I was wondering what other player think about a T6 tos version of a dreadnought or even a motion picture version of dreadnought?
1. its non-canon.
2. the author of this fanmade idea would need to contacted
3. i doubt cryptic would want to bring on another fanmade creation, considering the last time and that was by a contest that was NA only. (i will never ever forgive cryptic for what they did with that)
4. this is clearly a t6 connie thread, read the FCT thread about the response.
also, there is SFC1's dreadie, but that thing looks rfugly! it would scare the paint off a car and send every animal into a hiding hole its so ugly. besides cryptic would need to contact the people at interplay and i do not see that happening any time soon either.
If your talking about the Proxima and the Federation class then possibly yes for those that like the TOS era, I don't mind buying it but remember those two use components from the Conni itself so probably CBS will used that as an excuse to say nopy dope to cryptic and PWE.
2. the author of this fanmade idea would need to contacted
3. i doubt cryptic would want to bring on another fanmade creation, considering the last time and that was by a contest that was NA only. (i will never ever forgive cryptic for what they did with that)
FWIW, it's not quite a "fanmade" idea - it's from the 1970s Star Trek novel, "Dreadnought", albeit the fan-made picture has it with movie engines:
While I've never seen it explicitly stated, I'd put money the design also inspired the "All Good Things" Enterprise - which is the same concept on the Galaxy - and is why the STO designation for that ship is the Dreadnought.
This ship is, at the very least, in the territory of the Vesta (a fan-favourite design from the novels). However, I have to agree, it's probably too close to the Constitution class for comfort. The same would be true for the NX refit.
While I've never seen it explicitly stated, I'd put money the design also inspired the "All Good Things" Enterprise - which is the same concept on the Galaxy - and is why the STO designation for that ship is the Dreadnought.
This ship is, at the very least, in the territory of the Vesta (a fan-favourite design from the novels).
correct the quote.
anyway, from a novel? that already proves all the cases for the 3 points. why copy ideas when cryptic can come up with their own? it wouldnt make much sense to deal with another 3rd party for fan made ideas.
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Technically it's canon in the same way people argue it here, it was referenced on screen, and the schematic appeared onscreen. It's from the original Tech manual, that's not canon, but was used in the design of the first movie. The book isn't considered canon, but that ship (and a few others) have been on screen (in a form).
Production
While this book is now considered to be non-canonical, it was used as a source and reference for four Star Trek motion pictures, and at least one episode.
Three starships from the book were mentioned by name, class, and registry in Star Trek: The Motion Picture:
Scout USS Revere NCC-595
Scout USS Columbia NCC-621
Dreadnought USS Entente NCC-2120
Starship designs from the book were used as bridge displays in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan and Star Trek III: The Search for Spock:
Hermes-class Scout
Federation-class Dreadnought
Ptolemy-class Transport/Tug
Saladin-class Destroyer
One starship from the book is listed on a display screen in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country:
Heavy cruiser USS Kongo NCC-1710
One starship from the book is shown on a bridge display in Star Trek III: The Search for Spock and TNG: "Datalore":
Constitution-class starship NCC-1700
I was thinking about an original series style dreadnought or as new as a original series motion picture style dreadnought that keeps with the tos (original series) character I've created. A galaxy dreadnought is awesome but doesn't fit with character build.
What is the TOS or Motion Picture Dreadnought? I don't recall those existing?
It makes me a sad panda that there are supposed Trek fans that dont know these things have existed since at least the early 80s.
I would love a movie era one but as other have stated, these are basically Constitution class vessels tweaked in some fashion or another and likely to never fly because of that single reason.
Also the original billing for the Excelsior was Battleship or Dreadnought
What is the TOS or Motion Picture Dreadnought? I don't recall those existing?
It makes me a sad panda that there are supposed Trek fans that dont know these things have existed since at least the early 80s.
I would love a movie era one but as other have stated, these are basically Constitution class vessels tweaked in some fashion or another and likely to never fly because of that single reason.
Also the original billing for the Excelsior was Battleship or Dreadnought
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What is the TOS or Motion Picture Dreadnought? I don't recall those existing?
It makes me a sad panda that there are supposed Trek fans that dont know these things have existed since at least the early 80s.
I would love a movie era one but as other have stated, these are basically Constitution class vessels tweaked in some fashion or another and likely to never fly because of that single reason.
Also the original billing for the Excelsior was Battleship or Dreadnought
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Is this a "I Want a T6 Connie but It Isn't a T6 Connie if You Add Another Nacelle On It" thread?
Not necessarily, and depending on licensing agreements might be possible. The first two Starfleet Commands had a couple of decent "dreadnought" type options: gaming.trekcore.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=202
Technically it's canon in the same way people argue it here, it was referenced on screen, and the schematic appeared onscreen. It's from the original Tech manual, that's not canon, but was used in the design of the first movie. The book isn't considered canon, but that ship (and a few others) have been on screen (in a form).
Production
While this book is now considered to be non-canonical, it was used as a source and reference for four Star Trek motion pictures, and at least one episode.
Three starships from the book were mentioned by name, class, and registry in Star Trek: The Motion Picture:
Scout USS Revere NCC-595
Scout USS Columbia NCC-621
Dreadnought USS Entente NCC-2120
Starship designs from the book were used as bridge displays in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan and Star Trek III: The Search for Spock:
Hermes-class Scout
Federation-class Dreadnought
Ptolemy-class Transport/Tug
Saladin-class Destroyer
One starship from the book is listed on a display screen in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country:
Heavy cruiser USS Kongo NCC-1710
One starship from the book is shown on a bridge display in Star Trek III: The Search for Spock and TNG: "Datalore":
Constitution-class starship NCC-1700
Any chance that it would be V'Ger? As in the director's cut CGI version that became the Borg dreadnought in STO? Only thing in TMP that could be called a dreadnought.
Gene endorsed it till he found out he couldn't gain any profit from it...
Then... Not So Much.
It was at that point that he and Matt Jefferies had a falling out.
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In the novelization of TMP, written by Gene Enterprise after the near 2 year refit is now a battleship, but the bureaucrats of the federation refused to call it that, Enterprise was the last of the surviving constitution class ships, Post refit, the ship was named an Enterprise class due to the considerable modifications to the ship. I'd be more of with a t6 TMP refit ship than a T6 connie.
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Do you mind clarifying this? Are you asking if we would like to see a TOS/Motion picture style dreadnought? I'm not sure people would go for that...
Is this a "I Want a T6 Connie but It Isn't a T6 Connie if You Add Another Nacelle On It" thread?
If so, no.
Could a third nacelle even fit on a Constitution Class cruiser? Seems like that would just be a kitbash that led to a destroyed ship.
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/dreadnaught_federation_upg2.jpg
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1. its non-canon.
2. the author of this fanmade idea would need to contacted
3. i doubt cryptic would want to bring on another fanmade creation, considering the last time and that was by a contest that was NA only. (i will never ever forgive cryptic for what they did with that)
4. this is clearly a t6 connie thread, read the FCT thread about the response.
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also, there is SFC1's dreadie, but that thing looks rfugly! it would scare the paint off a car and send every animal into a hiding hole its so ugly. besides cryptic would need to contact the people at interplay and i do not see that happening any time soon either.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/stargliderx/fedbb-cool.jpg
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nice reaction, silly, but thats your choice of words and not my problem.
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FWIW, it's not quite a "fanmade" idea - it's from the 1970s Star Trek novel, "Dreadnought", albeit the fan-made picture has it with movie engines:
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Dreadnought!
While I've never seen it explicitly stated, I'd put money the design also inspired the "All Good Things" Enterprise - which is the same concept on the Galaxy - and is why the STO designation for that ship is the Dreadnought.
This ship is, at the very least, in the territory of the Vesta (a fan-favourite design from the novels). However, I have to agree, it's probably too close to the Constitution class for comfort. The same would be true for the NX refit.
correct the quote.
anyway, from a novel? that already proves all the cases for the 3 points. why copy ideas when cryptic can come up with their own? it wouldnt make much sense to deal with another 3rd party for fan made ideas.
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memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Federation_class
Technically it's canon in the same way people argue it here, it was referenced on screen, and the schematic appeared onscreen. It's from the original Tech manual, that's not canon, but was used in the design of the first movie. The book isn't considered canon, but that ship (and a few others) have been on screen (in a form).
memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Fleet_Technical_Manual
You mean this?
https://vincentpaone.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/planet_killer.jpg
and I'd like to buy this ship too since i love the tos series ^^
So is the Luna Class, also from the books. While the USS Titan is mentioned at the end of Nemesis, it wasn't designed until the books.
It makes me a sad panda that there are supposed Trek fans that dont know these things have existed since at least the early 80s.
I would love a movie era one but as other have stated, these are basically Constitution class vessels tweaked in some fashion or another and likely to never fly because of that single reason.
Also the original billing for the Excelsior was Battleship or Dreadnought
^^ LOL. This.
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a little lol
Not necessarily, and depending on licensing agreements might be possible. The first two Starfleet Commands had a couple of decent "dreadnought" type options:
gaming.trekcore.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=202
And some better pictures at:
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/star-trek-vessel-warship-analogs.291129/
If I recall while not canon it was endorsed and encouraged by Roddenberry.
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Then... Not So Much.
It was at that point that he and Matt Jefferies had a falling out.
<sad face>
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