If everyone treats the TOS Constitution the same way they treated the Kelvin Constitution then the ship will be available on the exchange for a reasonable price. (the Kelvin Constitution is about 50 bucks right now)
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Instead of Rage restraint is called for.
Let's be realistic here. The prices on the Exchange are not "reasonable". They're classic capitalistic styled "supply & demand". Anyone wanting to save up enough EC must first purchase the 500Z cap removal. The Dil to Zen exchange rate continues to increase, which means more grinding for individuals.
Restraint isn't what's called for when a system engages the broken version of a capitalistic system rather than the one envisioned.
Trendy can please tell me why you guys are putting this T6 23c stuff in a promo box instead of the zen store? Just curious and a little miffed by all this. I'd really appreciate it. Uh Trendy and/or Devs I'd like a response please thank you like ASAP please thanks seriously.
I have a feeling the only way that CBS would agree to a T6 TOS/TMP Connie' is a one time event, with a small enough percentage chance , that would keep the distribution small.
Are you f*cking serious? There's no way these old, outdated and completely useless ships should have ever reached Tier 6.
There's no need to do things like that just because some **** are demanding it, intelligent people should know that these ships are far to weak for the 25th century.
Amen. It'd be like asking for a turbo charged Yugo in a racing game. Why stop there? I want a T6 space shuttle and a T6 aircraft carrier, because those were also relics that happened to be named Enterprise.
Completely, agreed, this is absolutely disgusting and IMO the worst thing Cryptic has EVER done to the fans.
The one ship that has been the most heavily requested in the entire history of the game, and they lock it behind a bloody limited-time gambling wall.
At least the Kelvin stuff is here to stay with infinity lockboxes and what not, but R&D promo's are extremely far and few between, but somehow I highly doubt this R&D promo will "ever" return again.
If Cryptic had any sense of Common decency they would have made it a TOS faction exclusive T6 ship instead of this travesty which just flies in the face of the fans.
The bolded reveals the inherent cruelty in that request however. This was announced almost concurrent with the END of the Agents of Yesterday event. Anyone who missed the initial announcement and wanted a T6 Connie but DIDN'T create a Temporal Agent would be locked out of getting the T6 Connie forever.
Your living in a dream world. This does not even exist in the realm of possibility.
F2p games thrive off whales rather than the average player. These so-called whales are a small subset of rich people that can literally afford anything, and they don't give a damn about anyone else than their own satisfaction, and they are also the only ones greedy corporations care about.
Interesting point of view. Were you to own your own business, would you cater to those customers who can afford your product(s), thereby keeping you and your business profitable or focus on people who cannot afford your product(s)?
The opposing option is to lower the bar of entry so more people could actually afford the product thereby spreading the buyer base across a larger spectrum.
Were I to own my own business I would not try to artificially inflate prices of my products to exclude what would most likely be my largest customer base.
In general in F2P games:
- the majority of players don't pay at all
- the majority of the rest pay less 5$ a month
- such level of payments alone would make any MMO unsustainable.
The MMOs is highly competitive nowadays. P2P is slowly dying being unable to hold its own against F2P model, mobile games, etc, etc
The result - without relying on so called "whales" transactions an F2P can't exist AT ALL at the current games' market. Period.
It's not about greed - it's about evolution of the gaming market and changes in gamers' preferences.
This is true, but that fact of the model was not accounted for in his question.
Iconians: "Cryptic could not possibly troll the playerbase more after shoving the Kelvin Timeline Connie in a lockbox."
Cryptic: "Challenge accepted. Here's a T6 Nagus Marauder for players with unwavering loyalty."
Iconians: "Okay... so they can't possibly troll the playerbase more after the T6 Nagus Marauder."
Cryptic: "Challenge accepted. Here's some much-requested costumes and they cost a ridiculous amount of refined dilithium to claim as single-character items."
Iconians: "Okay, wow... so they can't possibly troll the playerbase further after--"
Cryptic: "We're just gonna stop you right there, Iconians. Here's a T6 Connie, and it's in an R&D Promo box. The D7 and T'Liss warbird too."
Iconians: "... okay, I'm just going to shut the **** up."
That is wise. These *&*%^%$%$#!! are clearly on a different level.
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The opposing option is to lower the bar of entry so more people could actually afford the product thereby spreading the buyer base across a larger spectrum.
People with enough EC can buy these off the exchange without ever having to spend a single dime of real money. That's getting the ship for zero real dollars. Is that "affordable" enough?
Actually ... There are none on the exchange. Going rate is 1 billion EC in private trade channels. ... If one is lucky.
With it at 20% off, this may get me to buy some. I was at first very hesitant. With this, I think I can buy 5 of them. I have to look to be confirmed. IF so, then I will get some to try. IF I don't get the ship. At least I will have enough for a lobi gun. So that can help make up for it.
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Are you f*cking serious? There's no way these old, outdated and completely useless ships should have ever reached Tier 6.
There's no need to do things like that just because some **** are demanding it, intelligent people should know that these ships are far to weak for the 25th century.
Amen. It'd be like asking for a turbo charged Yugo in a racing game. Why stop there? I want a T6 space shuttle and a T6 aircraft carrier, because those were also relics that happened to be named Enterprise.
who CARES?
Let's see, what HAVE we got in the T6 category:
Excelsior: OLD
Galaxy: OLD
T'Varo: VERY OLD
Daedalus: VERY OLD
Bird of Prey: OLD
D'Deridex: OLD
To me, only guys like Comic Book guy from the Simpsons would CARE of the age for ships in STO....it's supposed to be a fun game....not a debate of "this is too old, this is too weak!" nonsense. Take that broomstick out of your behinds and chill out.
$32 later and all I have to show or it are 160 lobi crystals that I'll never use, and 16 R&D Packs that'll go to waste. Oh well. This is why I don't gamble. I suck at it! If anyone ends up with a T6 Connie that they're willing to part with, I'm willing to negotiate a trade.
I bought 8 packs and got it on the 6th one. Don't care for old ships will most likely sell it and maybe buy multiple dreadnoughts or something. I don't keep these lockbox type ships because they aren't account wide and I have 22 characters. I prefer to buy c-store unlocks but I had 1600 promo zen lying around and decided to buy the R&D packs. To be honest I haven't played the game seriously in months except to get my summer and winter ship unlocks.
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Let's be realistic here. The prices on the Exchange are not "reasonable". They're classic capitalistic styled "supply & demand". Anyone wanting to save up enough EC must first purchase the 500Z cap removal. The Dil to Zen exchange rate continues to increase, which means more grinding for individuals.
Restraint isn't what's called for when a system engages the broken version of a capitalistic system rather than the one envisioned.
Trendy can please tell me why you guys are putting this T6 23c stuff in a promo box instead of the zen store? Just curious and a little miffed by all this. I'd really appreciate it. Uh Trendy and/or Devs I'd like a response please thank you like ASAP please thanks seriously.
DELTA PRICE RISING
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...Well then. This isn't how I expected this to happen.
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Yep i expected alot more nerd rage and forum fires tbh O.o
Why?
Most who would of been outraged have probably left the game. All Cryptic & PWE care about is a quick buck.
Thank you for the time...
Cryptic, would you actulaly like me to spend actual Money? It's Simple:
There's probably more rage about it on facebook trust me I saw lots of that.
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Amen. It'd be like asking for a turbo charged Yugo in a racing game. Why stop there? I want a T6 space shuttle and a T6 aircraft carrier, because those were also relics that happened to be named Enterprise.
The bolded reveals the inherent cruelty in that request however. This was announced almost concurrent with the END of the Agents of Yesterday event. Anyone who missed the initial announcement and wanted a T6 Connie but DIDN'T create a Temporal Agent would be locked out of getting the T6 Connie forever.
The opposing option is to lower the bar of entry so more people could actually afford the product thereby spreading the buyer base across a larger spectrum.
This is true, but that fact of the model was not accounted for in his question.
You believe that consumer trust is irrelevant?
That is wise. These *&*%^%$%$#!! are clearly on a different level.
No, you just will not be able to open the box yet.
Actually ... There are none on the exchange. Going rate is 1 billion EC in private trade channels. ... If one is lucky.
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who CARES?
Let's see, what HAVE we got in the T6 category:
Excelsior: OLD
Galaxy: OLD
T'Varo: VERY OLD
Daedalus: VERY OLD
Bird of Prey: OLD
D'Deridex: OLD
To me, only guys like Comic Book guy from the Simpsons would CARE of the age for ships in STO....it's supposed to be a fun game....not a debate of "this is too old, this is too weak!" nonsense. Take that broomstick out of your behinds and chill out.
done that before
Gonna play the lottery tomorrow
Do you want me to shank you now or later?
Some men just want to watch the world burn! XD
Saw someone bring a shuttle into a Borg alert once.
Hilarity ensued.
Yea but now people will think it's T6. XD
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