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Everyone who has killed the Crystal Entity, simply say aye! You also have the right to state how you think it was done.

All those who have not been in a mission where it was destroyed please dont drop off your theories, I want to find someone who has seen it blowup.

Actually is there a screenshot, YouTube? So many people saying how you do it and I've watched whole instance agree to follow instructions but always get to 30% then you know what happens. lol
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    killed it a dozen of times ... usually didnt last more then a minute ...
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Everyone who has killed the Crystal Entity, simply say aye! You also have the right to state how you think it was done.

    All those who have not been in a mission where it was destroyed please dont drop off your theories, I want to find someone who has seen it blowup.

    Actually is there a screenshot, YouTube? So many people saying how you do it and I've watched whole instance agree to follow instructions but always get to 30% then you know what happens. lol

    Please post more spoilers!

    /sarcasm
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    What are you flying, are you Admiral?
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    What are you flying, are you Admiral?

    no, but until very recently the thing was so **** easy that it just got zerged down
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Spoiler are you mad? Cryptic has injected mental frustration into players whos days have been spoiled because of the big oversized crystal lampshade
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Everyone who has killed the Crystal Entity, simply say aye! You also have the right to state how you think it was done.

    All those who have not been in a mission where it was destroyed please dont drop off your theories, I want to find someone who has seen it blowup.

    Actually is there a screenshot, YouTube? So many people saying how you do it and I've watched whole instance agree to follow instructions but always get to 30% then you know what happens. lol

    I didn’t know it was big deal to kill CE.

    Once I stumbled accidentely but few times I joined in.

    Being Lt Commnde 4 I can say my damage output was very low around 5% when the CE blew up

    Basically the leader just told us small ships to keep hitting the pawns and they will take on the CE

    So their were around 5 to 7 of us small ships we concentrated on the spawns while the commnander ships took it out .Took less than few minutes
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    ocharni wrote: »
    no, but until very recently the thing was so **** easy that it just got zerged down

    Are you drinking alcohollic beveridges my friend, I'm sorry to be so honest but its just me, I'm thinking you might be full of s*#t
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I didn’t know it was big deal to kill CE.

    Once I stumbled accidentely but few times I joined in.

    Being Lt Commnde 4 I can say my damage output was very low around 5% when the CE blew up

    Basically the leader just told us small ships to keep hitting the pawns and they will take on the CE

    So their were around 5 to 7 of us small ships we concentrated on the spawns while the commnander ships took it out .Took less than few minutes

    So what your saying is the heavy firepower needs to be on the CE, firepower most instances dont have if those guys you were talking about had way bigger ships.

    But yes I've been in 3 instances for 1 hour and we've never done. 30% then it goes back up. I said in there that we need more than Lt Comm which I am too.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    ocharni wrote: »
    no, but until very recently the thing was so **** easy that it just got zerged down

    I was joking by the way just my sense of humour but if you did do it, you must have been in with some powerfull ships. Am thinking all the STO addicts at admiral already done it day 1 then aint returning
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Killed it a couple days ago. There is a pretty good post somewhere with tips. From what we did I think it boils down to this. Don't shoot the shards, shoot the entity itself. Destroying shards appears to heal the entity. Had a fleet mate in with a group night before last, they got the entity down around 30% and someone came in and started spamming mines and shooting all the shards, took the entity back up to 90% in less than a minute.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I enjoyed the new CE Fleet Action. True, if people don't know what they're supposed to do it becomes an endurance test, mind you a rather frustrating one.

    Still, compared to the old CE it's soooooo much better. Seems like an epic accomplishement if you manage to kill it with a bunch of idiots :)
    Sure it became harder. And thank Cryptic for that! The game's way to easy as it is.

    Furthermore, it is my opinion that the skill cap needs to be destroyed!
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The bottom line is that you need to have everyone on board knowing what to do and not to.

    Just some tips, if you see...

    1. People using mines
    2. People taking runs at the entity and blowing up


    Then move to another instance. It will never die with behavior like that.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Shayde wrote: »
    The bottom line is that you need to have everyone on board knowing what to do and not to.

    Just some tips, if you see...

    1. People using mines
    2. People taking runs at the entity and blowing up


    Then move to another instance. It will never die with behavior like that.

    I gave up trying on Saturday night trying to get through it. Everyone was behaving like idiots in every instance I jumped to and people spamming "DROP MINES!"
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Everyone who has killed the Crystal Entity, simply say aye! You also have the right to state how you think it was done.

    All those who have not been in a mission where it was destroyed please dont drop off your theories, I want to find someone who has seen it blowup.

    Actually is there a screenshot, YouTube? So many people saying how you do it and I've watched whole instance agree to follow instructions but always get to 30% then you know what happens. lol

    Aye

    (Am I the only one who read the OP?)
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Everyone who has killed the Crystal Entity, simply say aye! You also have the right to state how you think it was done.

    All those who have not been in a mission where it was destroyed please dont drop off your theories, I want to find someone who has seen it blowup.

    Actually is there a screenshot, YouTube? So many people saying how you do it and I've watched whole instance agree to follow instructions but always get to 30% then you know what happens. lol

    It's EASY.... but it's actualy the ONLY thing in game that requires real teamwork and a challenge.

    My fleet can kill it DEAD in 5 mins flat.. EASY

    The problem is people just dont want to listen and work together.

    At 30% it's EASY to kill, one cruiser ram takes about 5% health.. once at 30%... 6-7 cruisers ram at once.. and BOOM.. instant CE DEATH.. best way to deal with it at 30%..
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    TallBear wrote:
    It's EASY.... but it's actualy the ONLY thing in game that requires real teamwork and a challenge.

    My fleet can kill it DEAD in 5 mins flat.. EASY

    The problem is people just dont want to listen and work together.

    At 30% it's EASY to kill, one cruiser ram takes about 5% health.. once at 30%... 6-7 cruisers ram at once.. and BOOM.. instant CE DEATH.. best way to deal with it at 30%..

    Problem is it takes only one idiot to f- it up, and there are people who get their jollies behaving like jerks.

    The CE is actually SOLOABLE if the game would allow you to not have anyone else in it...
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I was also unaware that this was a big deal...

    I joined the action, we all shot it for a while and it died. First time. Just make sure to redirect your fire to any shards heading for you.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    nothing yet.. was in an instance for about.. 30 or 40 minutes... never got it below about 23%.

    I pretty much fired on nothing but the CE, was too busy avoiding shards to see what anyone else was doing. There was a TON of conflicting messages in chat: Shoot the Shards at 30%. Don't Shoot the shards. Shoot the Small Shards. Only use Torpedoes on the CE. Don't get hit by the shards or it gets healed. Etc, etc....

    after 30+ minutes of what was at best a war of attrition, I decided to go do something more fun. I may try the CE again when I hit Admiral, but until then... pass.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    im RA5 nowadays but back in beta and in first week of headstart i took CE down a few times, and there is a way to do it, it involves kiting the shards as a group, teamwork is a big key in that mission
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Saw a guy in a cruiser kill it in 10 seconds.

    He rammed it, and continued to ram it every 5 mins (just in time for respawn, and his ram cool down)

    His name was at top of board each and every time.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I took a stab at it last night a failed. So, is the way to destroy it is not to kill its glass projectiles and only attack the main body, in a coordinator effort?
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Are you drinking alcohollic beveridges my friend, I'm sorry to be so honest but its just me, I'm thinking you might be full of s*#t

    He's not full of BS. Up until a few days ago Ramming speed worked on the CE. It made it rediculously easy to defeat. They removed that vulnerability and now it's much tougher.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ramming speed made life easy in the CE mission. Now that it's nerfed, I can only knock it down 3%-5% with it.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Hannigan wrote:
    after 30+ minutes of what was at best a war of attrition, I decided to go do something more fun. I may try the CE again when I hit Admiral, but until then... pass.

    The first time I went into that instance it died in a few minutes - we had a multitude of ships and just wailed on it. Really, it was a good skill point/hour instance. This was, as I now know, post buff too. I never really thought about it - I popped in, a shard hit me and one shot killed me, and I just avoided them whilst shooting at the CE. The thing died in minutes.

    The next times - well you got it right there. There were lots of instances of not enough people and the best one I was in could get it down to ~20% before it would jump back to 50-60%. I played for around 45 minutes and just went elsewhere.

    For myself I just let the episode stay in my log - if I cancel it then I get to see the flashy button wanting me to retake it. Personally I figure for an end-game raid it is just fine - I'm sure a competent team would do fine. For a LtComm episode? It's kinda strange to put what is arguably the hardest entity in the game at the *mid game* (at best) point. I sometimes stop by the instance and see what is going on - if I see a large enough group I guess it is an easy enough ~100 SP (100? Really? I spend 30 minutes in random space signals and get 300) and some random crappy item - not bad if I see the right team. The wrong one, and well just let it be unless I have nothing better to do.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I think its evident shooting the shards its totally alright and all those screaming "DON'T SHOOT THE SHARDS" need to get a reality check because thats almost impossible, plus they are fragments lol. Exploding ships, clicking on a shard when you try and target the entity etc.

    What is not allowed, is small fragments returning to the entity but despite this being made obvious, people still let them just fly by and into the entity. I realise now I've not struggled to destroy it because theres some hidden secret to its death but I've struggled because people just dont try hard. Auto fire, click on entity and fly around in circles thats some peoples game.

    However to actually shoot all the big fragments for protection then clear up the small ones and still be putting on enough firepower to take out the entity itself is a need for good ships.

    This is just a guess but I reckon 2-3 Commander level ships could be enough to tip the balance if they focus on the entity with another 5 Lt Comm. Rest clear the fragments small or big.

    All I know is some players screaming in there are more annoying than the CE, if I need to put up with that for another hour I'll mail weeks worth of my babys nappys to Cryptic with a big label on the bag saying "Crystal Entity"
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I think its evident shooting the shards its totally alright and all those screaming "DON'T SHOOT THE SHARDS" need to get a reality check because thats almost impossible, plus they are fragments lol. Exploding ships, clicking on a shard when you try and target the entity etc.

    What is not allowed, is small fragments returning to the entity but despite this being made obvious, people still let them just fly by and into the entity. I realise now I've not struggled to destroy it because theres some hidden secret to its death but I've struggled because people just dont try hard. Auto fire, click on entity and fly around in circles thats some peoples game.

    However to actually shoot all the big fragments for protection then clear up the small ones and still be putting on enough firepower to take out the entity itself is a need for good ships.

    This is just a guess but I reckon 2-3 Commander level ships could be enough to tip the balance if they focus on the entity with another 5 Lt Comm. Rest clear the fragments small or big.

    All I know is some players screaming in there are more annoying than the CE, if I need to put up with that for another hour I'll mail weeks worth of my babys nappys to Cryptic with a big label on the bag saying "Crystal Entity"

    I'm so with you on that!
    That power in engines and circling around it might work and it's good to gather the shard so you can take a couple out at a time with torpedo's. But if you die, and allot of people do, it creates a huge chaos. It's a risky strategy i rather see people control the shards.

    and cryptic should make it more clear what heals it with more flashy art, something like a energy beam or a bright coloured shard, or light breaking in it creating a aura. Besides the small fragments i think it heals when your ship is destroyed, and i whould like to see more effort of people trying to stay alive in general.

    also exploded shards don't disappear directly and still can damage you if you fly near it, witch is very annoying.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Everyone who has killed the Crystal Entity, simply say aye! You also have the right to state how you think it was done.

    All those who have not been in a mission where it was destroyed please dont drop off your theories, I want to find someone who has seen it blowup.

    Actually is there a screenshot, YouTube? So many people saying how you do it and I've watched whole instance agree to follow instructions but always get to 30% then you know what happens. lol

    http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g211/kathygamer/millionscore.jpg

    Thats my score after killing the thing.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    As for strategy...

    Theres really two best ways to do it.

    One is have everyone in a cruiser loaded with full phasers as weapons and just kite shards and blow up the thing. No one gets hit = it doesnt heal = it does fast.

    Other way is to get a literal line of escorts sitting at max firing range, then a couple of cruisers loaded with all phasers sitting behind them. Have escorts pulverize the boss while cruisers annihilate incoming shards, nobody moves.

    If you join the the encounter mid-fight, there will be like a billion shards up so you obviously cant kill them all fast enough before they get to your escorts, but if you start the encounter like this, you can keep shards under control and they wont have the chance to mass up in obscene numbers.

    Voila

    My opinion on this boss is summed up pretty nicely by what I said in guild chat in that screenshot.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Since the ramming speed bug has been removed I don't think anyone has managed to kill it. I am an Admiral and I have been to the battle both before and after the nerf and here is what happens in the fight.

    Normal Crystals: These just hit people and do damage, they ignore shields. These Crystals don't heal the Entity.

    Large Crystals: These spawn at 30% and deal damage to ships they hit and ignore shields. They do not heal the entity. When the large crystals explode on a ship the spawn several small crystals.

    Small Crystals: These can do damage to ships but they don't try to actively ram ships like the other types of crystals. These small crystals just try to fly back to the Entity and if they reach it they heal it.

    I see lots of people just shoot the large crystals as soon as they spawn and this is the main cause of it healing, you are supposed to kite the large crystals away from the entity (10km I think is the max distance but not sure) and then kill them and quickly kill the small crystals before they reach the entity and heal him.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Out of curiosity, how did the Enterprise defeat it?
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