3 - Foundry Missions - These reward you with Dil. The amount Dil rewarded depended on the mission you decide to play. I think it depended on the average amount of time it took players to complete the mission and how long it actually takes you to do the mission. I think the minimum reward is 480 Dil, while the maximum is 3,000 Dil. Actually many Foundry missions did not reward Dil, these are the "Farming Missions" such as parking your ship in one spot to kill ships that would appear in front of you (usually with shields down). These are not story driven mission, thus they offer no Dil reward. The Spotlight Foundry missions are the ones that could reward up to 3,000 Dil. These are high quality story driven missions that have received a lot of praise so they have been upgraded from a standard Foundry Mission to a Spotlight Foundry Mission.
Completing #2 and #3 can basically net me 4K Dil (rounded up). Plus doing #1 three times a day meant I was able to pull in 10k per day, per captain without much effort. The Spotlight Foundry Missions typically takes between 25 to 40 minutes to complete depending on which one I want to play... and I play the one where I can get 3,000 Dil (by trying out different missions). And #2 and #3 are repeatable.
This excludes doing any of the STF reputation missions which basically rewarded 720 Dil back then.
It was not unusual for me to pull in 10k Dil - 12k Dil per captain on a weekday. On a weekend / holiday I was probably able to get up to 18k Dil per day if I had the time to devote to the game, but I usually went out. I don't pull in that much Dil per captain anymore since I now have more than double the number captains and I am not as focused on obtaining as much Dil as possible.
Nevertheless, being able to do the Contraband mission every 4 hours instead of every 20 hours made obtaining Dil extremely easy. The 960 Dil reward for doing the Investigate Officer Reports with only a 30 minute cooldown also made it pretty easy to collect Dil. Doing two of these missions and two Spotlight Foundry Missions would have netted 8k Dil (rounded up) in about 60 minutes to 90 minutes depending on the Spotlight Foundry Missions I select.
To me, getting Dil now takes longer than it did in the past and Fleets are no longer devouring as much Dil as they have done in the past because nearly all of them have completed the vast majority of available fleet projects.
To answer the question posed here - yes - i traded about 12,000 - a lot at 272. It was a dream come true for me. And there is nothing I plan to buy. Just wanted to get a little value from all those years of accumulating. Also bought about 200 boxes. Still have 11 million refined. Feel very good about the phoenix. Well done and thank you.
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Once again, per the devs those costumes were never intended as a sink. There are a small number of players with enough dil to disrupt the exchange. The costumes were made to see if these few players were willing to spend some of their horde. The rest of us were just incidental.
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BRING BACK THE PHOENIX BOXES QUICKLY!
See, I am truly begging and using the correct name instead of my parody name of Phonics Boxes.
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l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
And you're right, it really hasn't been that long since we've seen these prices, has it ? Guess I've gotten used to seeing it hover around 400, that 250d/z Sure feels like a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.
I started in 2012 Jan. Didn't use the d/z exchange until LoR was about to be released. So I've not had my eye on it as much as others over the years.
I don't normally speculate with the markets. But this felt like a sure thing.
Wonder what else they could do to keep it sub 400.
I would imagine everyone will go back to building up their refined stockpiles as we were doing before.. I don't think it'll be long until we're back to where we were. Hopefully K-13 upgrading may help a little in slowing down the rise in price.
Maybe they'll think of other concepts for Dil Boxes, and we'll see a couple different iterations. They have a lot of potential.
They could literally add anything they wanted to them... so they have options.
Would like to see the Phoenix Event run twice a year, winter and summer events.
Only thing, they will have to keep adding new items to it to keep it interesting and fresh. Otherwise those of us who bought everything in this edition will not feel the need to invest as heavily in them next time around (if they ever come back).
I guess that's one good thing about the UR/Epics being hard to get. People still need their event ships.
So those who missed events will always have a good reason to buy them.
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