With the new auto fitting an EV suit (QoL Mechanic) getting a rebreather on any toon apart from a Romulan is now impossible,
I believe having the Auto fitting EV suit as a Tickable Option in game Options would be a better use for this QoL Mechanic.
What do you think?
Would you prefer to have the Auto Fitting EV suits as an Optional in ingame Options 12 votes
Yes, Having the Auto Fitting EV suit QoL Mechanic as an ingame Option would be better.
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10 votes
No, Having the Auto Fitting EV suit QoL Mechanic as an ingame Option would not be better.
This is not a bug. Thread /moved to General Discussion.
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> @guyc71 said: > Actually this QoL Mechanic is Bugging out all toons except Romulans! from being able to get the Rebreather, > so Yes its a purposefully coded BUG!
A bug is never purposefully coded. If anything this might be an oversight.
I liked having manual control over the EV suit and there are still situations where it could be useful (e.g. certain areas on Nukara where you can float in transparent lava and not die or beam out due to taking minute damage).
That being said, i am sure everyone has had more than once encounter with someone running into a Nukara TFO map without an activated EV suit before they were automatic.
This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
This is not a bug. Thread /moved to General Discussion.
Actually this QoL Mechanic is Bugging out all toons except Romulans! from being able to get the Rebreather,
so Yes its a purposefully coded BUG!
"Purposefully coded"... the very definition of NOT a bug.
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Now apart from looks and few edge cases (where you would want to be able to take damage from some hazards but not all), I don't really see why you'd need rebreathers as EV suits do everything they do and more.
Yes, Having the Auto Fitting EV suit QoL Mechanic as an ingame Option would be better.
Yes, this mechanic "bugs" me. I think it's invasive to be "forced" to wear an EV suit when a simple re-breather is often all that's needed. This reminds me of the silly seat belt laws that came into effect in the 1970's.
Yes, Having the Auto Fitting EV suit QoL Mechanic as an ingame Option would be better.
Yes, we need to be able to use breathers when it's just gases. Remember, the EV suit replaces your armor and breaks set bonuses when activated. That can be a problem for many builds, and it's almost always a loss of armor effectiveness.
Why not just rename "Re-Breathers" to "Life Support Belts" (canon now from TOS) - make them work in any hostile STO game environment; and then allow them to be slotted in the EVA character slot.
Does it really take that much STO Dev time to alter a few entries/properties in their item database?
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This is not a bug. Thread /moved to General Discussion.
Actually this QoL Mechanic is Bugging out all toons except Romulans! from being able to get the Rebreather,
so Yes its a purposefully coded BUG!
"Purposefully coded"... the very definition of NOT a bug.
Bug is the only thing we are able to report, also saying bug instead of F..K Up, is more polite.
Because adding in this QoL code has Bugged/F..K'd Up every other toon except romulans from being able to receive a rebreather,
Hence, as i called it a Purposefully Coded Bug. which it is.
and the easiest way to debug this added Purposefull QoL coding, would be to have it made as an optional choice, in ingame options.
Yes, we need to be able to use breathers when it's just gases. Remember, the EV suit replaces your armor and breaks set bonuses when activated. That can be a problem for many builds, and it's almost always a loss of armor effectiveness.
Exactly, the point of having rebreathers on all toons and boffs, to use the set bonuses,
You get it
unequp the ev suit run the mission to get the rebreather. WFIW I have never found the rebreathers except as a romulan
Unequiping your suit, makes no difference, when spawning into a toxic environment,
even with all your EV suits in your bank, the game auto slots a cheap EV suit,
hence my poll and post
This is not a bug. Thread /moved to General Discussion.
Actually this QoL Mechanic is Bugging out all toons except Romulans! from being able to get the Rebreather,
so Yes its a purposefully coded BUG!
"Purposefully coded"... the very definition of NOT a bug.
Bug is the only thing we are able to report, also saying bug instead of F..K Up, is more polite.
Because adding in this QoL code has Bugged/F..K'd Up every other toon except romulans from being able to receive a rebreather,
Hence, as i called it a Purposefully Coded Bug. which it is.
and the easiest way to debug this added Purposefull QoL coding, would be to have it made as an optional choice, in ingame options.
This is a polling thread, though. Not something that goes in the Bug Reports subforum. This sort of opinion seeking is best done in General Discussion.
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Yes, we need to be able to use breathers when it's just gases. Remember, the EV suit replaces your armor and breaks set bonuses when activated. That can be a problem for many builds, and it's almost always a loss of armor effectiveness.
Exactly, the point of having rebreathers on all toons and boffs, to use the set bonuses,
You get it
Only wearing an oxy mask makes no sense for Nukara, the Tholian ship, spacewalking with Kurland Here, etc.
Aside from the Elachi episodes, where is wearing a rebreather enough to protect you?
This is not a bug. Thread /moved to General Discussion.
Actually this QoL Mechanic is Bugging out all toons except Romulans! from being able to get the Rebreather,
so Yes its a purposefully coded BUG!
"Purposefully coded"... the very definition of NOT a bug.
Bug is the only thing we are able to report, also saying bug instead of F..K Up, is more polite.
Because adding in this QoL code has Bugged/F..K'd Up every other toon except romulans from being able to receive a rebreather,
Hence, as i called it a Purposefully Coded Bug. which it is.
and the easiest way to debug this added Purposefull QoL coding, would be to have it made as an optional choice, in ingame options.
This is a polling thread, though. Not something that goes in the Bug Reports subforum. This sort of opinion seeking is best done in General Discussion.
Ok that makes sense, maybe I should make a new non poll bug post,
but also i wanted to know other players thought's on this hence the Poll.
because if this is/was the Dev's intention to stopping all toons from getting the rebreather,
then why did they keep the Rebreather in game as an award in the Romulan "Vengeance" mission chain.
And if the Romulans can have them, why not all toons, like in the past.
The easiest way around this error/issue/bug would be to add the auto EV fitting as an ingame optional choice.
Yes, we need to be able to use breathers when it's just gases. Remember, the EV suit replaces your armor and breaks set bonuses when activated. That can be a problem for many builds, and it's almost always a loss of armor effectiveness.
Exactly, the point of having rebreathers on all toons and boffs, to use the set bonuses,
You get it
Only wearing an oxy mask makes no sense for Nukara, the Tholian ship, spacewalking with Kurland Here, etc.
Aside from the Elachi episodes, where is wearing a rebreather enough to protect you?
There is the Kentari Homeworld in New Frontiers Story Arc, and what if they decided to add more toxic worlds at a later date?
Yes, we need to be able to use breathers when it's just gases. Remember, the EV suit replaces your armor and breaks set bonuses when activated. That can be a problem for many builds, and it's almost always a loss of armor effectiveness.
Exactly, the point of having rebreathers on all toons and boffs, to use the set bonuses,
You get it
Only wearing an oxy mask makes no sense for Nukara, the Tholian ship, spacewalking with Kurland Here, etc.
Aside from the Elachi episodes, where is wearing a rebreather enough to protect you?
There is the Kentari Homeworld in New Frontiers Story Arc, and what if they decided to add more toxic worlds at a later date?
Just ran that mission yesterday on my principal alt. Was in my EV suit the whole way until I got the Kentari Prime Minister's office. Personally, I feel they should just do away with the rebreathers and be done with them. One less thing to worry about keeping if we already have something else that can do the same function (and more). My two ec.
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> @sthe91 said: > > @guyc71 said: > > Actually this QoL Mechanic is Bugging out all toons except Romulans! from being able to get the Rebreather, > > so Yes its a purposefully coded BUG! > > A bug is never purposefully coded. If anything this might be an oversight. > > P.S. I find the poll biased.
A linguistic bug may be an oversight, it's still a bug.
Yes, Having the Auto Fitting EV suit QoL Mechanic as an ingame Option would be better.
Ok, so going on what I have noticed so far, at time of me now posting this comment, there has been 221 views, 10 Votes, and currently 80% of voters think this QoL Mechanic (Auto Fitting EV suits) would be better if it was an Optional choice.
So I am going to wait a while maybe a week or so to see if more votes arrive.
Thank you All for your Comment's and Vote's.
Since this is ongoing i will clarify my previous comment.
I feel the mechanic of the rebreather is nice and i would like to see some use for it. E.g. content where EV suits are artificially disabled. I would also like to see a rebreather included in the kentari ground set.
Being able to manually enable/disable your EV suit would have uses in maps where one can fall of the map (e.g. Nukara with the transparent Lava and being unable to die/beam out since you continuously take damage).
BUT as most of us probably remember people entering a Nukara ground TFO without having their EV suit activated (either because of ignorance or as a mean to grief others) i feel the benefits of an automatic EV suit mechanic outweigh the cons with regard to role play with rebreathers.
This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
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Actually this QoL Mechanic is Bugging out all toons except Romulans! from being able to get the Rebreather,
so Yes its a purposefully coded BUG!
> Actually this QoL Mechanic is Bugging out all toons except Romulans! from being able to get the Rebreather,
> so Yes its a purposefully coded BUG!
A bug is never purposefully coded. If anything this might be an oversight.
P.S. I find the poll biased.
That being said, i am sure everyone has had more than once encounter with someone running into a Nukara TFO map without an activated EV suit before they were automatic.
"Purposefully coded"... the very definition of NOT a bug.
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If some collectors "need" to own a rebreather then maybe add it to the replicator? Or just accept that some items become obsolete as the game evolves.
Does it really take that much STO Dev time to alter a few entries/properties in their item database?
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Bug is the only thing we are able to report, also saying bug instead of F..K Up, is more polite.
Because adding in this QoL code has Bugged/F..K'd Up every other toon except romulans from being able to receive a rebreather,
Hence, as i called it a Purposefully Coded Bug. which it is.
and the easiest way to debug this added Purposefull QoL coding, would be to have it made as an optional choice, in ingame options.
Exactly, the point of having rebreathers on all toons and boffs, to use the set bonuses,
You get it
Unequiping your suit, makes no difference, when spawning into a toxic environment,
even with all your EV suits in your bank, the game auto slots a cheap EV suit,
hence my poll and post
This is a polling thread, though. Not something that goes in the Bug Reports subforum. This sort of opinion seeking is best done in General Discussion.
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Only wearing an oxy mask makes no sense for Nukara, the Tholian ship, spacewalking with Kurland Here, etc.
Aside from the Elachi episodes, where is wearing a rebreather enough to protect you?
Ok that makes sense, maybe I should make a new non poll bug post,
but also i wanted to know other players thought's on this hence the Poll.
because if this is/was the Dev's intention to stopping all toons from getting the rebreather,
then why did they keep the Rebreather in game as an award in the Romulan "Vengeance" mission chain.
And if the Romulans can have them, why not all toons, like in the past.
The easiest way around this error/issue/bug would be to add the auto EV fitting as an ingame optional choice.
There is the Kentari Homeworld in New Frontiers Story Arc, and what if they decided to add more toxic worlds at a later date?
Just ran that mission yesterday on my principal alt. Was in my EV suit the whole way until I got the Kentari Prime Minister's office. Personally, I feel they should just do away with the rebreathers and be done with them. One less thing to worry about keeping if we already have something else that can do the same function (and more). My two ec.
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> > @guyc71 said:
> > Actually this QoL Mechanic is Bugging out all toons except Romulans! from being able to get the Rebreather,
> > so Yes its a purposefully coded BUG!
>
> A bug is never purposefully coded. If anything this might be an oversight.
>
> P.S. I find the poll biased.
A linguistic bug may be an oversight, it's still a bug.
So I am going to wait a while maybe a week or so to see if more votes arrive.
Thank you All for your Comment's and Vote's.
I feel the mechanic of the rebreather is nice and i would like to see some use for it. E.g. content where EV suits are artificially disabled. I would also like to see a rebreather included in the kentari ground set.
Being able to manually enable/disable your EV suit would have uses in maps where one can fall of the map (e.g. Nukara with the transparent Lava and being unable to die/beam out since you continuously take damage).
BUT as most of us probably remember people entering a Nukara ground TFO without having their EV suit activated (either because of ignorance or as a mean to grief others) i feel the benefits of an automatic EV suit mechanic outweigh the cons with regard to role play with rebreathers.