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darthkuriboh
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Being one of the many players who prefers playing a Klingon over the Federation, I often make note of the fact that there is little to no KDF specific content. Almost every mission is regurgitated Federation missions, and we would like Cryptic to take note of us (considering we likely spend more than Fed players) and our concerns. We want good, solid KDF content. We want to fight to defend our planet, we want to attack Federation Starbases and supply depots. We want to pirate Federation and Romulan freighters.
If we got some good, solid KDF specific content, Cryptic would see just how many people really do prefer playing a Klingon.
If we got some good, solid KDF specific content, Cryptic would see just how many people really do prefer playing a Klingon.
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As a hardcore KDF player, even I know that no matter what, there'd be more Feds.
That said, Faction Specific Missions are gone. They haven't been done since LOR:
- LOR introduced the Rom subfaction and their campaign arc. There's not even a difference in flavor or story after you choose what greater power your Romulan/Reman would kowtow to.
- Same time as LOR, the KDF had some new low level missions brought in
That was the last time there truly was any faction specific missions. Everything else, to include the Featured Episodes brought in over time, have been written purely from a Fed POV then changed some words around to make them Non-Fed missions:
- Change Admiral to General
- Change a word or two and replace them with Honor or Glory. If you do both in one text panel, that's great!
That is the extent of faction specific stuff you will see. It's been that way since LOR and DR's story missions are the exact same way. It's almost as bad as the embarrassing Dominion / Cardassian Struggle arc. Mind you, this isn't just a KDF issue. The Roms are now in the exact same boat as the KDF.
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Why ? imagine that players will discover that kdf character can make more ec/dil per hour than fed one and cryptic will start geting less money from players.
On top of that even Blizzard who has a ton more resources has been doing shared content for the past couple of years. Maybe not all of it but a lot of it is shared, and the dungeons and raids are definately shared.
Take a look at how faction specific dungeons worked out for SWTOR. Your first instance as an imperial and republic were different from each other. They had the same theme which is that you are a passenger on a ship that gets attacked by the enemy faction. But the areas were all different, the bosses were different and the boss mechanics were different. Now compare that to the kind of dungeons and raids they got with Rise of the Hutt Cartel and Omicron or w/e. How much of the newer content was still faction specific? how much of it was shared?
Now maybe the new shared missions they do can have more of a klingon theme to it. But OP you can probably forget all about that 'kdf invading fed starbases, depots and freighters' nonsense. The Jenolan piece treaty paved the way for shared content. It wouldnt make sense for Fed and KDF to be enemies in Chapter 1 but friends at the end, not without the Jenolan treaty storyline. You may not be able to do "invade the fed" type storyline but you can do defend my planet/colony type storylines. Defending Qonos against Vaadwuar, Hazari or heirarchy that managed to make it from the DQ back to the AQ or some TRIBBLE like that. Or defend a Klingon outpost in the DQ. Or pick up the Kuvagh'Magh storyline in the DQ. They could probably make a chapter out of the Kuvagh Magh and give it a primarily Klingon feel. And the Feds and Rom-Feds being their allies can help since they are allies after all. So BAM there you now have a shared storyline between both factions that has a KDF feel to it.
Lol, how that contradict what i writed ? Yes, per person KDS is best customer, but in global ratio, fed side earn most money.
And yes, it can be because simply kdf player DONT have items to spend thier money on
It still amazes me that the Starship Traits weren't account unlocks. If they had been, they could have prompted folks that favor one faction to purchase for and play the others. It really seems like a missed opportunity. Imagine, with Overwhelming Force they could have gotten Feds to spend money on a Mat'Ha, and play KDF characters just to unlock that for their Fed Science Vessels. They might have gotten KDF diehards begging to spend money to do so on a Phantom, and play Fed characters just to unlock Reciprocity for their KDF Battlecruisers. Or... you know... leveraged their multiple factions to drive sales rather than ignoring them.
For example, you have to save the Lleiset, the Romulan flasgship. Why don't we save the Odyssey/Bortasqu' according to our faction ? You'll just have to change a bit of dialogues, and the textures of the ship, mostly, no need to make an entire new interior.
Then, you act like a rom, no matter what, when you trick your allies in a fake fight.
You act like a Klingon when you shoot and kill malon in a mission, where you have to escort freighters and are acting like a mercenary for the Hierachy. The malon were obviously tricked, and instead of searching a peaceful solution as a fed, you kill them.
You act as a fed when trying to reach a peaceful solution with Gaul, even being saddened because he didn't listen. As a Klingon that was ridiculous.
You also act as a fed when the Prime Directive is the argument given by the Captain on Kobali Prime to stop interfering (it doesn't make much sense as a fed, but as a Rom or KDF, it's ridiculous).
And it's like that all over DR. You play as 3 factions with a single character. Which mean always 2/3 of the missions doesn't makes much sense.
+1. PWE/Cryptic mission statement - "We look for things to make us go..."
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That's a pretty good sig pic. I've been considering making one along the lines of that using Elfen Lied, but I can't decide between using Nyu's innocent face or Lucy's lethal face (for those that don't get the reference, suffice it to say that it refers to a character that appears incredibly innocent and yet is the source of incredible violence). Then again, I like the accolade... it does a good enough job of indicating my opinion of the game of late. It could use some work. :P
No, it is a very simple business decision.
They can make a product A that costs X money to make. They will sell it Y times at the price of P.
They can make a Product B that costs X money to make. they will sell it Z times at the price of P.
If Z > Y, then from a busines perspective it would make more sense to make product B.
In short - yes, Klingon players buy stuff, and they like Klingon players money just as much as anyone's money, but creating something for Klingon players costs just as much as creating something for Federation players, but the Federation players will buy more ,because there are more of them.
By travelling back through time, giving her DNA to the Klingons so they could cure their "ridge problem", she fulfilled the prophecy. End of story.
Total agreement and a great post. That thing was a piece of junk. Throw me a T6 B'rel and I almost...*almost*...would consider playing again longer than logging in to do Doffs and cycle crafting research projects.
OK let me be more specific...make a new storyline about the Kuvah Magh PEOPLE not the K-M storyline from Voy or STO. The storyline may have been concluded but what about the people Voyager ran into in the DQ? I'm not going to pull up my episodes of Voyager so one of you guys is going to have to tell me. The Klingons that they ran into on Voyager...was infertility also one of the things affecting them? were they able to settle down and reproduce? If they are still around then there is your K-M storyline right there. If they were infertile or unable to reproduce and were just going to a planet to die then retcon that. Say that they found a cure, or they went into a nebula and the gas made them ok or they found a crockpot full of Neelixs souffle floating in space and eating if cured them of the inability to have kids. Make an ongoing story where the people or their decendants are found and are under attack by [insert generic villians here] and the KDF and Feds offer to help them out. They can throw in some more old school Klingon lore bits or more prophesy material in there too....material that hasnt been resolved in previous episodes or STO storylines.
During the S6 finale and S7 first episode Voyager was aided by a liberated Borg ship under the command of General Korok a liberated Borg-Klingon. So do up a storyline where you find out that he rounded up a bunch of liberated Klingons and started up a colony or some TRIBBLE. Or how about those Klingon cruisers at the start of ST1 TMP? throw in some phrases about Tachyons and Temporal this and that and bam suddenly you have a storyline about finding 3 D7 (?) cruisers and you have to acclimate them to the present time period and arrange for them to go home. Like you find them in stasis in some huge vault...kind like the vault Obisek was messing around in.
It was easier to write a few lines that mimicked the feds then redoing everything.
IT was simply money and laziness. Plain and simple.
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Step 1: Make a mission with a generic, Fed POV.
Step 2: Replace the words "Admiral" with "General."
Step 3: Replace random words throughout the mission with "Honor" and "Glory."
Step 4: You now have a Post LOR KDF mission!
Special Note: There is no need to rewrite the missions for a Romulan POV. They already are Feds to begin with.
Agreed. I'm leveling up a fed Sci and a Klink tactical as we speak, just to play around with the new shiny ships and traits. I'm a die-hard Romulan player, as I love being a green-blooded snake-in-the-grass, but I'd hit the gas on this leveling process if it meant I could shift traits around.
Most likely what will happen, though, is that the traits will find themselves in lockboxes sooner or later, and you'll have another 20-something million EC price tag on them. Which is only like $11.25 in keys, so Cryptic shot themselves in the foot there.
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It doesn't help either that from the very beginning, the KDF was only ever an extra option for high level Fed players; later made available to all. And has been that way ever since. An extra.
It also doesn't help that there's hardly any KDF-centric stuff they can work with. LoR was at least able to pull a few elements from JJ Trek and turn it into a series of mission chains. KDF has far less. Regardless, Star Trek was pretty much always Federation-oriented.
The only way to ever change that perception was if the KDF was given just as much spotlight as the Sith was with Star Wars. But that went against Roddenberry's vision of a grand, unified, and powerful Federation, and has lingered forever since. Though works after his death started showing that the Federation wasn't always perfect; much less peaceful.
And now, with the close of the Dyson missions, future independent faction content is likely all but dead. We're once again all one big happy family working together.