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Time to discuss Party Poppers

captainbrian11captainbrian11 Member Posts: 733 Arc User
So I think it's time to seriously discuss party poppers.

I'm not saying they're entirly bad, in small doses they can be reasonably fun and entertaining, but they're often used obnoxiously to grief.

The Baloons are the worst offenders because THEY WON'T DESPAWN.


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This was DS9 tonight.

Look I'm not saying get rid of the party poppers but for christsake have the baloons despawn after a period of time. We often complain about Cryptic adding too much visual TRIBBLE to BOFF and ship powers, but at the same time, they're not even addressing old toys like this, that really seem easily abused to grief.

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  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,215 Arc User
    edited February 2023
    There's an option in the graphics tab where you can lower the debris amount, it's called "Max physics debris objects", it can lower the amount of balloons you will see.
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  • krisxr400krisxr400 Member Posts: 154 Arc User
    I understand the concern, although i dont run into it that often. I bet it would be fun to jump around in that screen shot, and when you get tiered of that, change instances. Having a timer on the balloons would be fine also, totally reasonable request. For the most part I dont find party poppers an annoyance, unless its spammed to adnauseam. Although the new one really isn't "fun", and is kind of annoying, because its just bright lights and loud sound. I tired it once and thought, oh...well thats lame. My favorites are the grass ones, the tribble ones, and the fire cracker ones, in that order. Imagine if tribbles didnt disappear, you could fill a whole room with them, lol.
  • spacehermitspacehermit Member Posts: 358 Arc User
    So I think it's time to seriously discuss party poppers.

    I'm not saying they're entirly bad, in small doses they can be reasonably fun and entertaining, but they're often used obnoxiously to grief.

    The Baloons are the worst offenders because THEY WON'T DESPAWN.



    Thank you for posting this. I had been thinking of making the same point myself. DS9 is a very cramped environment and I would love to see party poppers, disco balls and reputation flourishes disabled in the bank area at least. If you want to play with your popper, please do it on Drozana or Risa.
  • ashstorm1ashstorm1 Member Posts: 679 Arc User
    The Baloons are the worst offenders because THEY WON'T DESPAWN.


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    This was DS9 tonight.

    Damn, these things don't despawn anymore?

    I mean, let's be fair, we tend to get used to oversights in STO after a while, but this kind of graphical pollution could become a real problem on low-tier comps...
  • nixie50nixie50 Member Posts: 1,354 Arc User
    welcome to my feelings about the disco ball
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,728 Community Moderator
    As already mentioned, you can decrease the number of Physics Objects your client will render.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 11,075 Community Moderator
    Making a mention about this to the team. Can't promise anything, though. However, I will remind folks that the Disco Ball topic is in the FCT. I mention that, because their effects are intentional, and therefore, why they will not be removed from the game. By the same token, the poppers' effects are intentional, and so, it may be decided not to adjust or restrict them as suggested here.
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  • spacehermitspacehermit Member Posts: 358 Arc User
    Making a mention about this to the team. Can't promise anything, though. However, I will remind folks that the Disco Ball topic is in the FCT. I mention that, because their effects are intentional, and therefore, why they will not be removed from the game. By the same token, the poppers' effects are intentional, and so, it may be decided not to adjust or restrict them as suggested here.

    Thanks for doing this. Being forced to change one's settings just to accomodate other players' griefing should not really be considered as a solution.

  • ashstorm1ashstorm1 Member Posts: 679 Arc User
    Making a mention about this to the team. Can't promise anything, though. However, I will remind folks that the Disco Ball topic is in the FCT. I mention that, because their effects are intentional, and therefore, why they will not be removed from the game. By the same token, the poppers' effects are intentional, and so, it may be decided not to adjust or restrict them as suggested here.

    Thanks for doing this. Being forced to change one's settings just to accomodate other players' griefing should not really be considered as a solution.

    ^ This.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,728 Community Moderator
    The point is that there IS something that can be done without just calling for the NerfBat.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • spacehermitspacehermit Member Posts: 358 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    The point is that there IS something that can be done without just calling for the NerfBat.

    Like calling for people to behave in a considerate manner? Let people have fun of course, but not by being deliberately annoying. That is troll behaviour.
  • protoneousprotoneous Member Posts: 3,193 Arc User
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  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,215 Arc User
    They could always reduce the size of the DIS balloons since they are ridiculously big.
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  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    A simple solution - change instances. I do it all the time to avoid issues like those depicted.

    Rattler's suggestion works, too. He's good people. So publicly dissing him here is probably the same as filling the room with balloons.

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  • spacehermitspacehermit Member Posts: 358 Arc User
    A simple solution - change instances. I do it all the time to avoid issues like those depicted.

    Rattler's suggestion works, too. He's good people. So publicly dissing him here is probably the same as filling the room with balloons.

    Last thing - Star Trek Online is a game. It should not ever be allowed to become a lifestyle choice.

    No offence meant to Rattler. I was merely disagreeing with his suggestion.

    And yes, changing instances works, but it's not the answer to the problem.
  • sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 6,072 Arc User
    edited February 2023
    A simple solution - change instances. I do it all the time to avoid issues like those depicted.

    Rattler's suggestion works, too. He's good people. So publicly dissing him here is probably the same as filling the room with balloons.

    Last thing - Star Trek Online is a game. It should not ever be allowed to become a lifestyle choice.

    No offence meant to Rattler. I was merely disagreeing with his suggestion.

    And yes, changing instances works, but it's not the answer to the problem.

    You mean, it is not the answer that you want to hear. It is one of the solutions however and no, not everyone who is using a party popper is trying to grief people.
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  • spacehermitspacehermit Member Posts: 358 Arc User
    sthe91 wrote: »

    You mean, it is not the answer that you want to hear. It is one of the solutions however and no, not everyone who is using a party popper is trying to grief people.

    No. I mean what I say, not what you read into it. It seems we all hear what we want to from time to time. At no point did I suggest that all people using party poppers were trying to grief people - merely that their use should be curtailed in certain areas such as the small banking space on DS9. That is the problem I was referring to, not the overall use of poppers.
  • sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 6,072 Arc User
    > @spacehermit said:
    > No. I mean what I say, not what you read into it. It seems we all hear what we want to from time to time. At no point did I suggest that all people using party poppers were trying to grief people - merely that their use should be curtailed in certain areas such as the small banking space on DS9. That is the problem I was referring to, not the overall use of poppers.

    Thanks for the clarification. Maybe a middle ground can be reached.
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  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    edited February 2023
    And yes, changing instances works, but it's not the answer to the problem.

    Didn't say it was "THE" answer. Jus the one I use. Which works.

    I also don't view this as a "problem".

    (Trolling comments moderated out. - BMR)
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  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,949 Arc User
    sthe91 wrote: »

    You mean, it is not the answer that you want to hear. It is one of the solutions however and no, not everyone who is using a party popper is trying to grief people.

    No. I mean what I say, not what you read into it. It seems we all hear what we want to from time to time. At no point did I suggest that all people using party poppers were trying to grief people - merely that their use should be curtailed in certain areas such as the small banking space on DS9. That is the problem I was referring to, not the overall use of poppers.

    I concur with that assessment. all these things are fun, but when they are used next to the bank mail and exchange consoles, it's ridiculous, and IMHO, griefing/trolling
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  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,949 Arc User
    sthe91 wrote: »
    > @spacehermit said:
    > No. I mean what I say, not what you read into it. It seems we all hear what we want to from time to time. At no point did I suggest that all people using party poppers were trying to grief people - merely that their use should be curtailed in certain areas such as the small banking space on DS9. That is the problem I was referring to, not the overall use of poppers.

    Thanks for the clarification. Maybe a middle ground can be reached.

    sure can. a maximum amount of balloons in a 30M radius. if you create more, they disappear in order of summons.
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  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    Whenever I see threads like this one, there always seems to be a hidden message lurking behind the words.

    Namely, it isn't enough to restrict the use of such items. The people who dare to use them MUST be punished for their blasphemous behavior! It always seems to be because: 1) "Somebody is ruining MY Fun!" and 2) "Somebody's not playing the game the way I DEMAND it be played!"

    I find the second one a bit scary. Suppose Cryptic does accede to the OP's, and others, wishes. And restrict the use of these items. Now what? How long do you think it will be before Cryptic starts to restrict usage of things the OP, and others, like?

    Always easier the second time.

    Now for a radical idea. Remove ALL these items! But do it this way - PermaBan any player who uses one of these things in any social setting which is a public area. Restrict their use to Fleet social areas only. The people who use these things are all griefers and trolls whose only enjoyment in life is wrecking someone else's STO experience. They should be completely removed from Star Trek fandom! FOEVAH!
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 11,075 Community Moderator
    And whenever WE see comments like this one, we know that the fun is over, that is the discussion, because it all goes downhill from here. Look, folks, nothing like this fearmongering comment is going to happen, and the commenter has been around long enough to know it. It didn't happen with Disco Balls, and it's not going to happen with Party Poppers. They won't be removed. Their use won't get restricted. And nothing is going to happen to anyone who uses them anywhere. Most popper effects are of short duration and quickly disappear, so requesting something similar with balloons is not beyond the realm of reasonable. I've run this request up the flagpole, so we'll see what happens. No promises. But we cannot allow this to degenerate into another Disco Ball-like argument thread. Regardless, you can expect in the coming days for Party Poppers to be added to the FCT along with Disco Balls and for the same reason. The people have spoken, on both sides, and the idea has been passed along. Hopefully, y'all can at least be satisfied with knowing that you've been heard. In the meantime, though, unfortunately, this discussion is now closed. /Thread
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