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    roebotsixtyfiveroebotsixtyfive Member Posts: 286 Arc User
    questerius wrote: »
    Something just occurred to me: Is it April 1st?

    No. But this would've made an infinitely better April Fools joke than Playable Horta (or Rebirth, which was more than just a blog post, Redshirt went back to launch for the day).
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    If you can't solve it logically, solve it like a moron.

    51 + 1 Foundry Character Slots is NOT enough. Some of us love our characters. If I want to buy more character slots, why can't I? I couldn't experience the entire Delta Recruitment event without deleting a character.

    The Iconians themselves can't time travel because their memories revert, but there is nothing to say an Iconian couldn't write everything she needed to do on a PADD, pin it to herself, travel back, read the PADD, do the tasks and return. Or just get one of her Non-Herald underlings to go back in time for her.

    Want a Star Trek themed starship command fan-made Board Game that isn't fiendishly complicated but not so easy it's a joke? Download mine for free here. https://roebot56.deviantart.com/art/BOARD-GAME-R56-s-Starship-Command-STAR-TREK-Edn-682732468 A Stargate version of the game is available from a link in the description.

    Oh yeah, I do Foundry missions for both KDFs and Feds. Just search KSTF (Short for Kinas Special Task Force, where Kinas is the name of the Admiral you will be serving under). The earlier ones are less story based and more combat based, while the later ones have a much heavier story element, but keep the large battles.
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    orion0029orion0029 Member Posts: 1,122 Bug Hunter
    ... :(

    Damn.

    There goes my hopes for a C-Store T6 connie. Doubtful it'll show up there, even a TMP T6 connie is very unlikely now.

    <Sarcasm>
    Thanks, Cryptic.
    </Sarcasm>

    <Not Sarcasm/snippy>
    Can't say I'm surprised, though. I guess people who play by the seat of their wallet will be happy (those who are lucky anyway), and those who are space-rich. Good for them. :)
    </Not Sarcasm/snippy>
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    cidstormcidstorm Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
    Being special event ships is a double edged sword that may yet dull upon self infliction. Cryptic is absolutely not going to be able to get away with making the most iconic faction ships in Star Trek underpowered when they come in a R&D pack like the Jem bug.

    Also, thanks to this new wave of end game ships with multiple acquisition methods we could see a more FTP friendly release in the C-Store.

    Hopefully this won't exasperate the innate pains of gambling ships and balance while giving both the devs and the people what they want.

    Can the C-store Tier 6 T'Varo use the T'liss skin now?
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    officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    You guys realize that the T6 Constitution class is the holy grail of Star Trek Online right?
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    tousseautousseau Member Posts: 1,484 Arc User
    I wonder if we will get a "Corbomite Maneuver" console/trait with the new Connie...
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    lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    Well... s#*t. ~6.5 years playing this game, during the first ~2yrs of which I was one of the people begging for an End Game Connie (my personal favorite flavor is the version from TMP). But Cryptic continually, and in no uncertain terms, always said there was no way it would ever happen, so I gave up.

    Clearly never say never. lol

    I've flown ships that I've done my best to make look like this including the Excel, a kit-bashed Presidio, and most recently I even happened to win the Kelvin Connie (on my 3rd box/key). And now ...This.

    I have mixed thoughts and emotions. I feel a little betrayal. I feel a little like an abused customer. A little mad, frustrated, and even confused. ...But... Well... Honestly... Mostly, I'm happy.

    I can't help but be pleased at the business practice. Looking at it from an Earnings stand point, this was so well played. Release a similar ship (the Kelvin Connie) in a hard-to-get (ie expensive) fashion, give that time to settle down... and *THEN* release the true Connie, in an even more hard-to-get (ie more expensive) manner. It's quite brilliant! Cryptic might lose some customers, tick-off many more... But ultimately Trekkies(ers if you prefer) pet the FANATIC in fandom. Most are mad crazy about this IP, and will spend money on Trek the way an addict does on their drug of choice.

    I'm happy this will be more money in the game's coffers, more likely the game to stay around, and continue to grow and update.

    Ultimately, I'm just happy the true Connie will be in game. I'll have to figure out a way to get it... I've got a bunch of dil, and even some left over zen. Will probably just look to buy it off the exchange... Maybe I'll open a couple R&D Packs...

    So now the only question... Ship stats, please?

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    roebotsixtyfiveroebotsixtyfive Member Posts: 286 Arc User

    I was watching for such a pack to happen so I could grab it right away, even though I'm currently not playing STO, but this does nothing to get me interested in logging in again, in fact it makes me less likely to do so anytime soon. First the Nagus fiasco, then the outrageous dilithium costs on the new uniforms, and now this ... Cryptic is doing a great job of spitting on their players right now.

    Well, those other two I'd label as exceptional blunders. Here I think Cryptic's just playing by rules we knew existed. Honestly, I think the more interesting question is why didn't Cryptic try a TOS Constitution/D7 RNG pack shortly after these things first started (how far back did promo planning for the 50th anniversary go?)

    The Nagus and Dil-Store Outfit pricing were disasters. This is totally legit. I can't help but be amazed it even happened after all those years of CBS saying no. The terms were probably something like this... "OK! We give up! You can have an end-game grade Constitution from the Prime Universe. BUT! Only if you implement in such a way that it won't be absolutely everywhere."

    I do find it funny as well that after all the years of wanting an end-game Connie, some people are bitching because it's being implemented in a way that makes it Very Rare (if we count C-Store as Common, Event (Summer, Winter, Anniversary) as Uncommon, Lockbox (including the likes of the Vonph and Acheros) and Lobi as Rare, and R&D as Very Rare). I like ship diversity, it's why I don't visit New Romulus (AKA Scimitar Central) very often.
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    If you can't solve it logically, solve it like a moron.

    51 + 1 Foundry Character Slots is NOT enough. Some of us love our characters. If I want to buy more character slots, why can't I? I couldn't experience the entire Delta Recruitment event without deleting a character.

    The Iconians themselves can't time travel because their memories revert, but there is nothing to say an Iconian couldn't write everything she needed to do on a PADD, pin it to herself, travel back, read the PADD, do the tasks and return. Or just get one of her Non-Herald underlings to go back in time for her.

    Want a Star Trek themed starship command fan-made Board Game that isn't fiendishly complicated but not so easy it's a joke? Download mine for free here. https://roebot56.deviantart.com/art/BOARD-GAME-R56-s-Starship-Command-STAR-TREK-Edn-682732468 A Stargate version of the game is available from a link in the description.

    Oh yeah, I do Foundry missions for both KDFs and Feds. Just search KSTF (Short for Kinas Special Task Force, where Kinas is the name of the Admiral you will be serving under). The earlier ones are less story based and more combat based, while the later ones have a much heavier story element, but keep the large battles.
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    duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,871 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    You guys realize that the T6 Constitution class is the holy grail of Star Trek Online right?

    For some people. Personally I'm on a quest for a T6 Sovereign class and I know some are looking for a T6 Vor'cha, Nova, or Vesta. And for a long time we had people scouring the countryside for T6 Galaxy X, Oddy, B'rel, and Scimitars. Vengeance? Yeah, that was a top request for a few people too.

    All us various questers meet up in a place called Camelot. Tis quite silly.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    It would be more funny if they made them the only T7 ships in game ever.
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    szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    You guys realize that the T6 Constitution class is the holy grail of Star Trek Online right?

    For some people. Personally I'm on a quest for a T6 Sovereign class and I know some are looking for a T6 Vor'cha, Nova, or Vesta. And for a long time we had people scouring the countryside for T6 Galaxy X, Oddy, B'rel, and Scimitars. Vengeance? Yeah, that was a top request for a few people too.

    All us various questers meet up in a place called Camelot. Tis quite silly.

    Since they now even put prime universe faction ships into prize boxes, I honestly expect the T6 Souvereign to be in one of those as well. Nothing is impossible anymore...
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    horridpersonhorridperson Member Posts: 665 Arc User
    Constitution and D7; Sweet. Will I manage to acquire one? Odds are low but there is always a chance. Lots of of sour grapes from the willfully naive. Did you really think it would have been any other way?
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    davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,524 Arc User
    Hopefully they will have Command seating so they are easier to ignore :)
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    roebotsixtyfiveroebotsixtyfive Member Posts: 286 Arc User
    You guys realize that the T6 Constitution class is the holy grail of Star Trek Online right?

    For some people. Personally I'm on a quest for a T6 Sovereign class and I know some are looking for a T6 Vor'cha, Nova, or Vesta. And for a long time we had people scouring the countryside for T6 Galaxy X, Oddy, B'rel, and Scimitars. Vengeance? Yeah, that was a top request for a few people too.

    All us various questers meet up in a place called Camelot. Tis quite silly.

    I sense a T6 Sovereign coming with a T6 Vor'cha and a T6 Dhelan (because Romulans have a habit of getting the raw deal in these 3 packs) with this http://sto.gamepedia.com/Ability:_Projected_Stasis_Beam as their console ability. Maybe some time near winter when AoY is over but before the lull of winter arrives, when story content starts flowing again and the console release is done.

    T6 Nova is likely a slim chance, as for some reason it was relegated to T2 (probably because it's tiny) despite it being a modern ship with it's refit (Rhode Island) being still in service in 2410.

    T6 Vesta is a no from what I've heard. Unless the strange situation surrounded the Vesta is resolved.
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    If you can't solve it logically, solve it like a moron.

    51 + 1 Foundry Character Slots is NOT enough. Some of us love our characters. If I want to buy more character slots, why can't I? I couldn't experience the entire Delta Recruitment event without deleting a character.

    The Iconians themselves can't time travel because their memories revert, but there is nothing to say an Iconian couldn't write everything she needed to do on a PADD, pin it to herself, travel back, read the PADD, do the tasks and return. Or just get one of her Non-Herald underlings to go back in time for her.

    Want a Star Trek themed starship command fan-made Board Game that isn't fiendishly complicated but not so easy it's a joke? Download mine for free here. https://roebot56.deviantart.com/art/BOARD-GAME-R56-s-Starship-Command-STAR-TREK-Edn-682732468 A Stargate version of the game is available from a link in the description.

    Oh yeah, I do Foundry missions for both KDFs and Feds. Just search KSTF (Short for Kinas Special Task Force, where Kinas is the name of the Admiral you will be serving under). The earlier ones are less story based and more combat based, while the later ones have a much heavier story element, but keep the large battles.
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    captaind3captaind3 Member Posts: 2,449 Arc User
    captaind3 wrote: »
    So THAT'S what those pigs with jetpacks going by this morning was all about. I thought it was just a race or something.

    watch your mouth, you racist <censored>! those are tellarites​​

    How dare you? YOU are the racist sir I was referring specifically to Terran Pigs Sus scrofa domesticus. Not good Tellarite citizens on vacation on Risa! The nerve.
    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    Well played Cryptic, well played.

    Get people desperate for a Connie to sell their souls for a Kelvin version to "make do" and then release the real version a few months later. And to top it all, put it in a lottery with worse odds than the lockboxes. Nice.

    What annoys me most is that the dilex was just getting back to sensible prices and then they go shove a firework up it yet again. I get they want to make money I really do but a healthy exchange in favour of dil sellers surely encourages spending to some degree. I know from my point of view I'll never pay full price for a ship at 3000z, but I'd go half n' half on one with a favourable exchange rate.
    Not a chance in hell of that with current exchange prices.

    Agreed.
    Did the Connie refit get a facelift as well? Hoping that @crypticttc was able to spruce up the model.
    It does look better doesn't it?
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    qbecks7 wrote: »
    Are you f*cking serious? There's no way these old, outdated and completely useless ships should have ever reached Tier 6.
    There's no need to do things like that just because some **** are demanding it, intelligent people should know that these ships are far to weak for the 25th century.

    You sound Klingon.

    No, the basic D-7 hull was still in use during the Dominion War. Klingons are big on re-using old hulls.

    I'm fairly certain those were just K'Tinga's.

    Well... s#*t. ~6.5 years playing this game, during the first ~2yrs of which I was one of the people begging for an End Game Connie (my personal favorite flavor is the version from TMP). But Cryptic continually, and in no uncertain terms, always said there was no way it would ever happen, so I gave up.

    Clearly never say never. lol

    I've flown ships that I've done my best to make look like this including the Excel, a kit-bashed Presidio, and most recently I even happened to win the Kelvin Connie (on my 3rd box/key). And now ...This.

    I have mixed thoughts and emotions. I feel a little betrayal. I feel a little like an abused customer. A little mad, frustrated, and even confused. ...But... Well... Honestly... Mostly, I'm happy.

    I can't help but be pleased at the business practice. Looking at it from an Earnings stand point, this was so well played. Release a similar ship (the Kelvin Connie) in a hard-to-get (ie expensive) fashion, give that time to settle down... and *THEN* release the true Connie, in an even more hard-to-get (ie more expensive) manner. It's quite brilliant! Cryptic might lose some customers, tick-off many more... But ultimately Trekkies(ers if you prefer) pet the FANATIC in fandom. Most are mad crazy about this IP, and will spend money on Trek the way an addict does on their drug of choice.

    I'm happy this will be more money in the game's coffers, more likely the game to stay around, and continue to grow and update.

    Ultimately, I'm just happy the true Connie will be in game. I'll have to figure out a way to get it... I've got a bunch of dil, and even some left over zen. Will probably just look to buy it off the exchange... Maybe I'll open a couple R&D Packs...

    So now the only question... Ship stats, please?

    Hmm. By contrast, I've never once wanted a T5 or 6 Constitution class....so I won't even care. So I'm also...happy. I don't have to spend money, and all of you guys who wanted it get a shot at your number one most wanted ship. And so I wait patiently for my T6 Sovereign's turn to be released.


    You guys realize that the T6 Constitution class is the holy grail of Star Trek Online right?

    For some people. Personally I'm on a quest for a T6 Sovereign class and I know some are looking for a T6 Vor'cha, Nova, or Vesta. And for a long time we had people scouring the countryside for T6 Galaxy X, Oddy, B'rel, and Scimitars. Vengeance? Yeah, that was a top request for a few people too.

    All us various questers meet up in a place called Camelot. Tis quite silly.

    Well it can't really be helped. After all Q built the thing.
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    jcswwjcsww Member Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    This is going to be a love/hate thing for me. The T6 Prime Universe TOS Connie and the KDF D7... I love these ships but damn, that price is going to suck! :P
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    duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,871 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    szim wrote: »

    Since they now even put prime universe faction ships into prize boxes, I honestly expect the T6 Souvereign to be in one of those as well. Nothing is impossible anymore...

    I don't, it'd be silly. Cryptic's main business is still lock boxes and c-store ships. That's what's release most frequently, that's what they headline big content updates with, they still need new content there. T6 sovy fits in just as well as a T6 Avenger or Galaxy. No justification is necessary.

    Here we have a new promo set, launching at the tail end (presumably) of AOY, using special ships that we knew CBS had made off-limits to a general release. It's way too soon to take this as a new and enduring format for all notable content (it certainly wasn't the case after the Jem strike fighter or Voth Bulwark. Things moved on just fine.)
    I sense a T6 Sovereign coming with a T6 Vor'cha and a T6 Dhelan (because Romulans have a habit of getting the raw deal in these 3 packs) .

    Possibly but I still wouldn't bet on that happening for a little while. Cryptic's splurged heavily on iconography recently so to use up their last T6 hero ship revamp as a 2016 footnote (and right after a T6 connie) doesn't really strike me as terribly likely (I also don't think the boff powers for the temporal spec are a great fit.)

    If there's something else coming to the c-store this year, what I'd bet is a miscellaneous 3-pack of 26th century FED/KDF/ROM ships. Maybe new designs, maybe revamps of less popular ships (ex. Patrol Escort, with some of the parts you can already pull off a "primitive Enterprise J" configuration), but nothing hugely noteworthy.
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    qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    szim wrote: »
    You guys realize that the T6 Constitution class is the holy grail of Star Trek Online right?

    For some people. Personally I'm on a quest for a T6 Sovereign class and I know some are looking for a T6 Vor'cha, Nova, or Vesta. And for a long time we had people scouring the countryside for T6 Galaxy X, Oddy, B'rel, and Scimitars. Vengeance? Yeah, that was a top request for a few people too.

    All us various questers meet up in a place called Camelot. Tis quite silly.

    Since they now even put prime universe faction ships into prize boxes, I honestly expect the T6 Souvereign to be in one of those as well. Nothing is impossible anymore...

    Oh, but it's a lot more"devious" than that, they put Temporal in the name,so it's not really a Prime Universe ship... :p

    As usual I feel sorry for the people who might not be able to get the iconic ship they love to play with, you know small customers wallets matter too. :(
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    ikonn#1068 ikonn Member Posts: 1,449 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    As much as I wanted a T-6 K't'inga, definitely not like this. My money is going somewhere else this time. So take your R&D Packs and insert them somewhere.
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    swamarianswamarian Member Posts: 1,506 Arc User
    So, how long until the first "I spent $TRIBBLE on lockboxes, and didn't get a Connie" post, where TRIBBLE is higher than what was needed to buy it on the exchange, selling keys?
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    alexraptorralexraptorr Member Posts: 1,192 Arc User
    Words cannot even begin to describe the sheer depth of the feelings of disgust and contempt I have for Cryptic Studios right now...
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid." - Q
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    cidstormcidstorm Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
    RIP to all those who got banned for posting what they believed in, you will never be forgotten. We did it.

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    evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    All us various questers meet up in a place called Camelot. Tis quite silly.

    Nah, I'll be questing in Azeroth while mourning the death of my King. With a reasonably-priced T6 Excalibur out the window though I'll support your quest for a T6 Sovereign as the next C-Store ship.
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    cidstormcidstorm Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
    jcsww wrote: »
    When can we expect the TMP Connie Refit and Ambassador? A Romulan D7 would be awesome too!

    You can use the TMP Refit on this currently announced ship.
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    evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    jcsww wrote: »
    When can we expect the TMP Connie Refit and Ambassador? A Romulan D7 would be awesome too!

    TMP connie is included in this announcement
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    duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,871 Arc User
    All us various questers meet up in a place called Camelot. Tis quite silly.

    Nah, I'll be questing in Azeroth while mourning the death of my King. With a reasonably-priced T6 Excalibur out the window though I'll support your quest for a T6 Sovereign as the next C-Store ship.

    Sorry, good sir knight, I must divert to a T6 Patrol Escort first. The Nadeon bombs will be most useful in defeating a certain, cave dwelling, demon.
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    sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    Another ship i'll never get to use?

    So be it, but it did give me a good laugh!
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    chozoelder2ndchozoelder2nd Member Posts: 440 Arc User
    So much crow eating lately. I love it.

    Aw hell no. Come on, what's wrong with just selling something at a set price?

    "Hi, I'd like a pizza for 5 euro"

    "Sorry, we only do the chance of pizza for 1 euro"

    "What's the chance of winning?"

    "0.001%. But it's not gambling because if you don't win pizza you get half a silce of garlic bread and 1 of 400 coupons to a burger"
    You guys realize that the T6 Constitution class is the holy grail of Star Trek Online right?

    This is going to sum all the back and forth that's gonna happen. t6 TOS/TMP Connie is top tier and breaks through the heavens on the demand chart. This move makes sense.
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