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johngazman
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...it meant that Cryptic could overcome the issues that seem to be plaguing any possibility of a Cardassian faction? That issue being that they put the Galor in as a Lockbox ship and then regretted it afterwards.
Please try to bear in mind that this thread isn't titled "Everyone should give up their hard-earned Lockbox/Lobi ships so Cryptic can do a Cardassian faction!". I'm not advocating that Cryptic take them away against your will. I'm merely curious as to how many people who own them would be prepared to give them up on their Starfleet/KDF/Rom characters in order to see a proper Cardie faction with a Galor.
Me, personally, I own a Galor and a Jem'Hadar Dreadnought. And i'll be the first to admit that they are two of my favorite ships, even if they're not my most used. But in hindsight, if it meant the creation of a Cardassian faction (with Jem'Hadar species) could become a thing, I think I would gladly give them both up.
That said, I would also expect some sort of recognition for the effort required to get said ships - for example, leave the Spiral Wave Disruptors unlocked for former owners, or - even better - open them up for purchase by anyone with the Dil. Or perhaps a discount on a Fleet Galor.
Thoughts?
Please try to bear in mind that this thread isn't titled "Everyone should give up their hard-earned Lockbox/Lobi ships so Cryptic can do a Cardassian faction!". I'm not advocating that Cryptic take them away against your will. I'm merely curious as to how many people who own them would be prepared to give them up on their Starfleet/KDF/Rom characters in order to see a proper Cardie faction with a Galor.
Me, personally, I own a Galor and a Jem'Hadar Dreadnought. And i'll be the first to admit that they are two of my favorite ships, even if they're not my most used. But in hindsight, if it meant the creation of a Cardassian faction (with Jem'Hadar species) could become a thing, I think I would gladly give them both up.
That said, I would also expect some sort of recognition for the effort required to get said ships - for example, leave the Spiral Wave Disruptors unlocked for former owners, or - even better - open them up for purchase by anyone with the Dil. Or perhaps a discount on a Fleet Galor.
Thoughts?
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I personally have been farming like a madman to get a Galor and saving every scrap of EC in hope of getting enough for a bugship, and I would eagerly give both of those up to play a Jem'Hadar. That's how much I want playable Cardies and Dominion.
The ships that players have now are decades old. There is nothing preventing them making newer versions with different boff/console, etc... arrangements for the actual factions assuming that they create them.
I'm pretty sure Geko or one of the other Devs has mentioned that putting the Galor in the lockbox gives them a bit of a headache about how - or if - they're going to be able to add it into the game if/when they do a Cardassian faction, and seeing as it's practically their most iconic ship, I doubt they'd be able to do it without a Galor.
The True way and the New Dominion is even dumber.
There is only one Cardy ship in a lock box, and 3 Dominion ships....a Cardy ship could just be turned into a fleet ship, and taken out of the Lockboxes.
the Dominion I don't see happening especially since the Bug is the Flagship of the Lockbox fleet.
Well, speaking from a practical standpoint, there are obviously players who'll want to play as Jem'Hadar, and while I can see a Cardassian faction happening, a Jem'Hadar/Dominion/True Way one probably won't, as it's too niche.
I would expect them to roll the Cardie faction similarly to the way the KDF or the Rom's work - incorporating species that could be a part of the faction, even if only by previous association.
Also yes, I know that if a Cardie faction is a long way off, if it ever happens. I'm not expecting this in the next few weeks. I'd honestly be surprised if it happens before 2015.
Add in the fact KDF is getting the serious shaft. How bout we work on fleshing out and fixing the balance between the factions first before putting in another faction.
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or by awarding them 3000 zen 2500 for the ship + plus a fleet module(500 zen). allowing a player to be compensated with the ability to purchase a new end game ship.
since there is nothing to say they want to play cardi.
the option to do a repack of ships if they do not fit your play style would be a bonus
- Cardassian Keldon Class (As seen in game)
- Ferengi D'kora Advanced (Advanced meaning use of a separating Auxiliary craft in combat. Located on the bottom of the hull) http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/D%27Kora_class, seen here on toward the bottom of the page.
With this in mind, We know Cardassia exists in the Beta Ursa sector block, but I wouldn't mind just as well to see a Ferengi Faction with Ferengiar as their home world too.
Hence why I was rolling the Cardies in with the Jem'Hadar.
I do agree, however, that the Klingons need some attention before we start adding the Cardassians in. That's not to say that we can't discuss possibilities.
I would love to have that option too. My bug ship isnt used and I dont like it. I would gladly sale it for hundreds of millions of credits...
The True way New Dominion alliance is Stupid, so making a Dominion Cardassian Alliance faction is also pretty dumb.
*Galor: I'd make the one that was given out (which I have) "Galor Classic" and leave it as is. If a new faction was produced, I'd make a "Treaty Galor" which is somehow less powerful than the original.
*Same with the Bugship. It's DS9/TNG era at this point... I'm sure the Dominion has upgraded and tweaked the design.
*The two Jemmie Heavy ships... I'd keep them as ultra-rare drop-ships and have a mass-produced Jemhadar Carrier and Battleship.
For Cardassians... Heddiki-class escort, Treaty Galor, Treaty Keldon, Uprated Keldon, some type of uprated escort, a Treaty Carrier (science) and a Command Ship.
Thing is I don't see the Cardassians taking the warpath... They were decimated, and learned a very hard lesson. Any ships they build would have to comply with disarmament treaties and be limited in raw firepower/DPS. I could see them being a pure "science" faction that gives bonuses to science-abilities.
But, frankly, existing factions need more work. Both KDF and Romulans would need to be finished before any new faction is added. Otherwise it will end with only more and more unfinished factions.
However I see no inherent problem with a Cardassian faction giving Cardassian players access to the Galor. I don't see how Cryptic could possibly not offer it, frankly.
I'd expect a Galaxy/D'Deridex situation with a free T4 version, a T5 C-Store refit and a fleet version. In that case the Fleet Galor would have specs identical to the lockbox version, which would presumably remain available to anyone who could get their hands on it.
I'd also expect a Cardassian faction to not include Dominion ships. The True Way are the bad guys. They are to the legitimate Cardassian government what the Tal Shiar are to the Republic. They'd be the adversaries in any Cardassian storyline.
This. Thematically it makes absolutely zero sense to have the Cardassians and the Dominion as anything but enemies now. It's so dumb I can't even believe people are suggesting it.
Lol, I love my Galor. Best cruiser for my playstyle. You can have the JEC and Dread. just give me 10k zen each for em, I don't use them ever anymore.
But you can't have my Bug! Cost me a whopping 90mil heh.. yup only 90!
Im not that attached to a cardassian faction though anyway.
Your Javelin deals 125417 (89066) Disruptor Damage(Critical) to Tholian Recluse. > lol
I agree. If I were a Cardassian I wouldn't want anything to do with the Dominion. I think a Cardi mini faction would be just fine.
Much more likely they'd use in-house designed variants taking cues from dominion and cardassian style themes, maybe including tier 4 or 5 ships with customization options to look like these same ships but with different stats, inferior, superior, or otherwise comparable.
I really wish some people wouldn't preclude the option of including alpha Jem hadar in any sort of cardassian faction addition. A coalition feel would be nice, neither of the races has enough background info on its own to be anywhere near as feasible as romulan inclusion was, and it allows for some racial specialization. Just like gorn are the science masters of the KDF, jem would be the tac specialists of any Card-Dom coalition while the cardassians stuck their sneaky duplicious ways in science, and then they could both offer a cruiser variant with leanings based on their race specialty. Tac cruiser being the JH battle cruiser, sci cruiser being cardassian.
I just think it would work better if they were bundled together like the Romulans and Remans are now. No faction has only one playable race,
It makes NO SENSE. The Jem'Hadar were responsible for attempting the genocide of the Cardassian species.