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colonelmarik
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So, I'm playing through some episodes on one of my alts, and I've reached the last mission in the J'Ula's Discovery arc, where you are sent on a bunch of kind of lame "simulations" by the Excalbians. I'm at the point where I'm sent into the battle on Iconia, where you have to fight T'Ket and 11 billion minions, by yourself, with no away team.
It's literally impossible to do without some form of invulnerability, or so it seems. If I didn't have the Na'kuhl shield equipped, I'd be instantly killed over and over, and would never be able to activate the consoles. As it is, the second I finish the console, I'm just instantly killed, over and over until I get to the next console, then if I'm invulnerable in that moment, I get to activate it, then get instantly killed over and over until the next one... and so on.
You go in with ONE away team member from your ship, but he'll be instantly killed immediately, and while you supposedly get help from Seven, Burnham and two Iconians... they don't actually DO anything, and you take all the fire from all the enemies, every time.
So, I'm curious. How did you guys find this mission? How did you accomplish it? It seems flat out impossible without that Na'kuhl shield...
It's literally impossible to do without some form of invulnerability, or so it seems. If I didn't have the Na'kuhl shield equipped, I'd be instantly killed over and over, and would never be able to activate the consoles. As it is, the second I finish the console, I'm just instantly killed, over and over until I get to the next console, then if I'm invulnerable in that moment, I get to activate it, then get instantly killed over and over until the next one... and so on.
You go in with ONE away team member from your ship, but he'll be instantly killed immediately, and while you supposedly get help from Seven, Burnham and two Iconians... they don't actually DO anything, and you take all the fire from all the enemies, every time.
So, I'm curious. How did you guys find this mission? How did you accomplish it? It seems flat out impossible without that Na'kuhl shield...
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Had no issue, and I use Sci main. I also use the Na'kuhl shield and my gear is all epic.
The mission came out before we had lazer targs and a lot of the crazy clickies, so I imagine it would be easier with all the spam bar TRIBBLE we got the last two years. But it was still challenging. I remember dying a lot fighting T’ket of Borg especially the first time through it.
You’ll figure it out I’m sure. (Assuming control doesn’t get stuck).
Personally I used the Gravitational Juncture to group them up (think that's the name of it) and blasted them down with the Tzenkethi minigun. I play a heavy gunner type setup on my main so lots of armor and lots of blasting. I did use the voth laser dino because I had it on me but aside from that, just better control of the foes and going from there. You don't need a ton of DPS to get through it, you just need to be able to control the field better and pick off problem foes.
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Done it years ago, personally I don't use Na'Kuhl shields on any of my characters, If your Boff dies instantly, maybe give them better gear?
Thinking of ideas from lots of games for, dunno how long now.
Another trick which works well with engineers is the romulan operative set. You can cloak, drop mines and watch the proverbial fireworks.
Easiest build against ground based NPC: Romulan Operative set
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Furtive_Perseverance#Romulan_Operative_Combat_Armor
Cannibal Tribble (important)
Reveal Mine Trap kit module
Later on you can play around with intel/command kit modules to stay hidden/get damage boosts.
Also, swap out the shield generator for Sabotage. It's fairly cheap right now in the Exchange. It's going to be your best friend as an Engineer for damage mitigation unless you're fighting against foes that primarily do melee damage (e.g. Hurq, Bug Hunt, etc.). If you can't afford it, you can use Weapons Malfunction instead. Sabotage is better because it's a guaranteed AoE version of that skill.
The generators actually do very little for survivability in Ground especially since NPC mobs would typically destroy them right after you create one.
You'll have much better shield heal performance as an engineer using Shield Recharger (large shield heal on very fast cooldown) or Shield Pulse (small radius PbAoE shield heal with decent shield resistance). You can use both and actually shield tank in ground (which is a viable ground build for Engineers, unlike in Space). Use Large Hypo for HP heals.
By the way, what kind of Officer is your single Away Team member in the mission? Hopefully, it's a Science Officer who's trained to be a "healbot support" (Any skill-I personally like Intel's Incite Chaos 1 for CC, Tricorder Scan 1, Medical Tricorder 3, Vascular Regenerator 3).
Hope we helped. Cheers! o7
Edit: If you have the Reputation Rank, you can also use the Emergency Personal Cloaking Device (Personal Reputation Trait) that automatically activates when your HP goes too low. It's a life saver when things get too crazy.
I just played this mission on normal.. The Measure of Morality Pt 2. Did it with an engineer with one away team member I chose that was a science officer that was part healer and part support with Strategic Analysis, Return Fire, Medical Tricorder, and Nanite Health Monitor. Jack of all trades sort of thing.
I used the Na'kuhl shield as well. It's very nice. Used it with Burnham's CQC Armor (DSC reputation) and the Na'kuhl gun (mission reward) as a secondary weapon. No idea what's going on with T'Ket as I was watching TV. Maybe the whole thing is on a timer? I wasn't really paying attention.
Everything else (not T'ket) died instantly upon activating various offensive kit modules as I went from console to console. I had to crouch behind cover a couple times to regain hit points. Used a large hypo. I don't use "support" engineer kit modules (shield or medical generators, etc) because they tie me to one spot and don't do any damage. My ground skill tree is below.
Yes. Very little help from the rest of the gang.
Well, as above, it was interrupting the evening news but certainly does highlight the Na'kuhl shield and it's handy "Time Slip" invulnerability. You can take a beating all day long with that thing. I won't leave home without it.
My ground skill tree..
Kit Modules..
Chroniton Mine Barrier, Anchor of Gre'thor, Solar Gateway, Chain Conduit Capacitor, Ambush Turret Fabrication, Gravity Containment Unit.
Blue Mark XI is more than enough for content on normal difficulty. Anything above that just makes it easier.
Once you master the basics of ground combat and learn the specifics mark XI is even overkill for most content.
I guess the OP was having similar issues since he's having trouble with the mission with MK 11/12 equipment so I suggested to upgrade to higher Mark level.
You can leave the sarcasm aside and read the second part of my previous post.
If you posses knowledge on how to use your gear then rare make XI is more than sufficient.
Heck, i have only two (2) pieces of upgraded ground gear across all of my characters and i rarely even die in later levels of Sompek.
The OP had difficulties with handling a large number of foes at the same time and thus i gave him a suggestion for the only gear combo he needed in that mission.
If you cannot tank multiple enemies, do not get detected.
The combination of Romulan Operative set and cannibal tribble does just that. Equip the plasma feedback console for retaliation against any energy weapons and use mines as heavy hitting shield bypassing damage.
The ninja miner build can be further enhanced with intel kit modules.
Remember this well, upgrading gear makes things easier, but is never a prerequisite at normal difficulty.
The "time slip" invulnerability of the Na'kuhl shield is unique.
The Omega reputation ground set remains an old favorite and is certainly convenient for use versus the Borg with a favorite energy rifle. I still carry it on all my characters but it doesn't get used as often as it did at one time.
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add ons kit powers, chain conduit capacitor - ball lightning(risa event) - gravity device (discovery rep) - anchor of grethor (holiday event) , vger probes (event prize) and mudds time device( discovery rep).
for me that combination helps alot but you can still die just less frequently.
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Universal_Kit_Module_-_Phasic_Shroud
It is an option, but for me it does not fit my play style because it disables sprinting.
My main is an engineer and without sprinting deploying mines near foes becomes a lot less effective.
was op running advanced?
No sense in not using them if I have them.
Like my new DR. I can grab the Sompek shield and blast gun from reclaim, so I do that as I get BOFFs. Works really well in the missions.
Also using the T6 raptor I found in my C-Store Promo tab, so don't need to swap ships at all. Just add gear as slots become available. (He's Ferasan, KDF)
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That is most likely the MatHa raptor.
For me the Klingon raptor type vessels are vessels i cannot get the feel for,
I can get a build on it and fly them with acceptable performance in normal/advanced, but the sweet spot seems to elude me.
It's my personal blind spot as far as building/using ship types is concerned.
I do prefer those as well, although tactical can be fun at times.
The Mat'Ha is a good ship, but the raptors are overall for me the one ship type i feel i cannot get quite right.