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Please raise the Back EC limit of 2B and the Exchange limit of 1.5B
indyshark
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I know some promo ships are only on trade channels because they sell for more than 1.5B. Why can't the exchange cap be increased? I'd also like to expand the bank limit of 2B. I would be happy to pay for that if I could get 3B.
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It costs 100 promo packs on average to get one ship. Look at the EC cost of 100 promo packs. Look at the zen cost of 100 promo packs.
The ship cost isn't greed, it reflects the low value of EC from the lack of good EC sinks.
I agree that the personal and exchange caps need to be raised since Cryptic might take years or forever to come up with new EC sinks (see: the Dil exchange).
(No, I don't sell ships on the exchange. I have bought a half-dozen lock box and lobi ships there over the last 8 years since it's cheaper and more reliable than opening gamble boxes.)
Oh and no it isn't that easy to change either, especially with this game's code, they'd have to change every instance of 'int' to 'int64'. Trying to mess around with it would likely summon Cthulu with whomever is left at the Cryptic code dungeon.
If you want a 'buy/sell it now' option, hard cheese.
These changes really should be made.. as soon as possible. Raising the Exchange Cap to 2B would at least get promo ships back on the exchange and make people less reliant on Trade Channels.
This entire quote is nothing but a complete misunderstanding of the problem as a whole. Well done.
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It depends on how high they raise the cap. Lock box (not promo) ships were still available last time I checked, not priced out by "evil greedsters" so a cap of 3-4 billion should work for promo ships for awhile.
inflation will keep prices creeping up just like with dil so eventually promo ships will exceed even 4 billion but this might buy us a couple of years.
Exactly! And what happens when they start charging over 2 billion EC for ships...they will just ask for it again! At 2.5 billion EC and they will just ask for it again
Devs shouldn't have to adjust things every 6 months or so because player greed grows and grows
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The problem with your logic is the cost of zen nor the zen cost have ever gone up, there is no inflation on that end...so the only reason there is inflation on the players end is pure player greed
Then you are under the impression that market prices are dictated by the exchange cap? Because they’re not.. that’s why this thread exists in the first place. The Exchange Cap is currently 1.5B and people are using trade channels because they’re selling for more then that. If your logic were valid and the exchange cap dictated the price cap then no ship in the game would currently cost more then 1.5B. When the cap was raised from 1B to 1.5B it was done because ships were already going for 1.5B at the time of the raise. The values didn’t raise because of the cap, the cap was raised to meet the value. Market prices are not set by the exchange cap and never have been. Frankly, this is obvious.
The failure in logic is yours. The person you replied to specifically stated the price of promo packs in EC which has inflated heavily. Zen still costs the same, but items on the exchange are quite often obtained by buying keys with EC and key prices have over doubled in the last 2 years. As a result, it costs twice as much to obtain a ship, so sellers sell for twice what they used to. Promo packs have also over doubled in EC cost due to in game inflation and this has had an obvious effect on the pricing of Promo ships as well.
Add in the fact that it’s much harder to exchange Dilithium to EC through Zen conversion and the reason for the prices is pretty obvious. People like you that post about ‘player greed’ just have absolutely no idea how the economy works and no idea how much it actually costs sellers to post the items people are trying to buy. You would be surprised just how little most posters actually make on a promo ship, unless you get lucky and score one on a very low number of boxes most posters are lucky to break even.
Well considering there is almost nothing to spend EC on there is no wonder why EC has inflated to almost no end, I don't think raising the cap is healthy for the game tbh.
Of course it makes sense. Would it make sense to have items on the exchange that cost more money than anyone can actually pay? Would it make sense to sell items for so much that you can't carry it all and the excess is lost to the void?
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Because that never happens right? It's all in my imagination?
I'm just imagining that gamble ships used to cost 100 million back in the day and now they cost almost a billion if not breaking a billion
I'm also imagining that prices went up after they already raised the EC cap once?
There hasn't been any kind of EC sink in years...but prices keep going up and up...why should the devs cater to the needs of the few, especially when it's totally greed driven? Nothing preventing you form selling it now...so no need for a cap raise
It's already been explained to you, you are just either unwilling or unable to comprehend it.
It's always easiest to hand wave issues like this as 'player greed,' but it's often a more complex issue, as it is in this case. Are there people that do things like buy up supply in order to inflate prices? Yes.. but this about the bulk of players.
Again, the exchange cap was raised last time to meet the market price, the market price did not raise with the exchange cap. That is the case this time as well, the value of items is already above the exchange max, if the market worked the way you seem to think it does, that would not be possible at all. The exchange cap has absolutely no impact on the value of goods, that is why people currently sell on Trade Channels.
We do however, agree on the need for an EC Sink, that is badly needed.
Yes... because if you have EC on your toon and you sell something for the exchange limit and end up with more EC then the cap. It don't go into escrow... it goes bye bye forever.
Cryptic is saving themselves support tickets.
Yes if your going to sell a big ticket item that gets to the cap or close... you have to make sure you won't go over when it sells.