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Lets Design the 650 meter length Constitution Class for 25th century!
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So in that other thread arguing about old ships existing in current era, I forget who said it, but the idea of having a Connie the size of a Sovereign really stuck with me.
So, lets all design it! STO is fine with saying that new tech is in the current Connies, so lets super size that bad boy with 4 weapon slots fore and aft!
The discussion here is, what minor tweaks visually and internally should she have? Im a purist, so I dont want the overall design changed too much. When she comes at you in space, it needs to be VERY obvious its a super sized Connie.
Questions to consider:
Should the saucer section feature full phaser arcs like the Enterprise D on the ventral and dorsal sides of the saucer section?
Deflector Dish: Something more like the Enterprise D (while still having the same round shape viewing it from the front) or keep that Direct TV dish sticking out in the front?
More windows on the saucer? An obvious Ten Forward in the front?
What tweaks to the nacelles? Do we keep the shape, yet show glowing strips along the sides like the D nacelles (sorry, too lazy to get into technobable, writing this at work
) Do we keep the round bubble nose of the nacelles, yet split the sphere into two sections to look like two different ram scoops? (You know what I mean, lol)
Can we even still SAY its a Constitution class if we keep the hull design and dimensions to 98% of the original, yet we super sized it?
Should it be more 1701 or 1701 A?
What should the bridge look like?
Does it feature a tad more girth in the neck?
Does the saucer separate?
Id love to see some of you sketch some stuff out and submit it. Id love to see this ship as a Tier 5 option to fly to match the Sovereign. If the old Connie design is so fantastic that Cryptic says we can put new guts in it, than super size that bad boy to take down some Nehg vars!
Discuss!
So, lets all design it! STO is fine with saying that new tech is in the current Connies, so lets super size that bad boy with 4 weapon slots fore and aft!
The discussion here is, what minor tweaks visually and internally should she have? Im a purist, so I dont want the overall design changed too much. When she comes at you in space, it needs to be VERY obvious its a super sized Connie.
Questions to consider:
Should the saucer section feature full phaser arcs like the Enterprise D on the ventral and dorsal sides of the saucer section?
Deflector Dish: Something more like the Enterprise D (while still having the same round shape viewing it from the front) or keep that Direct TV dish sticking out in the front?
More windows on the saucer? An obvious Ten Forward in the front?
What tweaks to the nacelles? Do we keep the shape, yet show glowing strips along the sides like the D nacelles (sorry, too lazy to get into technobable, writing this at work
) Do we keep the round bubble nose of the nacelles, yet split the sphere into two sections to look like two different ram scoops? (You know what I mean, lol)Can we even still SAY its a Constitution class if we keep the hull design and dimensions to 98% of the original, yet we super sized it?
Should it be more 1701 or 1701 A?
What should the bridge look like?
Does it feature a tad more girth in the neck?
Does the saucer separate?
Id love to see some of you sketch some stuff out and submit it. Id love to see this ship as a Tier 5 option to fly to match the Sovereign. If the old Connie design is so fantastic that Cryptic says we can put new guts in it, than super size that bad boy to take down some Nehg vars!
Discuss!
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*gets out popcorn, waits for Devs*
That ain't a compromise, now instead of seeing a Connie blow up a Sovereign, the anti refitters get to see a huge, more in your face Connie blow up a Sovereign.
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At least the pain of defeat wouldnt sting so bad if the Connie that pwned you was the same size as you and carried the same amount of weapon slots.
As I implied in the other thread, Kirk would gizz himself to command a Connie that size.
or
http://www.startrekonline.com/enterprise/sites/default/files/imagecache/preview/ent-f_final_small.jpg
Done and dusted.
I want a space shuttle skin for my Defiant.
TYVM for that idea.
Thats not what I mean or want at all. Those are MASSIVE redesigns only hinting at a Connie. They are by no means Connies. Im saying do not deviate more than 2% from the original external specs. Those ships deviate 80%! The Excaliber is ugly IMO too. That new design is good.
I think after I get around to drawing my take on the Enterprise F, I'll draw my opinion of a Connie in my new cad program I bought one week before the F contest deadline, and didnt have time to learn the program and submit something.
So what your saying is that...
If people see this as upsetting
Connie vs Sovereign 1
They will see this as less upsetting?
Connie vs Sovereign 2
I get the feeling that isn't going to happen.
Ummm...the Refit Constitution class (same as in STMP and TWoK) is currently available and in game for LCDR's to select as a cruiser hull at Tier 2. But you knew that, eh?
So give the man a TOS or STMP skin for his T5 cruiser and let his adversaries beware.
LOL, looking at it from that perspective (2) does make it seem comical, I'll admit. But hey, why not, lol.
HAHA! These pics made me laugh! Thank you for that
Because it looks even dumber and more in your face then before.
I may be against it, but making it bigger doesn't make it better, it makes it worse.
Thats what is in my brain when he mentioned his idea. Its so lol
You and me both!
William can you do the same thing for the TOS Shuttle?
Shuttle vs sovereign?
Well maybe a Super TOS Shuttle vs ESD?
Shuttle Vs Sovereign 1
Shuttle Vs Sovereign 2
I can't decide which looks better?
Thank you. Don't worry about it, sometimes ideas are very good in theory, but not very good in practicality.
Why cant you understand it isnt centuries old if its a brand NEW ship
Really, its not like they went to the great ship junk yard in orbit around saturn and said, "Grab all the old TRIBBLE". They said, "hey Shipyard, make me a new ship, with all the latest bells and whistles" that LOOKS like a connie.
As far as the OP goes, I'm too a purest, but many like the 1701-A, so i think it should just be a general shape/design, and have all the customization modules from all the kits. This would allow great customization, and still say "hey I'm a connie pvp people" and allow the use of the current tier5/6 console layout. This would eliminate any balance issues, or keep it as status quo i should say, as the new ships would conform to whats already available in game.
LMAO! Thank you so much!
Always happy to please, which do you think is funnier?
Honestly....they both are just too ridiculous haha. I love them both the same
Its ok to be Huge if you're a Battleship/carrier flagship etc...but would such ships be sent months away from your space when you were surounded by hostile neighbors? Sorry for ranting but no 70 deck Connies(Star Trek 5) please.
then there would be no point in creating a new design for cruiser in the first place they could just build "new" connies forever think for a moment there a reason why they scrapped the design in the first place
Actually, the main reason they scrapped the design is because if Star Trek: The Next Generation had featured exactly the same ship only 100 years later, most viewers would have gotten bored. The brand new and sleek always wins out over "been there, done that".
Also the reason why the Enterprise was refitted for the Motion Picture.
they haven't scrapped the design, unless the federation cruisers have changed the basic lay out and I'm unaware of it. Just the look of it, the design is still valid, We still have a saucer, neck, primary hull, two uprights, and two warp nacelles. Wheres the design scrap?