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I call "Shenanigans" on the global event progress meter.
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I do. I am now of the opinion it is B.S.
I know that you can't jump to a conclusion from a single event, but the meter SKYROCKETED yesterday in the early hours and also, the last time that doff mission completions were used as an input. This time? It "magically" has been crawling from 95% to 98%.
I am now of the opinion that it can and is being slowed down as they see fit, either as an artificial chicane to certain goals, or as to maintain interest. Thoughts?
EDIT: Let me go one step further - I don't believe round 1 was even meant to succeed. Aside from reports of certain fleet inputs not registering (myself being one of them) I am thinking that Cryptic knows what rewards they are going to allow and handle it accordingly. Shenanigans, indeed! I do declare shenanigans!
I know that you can't jump to a conclusion from a single event, but the meter SKYROCKETED yesterday in the early hours and also, the last time that doff mission completions were used as an input. This time? It "magically" has been crawling from 95% to 98%.
I am now of the opinion that it can and is being slowed down as they see fit, either as an artificial chicane to certain goals, or as to maintain interest. Thoughts?
EDIT: Let me go one step further - I don't believe round 1 was even meant to succeed. Aside from reports of certain fleet inputs not registering (myself being one of them) I am thinking that Cryptic knows what rewards they are going to allow and handle it accordingly. Shenanigans, indeed! I do declare shenanigans!
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The global even that uses doff mission completion as input towards it. Have you not been playing?
It got to 84% in like, hours yesterday, but now has hit a hard slowdown at around the 90% mark, give or take.
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The best theory being "people decided to spend some dil and EC before the deadline instead of just putting in their spare white doffs." CONSPIRACY!!!!!
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I don't think its much of a conspiracy here: I'm pretty confident it's been slowed down - the performance delta is to conspicuous to be normal noise.
It's because it was in tier II prior to the day-long maintenance, then was at 0% tier 1 when the server came up again. The accumulated gain just got restored at some point. It's no biggie.
As for a fast gain in the doff missions, duh, most of the big doff missions are on a 8/20 or whatever hour timer. Of course it's going to lag and spurt. The gain will smooth out over the week as people spread out.
There's a metric a$$ton of missions that are 1/2/4 hour that pay well....I cant say its strictly becasue of the 8/20 schedule. If so it wouldnt have climed so swimmingly yesterday.
But most players will log in for only a short time per day. You have the hardcore players who will be handing in missions as soon as they complete. But the vast majority of players will fill their Doff mission roster with random (or not so random) missions, then log off, and log back on the next day, hand them in, then rinse and repeat.
I don't have any numbers, or any way of assessing what anyone is doing in the population, but I'm going to second-guess computers because in order to keep my membership in the tin-foil-hat society I've got to post at least one conspiracy a day on the internet!
You can guess the reliability of an indicator once you have something more reliable, not less.
Simple filter you can also apply: why bother? What's it to them that we get slightly fewer reputation marks this week than might have been had with a "true" measure of FC earned? If they were really that bothered with the outcome of an event they would have just rescaled rewards, rather than inventing elaborate algorithms (plural) to simulate the chaotic nature of player behavior through a secondary indicator. This is a pretty lousy cheat indeed if its even MORE sophisticated than the honest solution (see. descriptive stats versus modeling, try figuring out the y=mx+b equation to weekly progress yourself) and has even less benefits from cryptic's own POV.
You know, it could just be that your impression of how these status bar should be progressing isn't accurate. I'd personally go with that, even if it meant handing in my card to the tin-foil society. :P
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You know, I figured that there's be white knights here, but as I stated in my opening post that clearly one cant jump to a conclusion from a single post, but your point brings up just that - because there NO transparency, all we have to use is behavior: Yesterday, it went along just swimmingly till about 70-80%...then now its magically crawling along, even after 20 hours later when many of those missions will pop.
As much as there are many tin-foil hat conspiracies, is it so beyond ken that there could be some chicanery going on here?
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This is about the honor of logical reasoning, not cryptic. You've done some terrible things to it and I won't see that go unchallenged. :P
Compared to the possibility that there isn't chicanery? Yes, it is unreasonable to suppose a conspiracy. If you see a picture of someone wearing a blue shirt you're going to assume they're really wearing a blue shirt. Even without the physical article in front of you (ie. your "transparency") its still a less parsimonious explanation to invoke photoshop particularly without definite cause or without a plausible motive. Its an arbitrary alternative with less weighting than the first explanation.
Basically, you've walked into the room shouting "IT'S RED PEOPLE, THE SHIRT IS RED!" for no other reason than it suits your fancy. It might be a gratifying post to make (and at that I'm not making any kind of character judgement here, its a natural human reaction), but its not a supportable one.
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The fleet credit week failed lat time as well. The devs put a huge curve on it, and failed to adjust it this time around. It got stuck around the same place as last time. Thankfully, this time they tied it to rep marks instead of XP like last time when we got 100% XP (Tier II) bonus instead of 150%.
You can find quick ending doff assignments all over the place. Medical ops has a bunch of 30 min ones. Colonial nebulas have 15-30 minutes ones. Voth BZ has a bunch of 45 minute ones. If picking quick ones is the key to moving that needle, then there are plenty to choose from.
When designing the points needed for the levels, Cryptic have the (allergy inducing word approaching) metrics. They will know how many fleet contributions there will be in an average week. They will know how many doff assignments there will be turned in in a normal week. They will know how these numbers can change in an "event week" - if anybody really pushes them, if they stay the same, that stuff. So if they want a certain result (and they are certainly thinking about what they want. My guess is: reach level 3 but barely, so it feels like a success, a "we, the community, did it against the odds", but I don't know), it will be easy to set it up more or less from the beginning. Yes, there will be some leeway one way or the other, and probably fleet contributions are less volatile than other stuff you can do in game, but there really is no need for somebody to move sliders manually to get a certain effect.
Yes, I could imagine, that a severely overscaled requirement (e.g. you won't even reach half of tier I) might get a rescheduling, but I just doubt that this is necessary anymore. Yes, it is not transparent how they arrive at their numbers, but I thik you can easily accept that they know enough about their numbers, even if they are not publishing them.
The other important question has also been asked already: what good would it do to push the slider if it is not working? The amount of extra XP/dil/CXP/gummy bears the community will get from a certain reward boost can be calculated in advance, and it's not gonna kill neither the players nor cryptic if there is a change of maybe a fifth for a week (taking the example above: with the 100% XP increase we were at 200% instead of 250%, so only a fifth fewer XP to be earned)
Holey Moley. You mean YOU'RE SERIOUS about this? A j/k thread I love but this is inane.
Multiply that times whoever many people play the game and it adds up. Remember: This is the SAME company that does seemingly gratuitous nerds and rollbacks to Dil and XP for dubious reasons.
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