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There are alot of folks..maxed out already...and complaining there is little end game....after what ?
10 days ?
ok, lets look forward....60 days...2 months, just about anyone now playing will be max capped.
how much end game stuff do you expect cryptic to come up with ?
Compared to most MMOs I have played, the game is...smallish.
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My question - Is the game too small for the IPs base ?
Will hardcore and moderately regular players just run out of stuff to do in a few months ?
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My opinion is that there is just not enuff content in game. That, in turn, forces cryptic
to keep advancement fast...they can't slow it down because if they increased
the required experience required to advance...you would run out of stuff to advance you
before the next tier.
The trip from start to max is very short (compared to other MMOs) and they think they
can provide new endgame content fast enuff to keep everyone happy.
Fig. the odds.
10 days ?
ok, lets look forward....60 days...2 months, just about anyone now playing will be max capped.
how much end game stuff do you expect cryptic to come up with ?
Compared to most MMOs I have played, the game is...smallish.
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My question - Is the game too small for the IPs base ?
Will hardcore and moderately regular players just run out of stuff to do in a few months ?
*****************************************************************************************************
My opinion is that there is just not enuff content in game. That, in turn, forces cryptic
to keep advancement fast...they can't slow it down because if they increased
the required experience required to advance...you would run out of stuff to advance you
before the next tier.
The trip from start to max is very short (compared to other MMOs) and they think they
can provide new endgame content fast enuff to keep everyone happy.
Fig. the odds.
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No seriously. Most MMO have this problem. You will always get people that will live, breath an MMO. They will max out in no time no matter what the MMO.
I have only got too commander but in OB I got way past commander in a few days. Its a lot down to balance IMO. Its too easy atm to just sit in an instance and reap the XP reward and not even do a single thing. Cause there's no Death penalty, What does it matter if I die 20 or a 100 times.
They will flash the game out. In the mean time all I can say to the Admirals is Well done you Won the Game. Pat yourself on the back and then go back to WoW and post lots on STOs forums about Fail, Craptic and no content!
I will enjoy the game and take it at a nice slow pace.
The game need improvement, and yes its small for the IP but it will grow. But lets be honest there is no humanly possible way it will grow to be EVERYTHING that is Star Trek. Anyways I am getting away from the original point. Its may be short on content now, and yes they have stuff already being added towards making end game a bit better. But even then they will not be able to keep up or even close at this rate.
Cryptics best bet would be to slow player progression would be my guess anyways.
No more content boo... But it's not the end of the world, there'll be more, and I still have 2 more character slots
Besides, if I have to I can take a break. By no means is this a bad game, I've enjoyed it so far, and still do ^.^
I have Anti-Proton weaponary to get anyway, so I guess the game isn't over :P.
Good game, people whining about getting Rear Admiral 5, maybe they should have taken time to read everything, or maybe had a break if they didn't want to run out of content.
at the moment the game is too small but i suspect that will change soon.
in the navy (and star trek) there are 4 ranks of admiral...and that is about it
the top admiral rank is usually just 1 person...they represent starfleet to the president
sortta like the army has 1 top general, second only to the sec. of defense and the president.
so...if they held to that, there would be 2 more playable ranks...kinda
but take all that with a grain of salt
Perhaps as the game progresses, Ranks won't be everything, maybe they have other things in store :P.
Anything above Rear Admiral (lower) - what we have now - is completely absurd IMO, unless they start assigning us NPC fleets instead of just bridge officers. Well, honestly, I think even Rear Admiral is silly as part of the standard progression and all the flag ranks should have been merely cosmetic and reserved for Fleet administrative roles.
Not sure if leveling from 15 to 45 is slower then 1 to 15, but if it is expotentially slower then 1 to 15, at least on my client 1 to 15 took a few days of play, which is about normal.
If the Admirals exploited or have some bonus like bonuses that make missions really quick, then that could explain it.
But the thing is, all the skills and the ideas of moving up in rank, is part of the game, if it is gone in a couple weeks, it makes the game harder to have a longevity.
Yes, some of the content is repetitive but the switching between ground and space combat helps mix it up and the story missions are always fun - I've got lots more to look forward to on the way to RA and I don't intend to hurry it.
No, 15 to 45 isn't even arithmetically slower than 1-15. The level cost increase curve is the shallowest I've seen in any CRPG, to the point where Captain and Admiral levels actually take the same number of SP each.
I totally feel this.
I really like STO. But I often wonder how in the world will I still be finding it entertaining 3 months from now. I was hoping for a longer haul but how?? Even if I make alts and level them all up it couldnt possibly last longer than three months.
I also realize Cryptic will be releasing content updates but Im not optimistic that its going to add an overwhelming amount to the game in such a short time.
I wanted to play this game longer and I like it. But I dont think thats going to happen.
Rear Admiral (Lower Half) is equivalent to Commodore as you've pointed out. I would have liked them to include Commodore as well but within the context of the show, the r ank of Commodore was retired by the end of the 23rd century and replaced with Rear Admiral (Lower Half)
Assuming Cryptic isn't stupid and lets us all get to 51 and we become Vice Admirals than they ought to be able to get that level cap up to 60 before they have to worry about moving us to the next Admiral type. If they do Vice Admiral, the level cap could effectively become 70. The Trek Universe makes a distinction between Admiral and Fleet Admiral, with Fleet Admiral being the head of Starfleet or whatever so I suppose they could let us have just Admiral after Vice Admiral, which would get the cap to 80.
That'd be a pretty substantial increase, and hopefully they'll have time to design it so that 51 to 60 is longer than 1 to 45 was. I'd also have nothing against them requiring more grades between promotions (like you have to hit RA (Upper Half) 20 to get Vice Admiral or something) which would add even more levels.
Though at this point it's all speculation. The good news is that within the rank structure they've introduced, they do have a route to go. Maybe it's a bit "unrealistic" to have an entire playerbase "filled" with Admirals but meh, whatever. It's an MMO, by it's very nature there's a degree of immersion-breaking.
Think about it. This is Star Trek. Even once we all attain Read Admiral we have come no where close to exploring the bounds of Federation known space. There is the Delta Quadrant, the Bajoran Worm hole, the Zindi, the Great Expanse, the Dominion....on and on and on and on. Even if they just make continued sectors for exploration and discovery of newer and more high tech items. Maybe even come up with ways to obtain non federation technology and allows its use on our Federation craft the limits are pretty wide open. Additionally over time many more races and worlds will join the Federation and be playable and/or have their unique officers with very unique skills made available for service aboard our craft.
Granted I can't say just how imaginative the Dev's will be in this regard, but I can surely see how just one person like myself who has seen every episode of every Star Trek series and movie, could envision so many options to make this game never ending.
So I am extremely hopeful that the Dev's will see all of this and make very good use of the Star Trek history.
You said that now.
You will get bored soon enough.
You don't know me. So you don't know that.
You know they will be adding content, repairing, and getting better all around.
Since you know all this, I say you are trolling.
It's a troll with reasons. And good grammar. not a ,OMGZ I CAN NOT FIND SULU HELP MEH 111!!!one!, troll.
True enough.
But well, if really you don't get bored then you must play what ? 1 hour per week ?
Anyway, speaking of way to make the game less boring, wouldn't be really nice to have missions only available if you're for example an escort captain or a science ?
Don't know, a new contact could give you specific class missions as "escort a convoy" or "search for an old artefact".
I play 1-2 hours a day. I've a lot of other things to do as well.
OT. We need holodecks.
No, but the trend since the beginning of CB has been that people who've only played a little thought the game was great with near uniformity but longer-term opinions were much more mixed. It's a statistically plausible prediction.