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So... I know I've done this mission a few times before on other characters, and I do still remember it being bad because there's just no way to fight so many of the enemies.
For a start, ALL the Vaadwaur are ridiculously durable, and they appear in such large numbers that it practically takes a miracle to avoid your away team being wiped out during every fight. THEN they send those Overseers, who basically take NO damage from anything, and oneshot every single one of your away team, then twoshot the player character as well. Fighting one of them means somewhere on the order of 20-25 team wipes before you manage to whittle him down.
Then you get to the final battle with Gaul and his various troops, and again you're just constantly swamped by numbers, then another undefeatable Overseer... Gaul himself is actually a reasonable fight... but then he comes back with another army of troops AND critters AND invulnerability casting doodads and technicians... It's another battle where it's just wipe, wipe, wipe, wipe, wipe... repeat over and over and over until you defeat ONE enemy, wipe another 20 times, defeat a second enemy, wipe 10 or 15 more times and so on until you finally beat Gaul.
Maybe some people find this level of difficulty fun... but I really don't. There's just no way I could possibly ever defeat this mission without at least 40 or 50 full wipes. It just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. There's no thrill of victory for having overcome a difficult foe... because I didn't. I just wore it down because it couldn't actually defeat me (because respawns).
I know, this is old, OLD news, but I needed to vent. Fights like this just strike me as bad design. I hope they don't go back to making missions this ridiculous.
For a start, ALL the Vaadwaur are ridiculously durable, and they appear in such large numbers that it practically takes a miracle to avoid your away team being wiped out during every fight. THEN they send those Overseers, who basically take NO damage from anything, and oneshot every single one of your away team, then twoshot the player character as well. Fighting one of them means somewhere on the order of 20-25 team wipes before you manage to whittle him down.
Then you get to the final battle with Gaul and his various troops, and again you're just constantly swamped by numbers, then another undefeatable Overseer... Gaul himself is actually a reasonable fight... but then he comes back with another army of troops AND critters AND invulnerability casting doodads and technicians... It's another battle where it's just wipe, wipe, wipe, wipe, wipe... repeat over and over and over until you defeat ONE enemy, wipe another 20 times, defeat a second enemy, wipe 10 or 15 more times and so on until you finally beat Gaul.
Maybe some people find this level of difficulty fun... but I really don't. There's just no way I could possibly ever defeat this mission without at least 40 or 50 full wipes. It just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. There's no thrill of victory for having overcome a difficult foe... because I didn't. I just wore it down because it couldn't actually defeat me (because respawns).
I know, this is old, OLD news, but I needed to vent. Fights like this just strike me as bad design. I hope they don't go back to making missions this ridiculous.
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This game needs detailed crafting, exploration and interaction systems.
This game needs detailed crafting, exploration and interaction systems.
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Which does make me wonder, what level is your character at, what is the quality of your gear, and how far along are you with endeavors?
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A point to make here; it's easier to beat him on console than PC as you can set up your conditional triggers.
Why even bother to upgrade for a mission boss. It's not as if that boss is particular difficult.
Against that boss gear mark XI rare should be more than sufficient.
If there is any worthwhile advice then it is to keep the synergy between kit modules/captain powers for your class in mind.
Other than that it is always possible to go lazy and spam event kit modules on him.
Don't be ashamed of equipping Rep gear. I don't follow Meta, and I care not for it either. All gear adds to survivability when it is properly upgraded. There's no excuse to not upgrade gear, it's cheap enough.
Only edge that character has is a finished endeavor system, but i feel the vaadwaur are not the challenge they used to be even without reputation or upgraded gear.
Just remember to roll with the (not so proverbial) punches to prevent a stun from the Gaul Jump/charge.
Melee does work, but beware of melee weapons which ground your character movement.
A circular motion with a minigun or assault rifle is effective since Gaul has difficulties aiming.
Edit: a circular motion with a split beam or wide beam rifle or a Boolian/Jax Phaser cannon also work.
Edit 2: If you experience difficulties with the drones then electric damage type is helpful. Think Sompek shotgun, Tsunkate glove or, if you can stand the purple glow, the lukari reputation ground set.