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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,509 Arc User
    edited December 22
    Picard wasn't French.

    Mostly because Patrick Stewart thought that speaking with a French accent would mean he'd have to roleplay a pirate.

    Accent means nothing. My sister's kids are half French-half English, live in France most of their lives, and can speak perfect English without a tinge of a French accent.

    Picard was still French.

    I apparently have a bit of an American accent, even though I have never lived there. I also have a bit of a Queen's English accent when I am on the phone or teach. I am from Lancashire in England!! Whilst where you are from has bearing on accent, your immediate environment affects it more. Picard was presumable educated in London.
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  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,939 Arc User
    edited December 22
    It sucks that the team has departed. i do hope the new devs can come up to speed fast enough. now as to why they left.. if they had the option to stay on, just shift hours, and the chose to leave, that's on them. personally i would LOVE to work 5-1 and have the mornings free to get stuff done.
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  • risian4#5049 risian4 Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited December 23
    leemwatson wrote: »
    Picard wasn't French.

    Mostly because Patrick Stewart thought that speaking with a French accent would mean he'd have to roleplay a pirate.

    Accent means nothing. My sister's kids are half French-half English, live in France most of their lives, and can speak perfect English without a tinge of a French accent.

    Picard was still French.

    I apparently have a bit of an American accent, even though I have never lived there. I also have a bit of a Queen's English accent when I am on the phone or teach. I am from Lancashire in England!! Whilst where you are from has bearing on accent, your immediate environment affects it more. Picard was presumable educated in London.

    I don't find it believable, so I refuse to accept it.

    They should've just let him speak with an accent - if necessary, by a different and qualified actor, someone who understood that sounding like a Frenchman doesn't equal RP'ing as a pirate. I mean, where did Patrick even get that silly idea?

    Or just change his bio. If he's practically an Englishman, might as well let him be from England. The way they chose to do it is laughable and makes it difficult for me to take the Picard character serious. Maybe it was intentional, to show that birthplace matters no more in the far future. It's not very realistic though, and I think that for the audience at large it would be nice to have characters that are a bit grounded, if a writer is going to put emphasis on it, instead of... Well, being from everywhere and nowhere at the same time.

    Anyway, I don't even remember why this became a topic, it seems to have little to do with the developers of this game. :D
  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,566 Arc User
    Unless there's a serious problem with old developers I don't think it's ever good to see them go. They tend to be the ones most familiar with the code base and to get things done quicker.
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  • scottie270182#2421 scottie270182 Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited December 23
    Anyway, I don't even remember why this became a topic, it seems to have little to do with the developers of this game. :D
    Don't worry, I'm happy to remind you. You said that a French character with a French name who has a French accent when he speaks French, isn't French because when he speaks English he has an English accent. ;)

    Good lord, I don't think I've said the word French so many times since I was at Senior School.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,473 Arc User
    They should've just let him speak with an accent - if necessary, by a different and qualified actor, someone who understood that sounding like a Frenchman doesn't equal RP'ing as a pirate. I mean, where did Patrick even get that silly idea?
    He didn't. I don't know where Risian got that silly story from. Stewart didn't use a French accent because his French accent sucks - he demonstrated that on an episode of The Graham Norton Show. Only time Stewart RP'd as a pirate was in an episode of PIC where he was posing as the sort of person who'd sell off an xB for parts.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,897 Arc User
    Will have to see how things turn out more...see how 2025 goes

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  • risian4#5049 risian4 Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    Anyway, I don't even remember why this became a topic, it seems to have little to do with the developers of this game. :D
    Don't worry, I'm happy to remind you. You said that a French character with a French name who has a French accent when he speaks French, isn't French because when he speaks English he has an English accent. ;)

    Good lord, I don't think I've said the word French so many times since I was at Senior School.

    Nope, I didn't start it, I responded to someone else. Topic was already under discussion then.
    jonsills wrote: »
    They should've just let him speak with an accent - if necessary, by a different and qualified actor, someone who understood that sounding like a Frenchman doesn't equal RP'ing as a pirate. I mean, where did Patrick even get that silly idea?
    He didn't. I don't know where Risian got that silly story from. Stewart didn't use a French accent because his French accent sucks - he demonstrated that on an episode of The Graham Norton Show. Only time Stewart RP'd as a pirate was in an episode of PIC where he was posing as the sort of person who'd sell off an xB for parts.

    There was a fragment - I'm not sure whether we're talking of the same show where he demonstrated it, I saw it quite some time ago somewhere - where he 'demonstrated' that Picard sounding French would have sounded silly. Truth is, it was just because he made it sound silly by, for some odd reason, talking like a pirate in a cartoon (think the one from Spongebob's theme song) would.

    That's where I'm coming from. It's not that a French sounding Picard would have to sound silly, it's just that Stewart apparently didn't understand that he could have talked like a French guy without changing his voice and sounding pirate-like.
  • risian4#5049 risian4 Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    Found the fragment.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV10in63_Ok

    He made it sound more silly than it had/would have had to be.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,690 Arc User
    edited December 24
    The primary audience for TNG was the USA, so an English accent made better business sense than a French one. A "classy" accent instead of a "foreign" one. Even that was slightly less safe than an American accent like Kirk faked. You never once heard Kirk say aboot or eh while drinking a six of Molson ;)
  • inferiorityinferiority Member Posts: 4,446 Arc User
    Found the fragment.
    Somebody's been clipping Graham Norton into the show...
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  • splattysplatty Member Posts: 146 Arc User
    So the topic really should be asking whether you're happy that management has changed.

    At the risk of actually dragging this thread back on topic, yes, (with a couple of exceptions of some senior staff like Jesse Heinig) I think this game needed a management change from the senior managers/producers up to the top. I had no problems with the previous dev teams themselves so no, not "happy" most have been replaced.

    I find it interesting for Embracer to take an established studio with licensed IP(s), and take the massive risk of hiring new staff at a different studio to take over that product, based on the previous studios game engine, and the no doubt very expensive legal wranglings of transferring the IP licenses over from a US company to a euro one. From what I gather, at least some of the devs were offered roles at DECA so the only thing achieved would be just that, changing management.

    Cryptics still supposed to remain in control over the US servers and infrastructure, I think the support teams are also remaining as is, and DECA being based in Germany will have horrendous tax rates etc, so its not a cost cutting measure...
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