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thorgrim
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Hey all, I don't know about you guys, but I'm sick and tired of low gear score wimps coming into Prophecy of Madness and ruining the chances of getting a GOLD overall score. You simply cannot be effective if your 1.5 or 2k GS, simply cannot do enough damage.
I am hoping the developers can make it to where you need 2.5 GS or higher to get in this skirmish.
GOLD overall gives you a better chance of getting a +5 ring from my understanding. GOLD cannot be achieved unless 5 players do enough damage to kill the monsters quickly enough in the allotted time period.
I am hoping the developers can make it to where you need 2.5 GS or higher to get in this skirmish.
GOLD overall gives you a better chance of getting a +5 ring from my understanding. GOLD cannot be achieved unless 5 players do enough damage to kill the monsters quickly enough in the allotted time period.
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I know good equipped players who manage to get gold in PUGs as well. I think they see it as a challenge.
I've heard the myth that golden reward rewards might give more +5. But AFAIK the only difference is the number of campaign currency you get.
Being honest I was a 1.4k IL player running Throne on the most useless GF build ever![Specced TOTALLY for defense/survival] so really I have no stones to cast in this debate.
I can see how annoyance I was! I do also tend to jump ship on a run if, after the first minute or so I can tell there is a low IL or LOW skill player or two. It can be frustrating and being honest, a low item cap of say 1.2k wouldnt be hard to enforce or be too unreasonable?
you simply do not have enough time to hit all the portals.
I do think throne is easier because you dont have the block in the middle, so you can kill most of the groups.. but then there, if you have to direct hulks at doors.. that is hard concept for some people.. or language barriers arise.
The second fault I see in some posts, is that ppl claim, that it is 'elitism' if someone asks for other players to gear up. I said before, that 2.5k would be to high, but to claim 'elitism' as reason, why ppl are fed up with carrying 500 IL praying alts to their easy RAD in POM is delusional.
It might be, that the skirmish was intended for new lvl 70 players, to gear up. Sad fact is, that the absence of min IL resulted in an abuse by ppl farming RAD on ungeared playing alts.
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As a GWF at 2500 should be blowing my rogue out the water .
You just can't pull off silver or gold with 2 other dps doin 5 and 8 mill .
I am def not an elitist and happy to help everyone but man you really should have an easier POM for undergeared and maybe an elite POM for 2500 and up .
I don't think the poster is being unreasonable be kind to us still farming our +5 rings
As far as new 70 you can run Tiamat get your elemental set in a handful of runs you can buy tier 2/3 out the gate with rank 7s for nothing and artifact weapons can be crafted now so if you havin trouble getting to 2k something is wrong .
But back to the post they have demo and Edemo why not EPoM
Neverwinter isn't just about 200+ speed runs of the same content to get BIS loot before the next tier of goodies drop. For some people, it's about completing the content at all. For others, it's spending time with friends or helping strangers gear up. There is already too much focus on repetitive grind to obtain the currently most shiny items (though mod 11 is a breath of fresh air). Let's not further restrict content so that it's only purpose is the high-speed grind.
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it shouldn't be like this, even if you send a mule you shouldn't cause a fail to rest of the players cause you are cheap.
and in POM there are total fails, you can play for 15 min and get absoultly nothing cause some players can't even stay alive.
if you want to send a mule, at least equip it with purple items and rank 7 enchants.
if this means 2.5K GS, i am ok with that.
dont see a reason why someone need to cause a fail for all the rest hoping they will do the job for him.
*many do it for the HP armor and +5 rings. you can get those from the chest at silver rank
Thank fact of the matter is people don't just go from 1500 - 2500 the minute they reach 70. They've had to use AD to buy refining stones to upgrade artifacts from Green to Blue plus a lot of other things to buy including upgrading armor as they level to 70 among many other things.
Also remember until you hit 70 you also don't make as much AD either because aside from your two daily dungeons which give 4750 raw astral diamonds, you're able to do maybe two more skirmishes each for about 2700 before you're limited in options. You can not enter campaign area's except Sharandar or Maze prior to 70, and the only skirmish you can Q for is the one from Sharandar. So if they've completed the first 9 chapters of underdark really the first two new dungeon's or skirmishes that open up are Dread, PoM or Dwarven God.
Remember many are just beginning their adventure at this stage and the later two skirmishes are the first to allow them the opportunity to begin upgrading their gear and expanding the amount of AD they are able to earn. So complaining about them when they are trying to do the very thing your asking is well... in poor taste and reflects more on your character than theirs.
You aren't able to earn salvageable gear to even begin boosting refinement till you hit 70. And it's far too early for them to start entering 1600 dungeons or skirmishes as you know those require a average gear score of about 2.5k even if everyone is working together flawlessly. Still gear score is not even an accurate reflection of a players ability which is why they are changing it and it's on preview right now. The new gear score will factor in all boons earned, quality of mounts earned, insignia slotted in stable, all active companions, your equipped gear, as well as enchantments among other things into a far more accurate assessment. At the same time they are also going to lower the requirements a bit for FBI / SoMI EPIC Trials so they are available to more players provided they've earned some reasonable boons, mounts, companion, insignia, etc...
You can get a +3 or +4 ring even with a bronze or silver victory today despite their drop rates being rare, and +5 rings only drop .01% of the time. If you don't like these facts then Queue with people from your alliance if they are willing to join you.
Also someone else who stated Gold gives two rings is inaccurate: you get one drop from finishing the skirmish, you get another only if you've acquired an additional campaign key.
Gold gives you a ring for completing the skirmish. Silver and bronze have a chance (a slim one), to reward a ring for completing the skirmish.
In addition, you can get a ring with the campaign key. If you want to exclude the chest, the difference between gold and bronze is one to mostly no ring.
To the one with the lottery example: Twice the chance is still double the chance, so if there is a 1: 1000 chance for a legendary ring, I would prefer the chance to get it (statisticly) in 500 runs instead of 1000, but thats just me. I am sure most ppl run POM 2000 times for the fun of it.
If you do a PUG try your best and help others improve rather than complain or focus first on improving your own gear score so their's matter's less... Or try and offer helpful tips using 'say' and ask if anyone wants some polite help on how to improve their gear score then let them come to you.
But don't complain if others are just trying to have a little fun. This is supposed to be a game where players help each other! Also Underdark is one of the first campaign's your supposed to start at 70 after having gotten well established in Sharandar and Maze Engine at 64. If this is the fourth campaign after Evil, Sharandar, and Maze, and the first after reaching 70 your supposed to start, you can very well limit people from progressing upwards who just hit 70.
If you're just looking to farm +4 or +5 rings I don't have much sympathy for you... You're also not going to likely earn them doing PoM or Dwarven God and would likely do a little better with Demogorgon, Epic Demogorgon, or Castle Never and those are already meeting your requirement for 2000-2500 but you'll realize now the average need's be closer to 3k-3.2k to win.
Complaining they need to make it harder is NOT something they can do if it's the first campaign you supposed to complete upon getting to 70; if you want to filter who joins your queue group then ask in your alliance rather than trying to destroy the fun for everyone else.