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daimon97
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So after flying Promo T'liss for years, wanted to change things a bit and got myself a JH Vanguard Warship. So far I am loving it. The MW station is really interesting. The only thing I am trying to figure out is the boff layout. Currently I am running 4 DHC (3 Spiral Wave, 1 Terran rep) and darkmatter torp. The aft is 1 spiral turret, 1 undine rep turret(also got the console for 2 piece) and 1 regular epic omni beam(for mixed armaments) What boff layout shud I go with? I currently got a drake build and seems to work well. Thanks in advance!
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Cmdr Tac : BO1, Attack Pattern Beta 1, Torpedo Spread 3, Cannon Scatter Volley 3
LtC Tac/MW : Tactical Team 1, Narrow Sensor Bands 1, Mixed Armaments Synergy 2
LtC Eng: Eng Team 1, Reverse Shield Polarity, Emergency Power to Weapons 3
Ens Sci: Hazard Emitters
Lt Uni: Tactical Team 1, Kemocite Laced 1
Well I got doffs that reduce cooldowns for tactical and engineer boff abilities
It's a very nice ship.
What I use on mine is all cannon front and turret rear and with 2 copies of A2B for cool downs. A single omni in the rear (just like you're using) triggers Mixed Armaments Synergy all the time.
On disruptor builds am using the House Martok Omni-Directional Disruptor Beam Array, Counter-Command Ordnance Heavy Disruptor turret, and a crafted disruptor turret in the rear. I use the matching consoles for these for the 2 piece set bonuses.
Terran Task Force Dual Heavy Disruptor Cannons and Disruptor Quad Cannons can be solid choices for the front.
I could be missing something but you may have missed some cool downs with the Drake build. From my old fashioned perspective if using 2-3 Damage Control Engineers for emergency power cool downs that still leaves quite a few things without any cool down reduction. I used to do the same thing but unfortunately it results in significant loss in uptime for your tactical abilities and buffs with a commensurate decrease in damage.
Perhaps try to double up your tactical abilities (tactical team, attack pattern beta, and cannon firing skill) for the interim? Aux to the Structural Integrity Field has a shorter cool down than Reverse Shield Polarity and can work nicely. Something like this -
It's possible to get free purple Technician doffs from spending some time farming the B'Tran Cluster or they can be purchased off the exchange. I think you'll be amazed at the end result using 3 Technicians and two copies of Aux2Batt.
Edit: You should be able to purchase Narrow Sensor Bands III (versus using rank 2) from the exchange or make it yourself if you have the Miracle Worker rep filled out.
Also no real need for Beam Overload. Just let the rear Omni do it thing for MAS.
that was the question i was going to ask.. I thought the torp would do it.
Using a torpedo for MAS requires some timing. An Omni (for a cannon build) or a turret (for a beam build) works very nicely and since it's triggering MAS all the time allows focus on the primary damage dealing weaponry.
...including BO (not really needed), APB, NSB, MAS, KLW, ET, RSP and HE according to the boff abilities used here.
This is a reason why 2x A2B with 3x Technicians is often used. There's only so much room for active duty doffs (I didn't include an Emergency Conn Officer), and the cool downs achieved using A2B seems much more reliable in my experience.
If it seems like too many buttons to push, use a basic tactical rotation keybind to execute things sequentially by tapping a single key. This more than most things really helped me increase my focus on the game rather than on what buttons to push.
This is how I'm do things. So far it's working well beyond any expectations I ever had: Instructional Video
Put in row 10: EPtW -> EPtE -> CSV -> APB1 -> KLW1 -> TT1 -> A2B -> A2B. Then hide it and keep everything else in your tray as it was before. Tap that single key that you chose and watch how nicely things happen when everything is at close to global cool down almost all the time.
I am not saying it is good enough... I am asking for advice that is all...
So far I was using dark matter torp and lorca console for 2 piece but I can always change that, thank you for the insight
Alright thx for the info. Since I am using disruptor, I will use the 360 Omni dis beam I crafted my Crit Severity is around 216 and Crit Chance is around 54 ish with (just to be sure, will doublecheck and report back on the values)
See what works best for you.
Some players really like a torpedo.
I have the Lorca DBB on some ships and as it fires away it does stack CrtD and +25% CrtD at full stacks ain't bad.
For me on a cannon ship though I tend to keep things all cannon front and turret rear, aside from the rear omni to trigger MAS, and carry CRF2 along with CSV3.
It's all those cannons doing the most damage by far and there doesn't seem to be any need or even time for a torpedo finisher as everything is already dead after a couple of volleys.
Having both CRF and CSV allows me to control how much threat I'm generating and seems to come in handy versus having CSV only on groups of enemies when one is using Feedback Pulse or any other situation where a single target is preferable.
Here is the current build btw along with stats
I am currently trying to get the right doffs for aux2batt will switch it soon. Btw thank you all so much for your help and feedback