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Ok so I tested on tribble when the difficulty slider was put on there. I have better set up on my ship now then I had then. While it was tough I could engage and kill a lone Borg sphere. First couple of times I died but I got the hang of it and could take it out. In fact I was able to take out a Borg cube on elite...on Tribble.
Today I engaged a Borg sphere again on elite. 6 deaths later I gave up. I could barely get its shields down and when I did even HYII quantams were barely doing any damage to it. I am just wondering if the Borg got vamped up to much, if its a bug, or just normal? The last I wonder about given the change from Tribble to now. Mind you I like the difficulty slider and have no problem dying...but 6 times to an enemy I could defeat a week ago. Make me wonder is all.
Thanks.
Today I engaged a Borg sphere again on elite. 6 deaths later I gave up. I could barely get its shields down and when I did even HYII quantams were barely doing any damage to it. I am just wondering if the Borg got vamped up to much, if its a bug, or just normal? The last I wonder about given the change from Tribble to now. Mind you I like the difficulty slider and have no problem dying...but 6 times to an enemy I could defeat a week ago. Make me wonder is all.
Thanks.
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Yea that was plan I was just concerned because a week ago on Tribble I could beat the spheres and even a cube on elite and now I can't. Maybe just bad luck on my part but I would rather post my concern and be told I am an idot then let a potential bug go that could affect a lot more people then me.
but since you tested it on tribble and i did not test on live yet.... uuuh?
ok i think i'll take a look at it first
Yea... you have a point...that beast was tough... poor esocorts are going to get creamed.
I have 4 ways to boost my hull strenght and 4 ways to boost my shields.
All of it useless when I am a smoldering hulk in space:D
*cough* They are the Borg *cough*
True but maybe we shouldn't be fighting the Borg at all then. It's a wierd situation where if you want to keep the bad-guys big and scary and invincible you can't have 70% of the RA5 missions be "Kill 5 borg ships".
I agree, change the enemy or change the oppossing units spawing for the current enemy. The Borg have demonstrated in canon that they utilize lesser combat and non-combat vessels. Include some or more Borg Probe vessels...like the 300m "Shoebox" variant...considered to e on par with a Intrepid class starship, include someof the 5 man Borg Scout Cubes...only 3m across. Include some intermediate class vessels as stop gaps leading up to a Sphere....etc, etc.
The 5 man sout cubes might be pushing it. I mean I know the borg are strong but they added those and could stand up to sustained phaser fire and a torpedo they'd be pushing it way too far. I like the shoeboxes though, if they were a match for an Intrepid they should be able to go 1 or 2 versus a Star Cruiser.
Are you not aware that there is and has been very large feedback threads on this on the Tribble forum when this was actually in testing?
I don't mean to come across like a jerk, but it's more than a bit disheartening/disconcerting to see you asking these questions now, after this has gone live.
well, before the patch, it wasn't all that often, but today i got borg 1/6th of the time.
The shoe box is perfect for multiple opponents, but even a 5-man Scout Cube could be in the worng place at the wrongtime and find itself engaged as filler content for cannon fodder during the fight
Ok... I admit to feeling silly about this but, I've been an RA5 for quite a while and B'Tran cluster daily is just not in the list of what I can do. Got all the pvp ones, and the STF entrance, but not even dropping any B'Tran quest has openned the PvE daily to me. I in fact did not know there was such a thing til last week when I hit G2 on my Klingon last week, and then I began looking for something similar for Feds to no avail as of yet.
It cost bme about 40,000 credits to repair my ship the rest of the way. I hipe some of this was toned down, especially the cost. I don't mind so much as an RA 5, but if an LT had that kind of damage, well that would cost as much as a replacement ship (almost).
The result would be that the mission "Secure System" cannot be completed. Then a warning would be necessary which says: Warning Borg cubes are not meant to be soloed. This would be contraproductive.
I fought a Borg Cube on Elite on Tribble a few days ago and died 5 times. To blow up the other mobs took as long as the cube alone.
The reason why the cube is so heavy is because its penetrant abuse of shield draining torpedoes which they chain one after an other. My record count was 8 Torpedoes. And then a very nice heavy plasma torpedo and you are junk. No way to counter that. No chance. And yes, I know I can shot HPPs but guess what it happens that my weapons are also on a cd sometimes.
So yes, Borg Cubes are some really bad.
@dstahl
I haven't met Borg since days in B'tran.
There are a lot of different people looking at the forums and Tribble from different perspectives. I happen to know more back-end specifics about how Star Clusters work than other team members and so when I saw this thread I was curious. There's also a chance that things can get bugged when posting the build to entirely different hardware (for one example - the map system requires shard specific files).
So I understand your frustration, but I'm looking for details so I can look into it from a different angle.
Perhaps a bit of clarification here. I seem to be misunderstood a little. I couldn't even kill a little old sphere let alone a cube.
I never got to the cube. I was being hozed by the very first sphere you encounter usually. An entity I could kill 7 days ago on Tribble with a resonalbel amount of effort. Now I could not take it down. I would be afraid of what a cube looks like.
If this is intential I have no problem with that. The Borg should be tough as nails. However as I said the discrepency between this week and last is what had me concerened.
Glad to see you say that.
Just so you understand. I never got pas the first SPHERE. I couldn't kill it. Heck I could barely get its shields down. Last time on Tribble I could, with some effort, take it down. This time I couldn't even come close. That is what had me concerned.
I would say the borgs are often the enemy in B'Tran Cluster Missions. Out of all the missions i did i would say i faced the borg in 40% of them. But since it is a cluster in borg space, i guess this makes sense. If you play in a group there are many cubes in a mission, in a group of 5 every group had 2 or 3 cubes. Solo you face only one cube at the end.
Today we faced the borg two times in an enemy confrontation mission and i think, as a group the borgs are to easy on elite (sure many of us died, but we adapted fast to the new difficulty). Especially the tac cube at the end, it takes forever to kill that thing, but it is hardly a threat. So please spice the difficulty up a little on elite for groups.
I would love for the plot to be the undine have taken borg form and redesigned their ships to look borg for some reason... to run tests or something... and all this time we never have even been fighting borgs...
weeee back to the big bads and poof instant reboot.
Did you even bother to read anything I posted? Your answer suggests not. There appears to be a marked difference between Elite Borg of a week ago and what I encountered on Live today. That is my question. So please stop the trolling and move on.
lol yea and especially the ones saying everything was just soooo easy to kill, but the bad thing about that now they are gonna cry saying its toooooooo hard, then next update we will go back to normal but little harder LOL. (god i hope not, keep it like it is.)
On Elite, I still pop ships quite easily in my escort.. and I am running Dual Phaser Beam Banks and Quantums.
When fighting Borg.. equip Plasma resistant armor (I run 2 consoles +30 Plasma resistance) and plasma resistant shields (Covariant with 20% plasma reduction).
I also keep my speed up and I use the 10 KM range to protect my ship, regenerate damage.. basically I zip in.. hit with abilities (Jam, Target shields, alpha, Omega, Beta.. when Jam wears off, Feedback, polerize hull, brace for impact, evasive and ramming speed to get out of range) outside range 10Km from target, I pop Engineering team, let sheilds regen some (shield battery) and then go back in using Tactical Team, Last Stand and Jam again..
Pop goes tha Borg Probe, Sphere, Cube.
On elite, I have yet to die..
Difficulty is not the issue.. Tactics and abilities and awareness is the key to winning.
If you can't pull it together on Elite, then step down to advanced until you master that setting, then come back to Elite.
It isn't that much harder.. just takes longer and makes you use your abilities properly and also makes you think of alternate tactics.. Range is your friend.. anything to disable you opponent is your friend.. Just adjust your BO abilities and your tactics and your equipment to where you PWN the borg on Elite..
they aren't that hard.. just a bit time consuming.