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New factions for Romulans and Klingons?
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I was wondering what everyone thought of the idea of having 2 new starting factions for the Romulans and Klingons. I was thinking of either in the AOY era or AOD era. It would give players a new starting story (along with missions) set in TOS or DISCO era, along with the established canon (well beta canon as this IS STO) uniforms, ships and looks. Maybe its a bad idea but I feel that the fans of these two factions need a new starting storyline. So please feel free to pick my idea apart or add to it to flesh the idea out. My goal is to make so much noise that the dev's at Perfect World and Cryptic will have to take notice.
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No need to make noise. This has been discussed MANY times already. There's hardly any canon to go off from those eras, and whilst they could easily make it, firstly is is it really worth it and secondly, that game canon can quickly be ruined by CBS nixxing ideas, which they have done before, and third does the game (not players) call for it. However, first Cryptic needs to work on the 2409 Fed experience which was decimated when they removed a few missions 'for renovation' a few years back. The ROMs and KDF currently have MORE unique episodes that every other faction COMBINED, with ROMs the most followed by KDF.
There is actually a lot that is known or can be inferred about the TOS Romulans, though none of it necessarily holds true for the DSC ones since continuity between the traditional Trek and NuTrek is a bit spotty (to say the least). They were created for the episode Balance of Terror, which was an adaptation of the script for The Enemy Below which pitted a US destroyer against a German U-boat in WWII, so they are mainly based on the nationalsozialistischen but mixed with elements of ancient Rome during their fall from a republic.
Dialog in Balance of Terror and The Enterprise Incident reveals a few key elements like the Romulan government was a republic ruled by a senate until it was corrupted and fell into a fascist empire fairly recently, they were a poor but proud people, they used a (probably inferior) FTL system that was not warp drive (since Scotty found no sign of a warp drive in scans of the warbird), and other clues.
The coup had to be fairly recent (probably within the last fifty years, aka sometime since about 2200) since Mark Lenard's character served the republic for a significant part of his career (it was implied that he already had command of a ship before it happened) and he did not like the change but put up with it because of his sense of duty to the Romulan people, a timeframe that echos the rapid rise of fascism in Germany prior to WWII when you take the longer lifespan of vulcanoids into account.
ENT shows that even before the coup there was a very powerful and ruthless element in the Tal Shiar, which was already engaged in the kind of underhanded nastiness that later came to characterize the RSE in the TNG era. That, combined with the information from TOS, appears that most likely it was that autocratic, unaccountable element of the Tal Shiar who engineered the corruption of the Romulan government into the fascist empire seen in TOS and later.
As for Klingon factions, it would be nice if the Orions had their own subfaction (possibly based out of Drozanna or Nimbus) since they seem to be the most popular KDF race and their culture (actually cultures since they are divided between Syndicate and Free Trader factions) is very different from Klingon culture. The other non-Klingon KDF races seem to be in the same boat since the focus is so Klingocentric in STO's KDF.
The faction that cries out the most for representation however is the Dominion itself. The "Jem'Hadar" faction is only Odo's expeditionary force, which does not represent the canon Dominion very well at all since it lacks absolutely vital stuff like the Vorta who run the day-to-day functions of the Dominion, serve prominently in their intelligence services, and fill all officer roles in their military (except for Odo's oddball force).
Anyway, that said, the devs have stated numerous times that they won't be making any new factions or subfactions for the forseeable future so unless something happens to change their minds (perhaps something from Strange New Worlds will inspire them to do one for instance) it is a moot point.
True, Daniels or his Romulan counterpart could redirect them to Virinat to deal with some kind of temporal tampering with the invasion there, or they could just go directly from the new tutorial to the flotilla, with the cutscene briefly explaining the situation with D'Tan, the RSE remnants, and the recent mysterious attack on Virinat.
> bubble meet burst...
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> i like the idea, and would support it, after they fix the many bugs in the game. however, rest assured, a new ship, lockbox item, or lobi item, will make an appearance way before you get your wish and others get bugs fixed.
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> carry on.
This argument is quite a tired one. STO's code is over 15 years old and full of wholes. Fixing all bugs would amount to making a new game and not a one of them is actually game breaking. More content is almost always better, unless its TRIBBLE content
And Strange New Worlds and maybe Section 31 is one of the reason why we won't have DISCO Romulans. DISCO Klingons are a possibility, but we already have all of the DISCO Klingon ships which seems to be the main reason for Cryptic to create a new playable faction.
TOS could work for both Klingons and Romulans, However a Discovery faction for these races are a bit trickier, since there's only Discovery Klingons, seeing as Discovery just reuses Picard Romulans.
I suppose you could build short intro story around how one Klingon that's more "good" gets transported to 25c or same for a RSE officer, that said that would mean totally new storylines that either would have to be somehow crossfaction (like the DSC intro missions were, apart from the tutorial) or somehow convince Cryptic to make missions for something that a fractions of a fraction of the playerbase (not all players who play KDF/ROM would want to play TOS KDF/RSE, not mention there's those players who play exclusively FED).
And that's assuming there's no objections from CBS.
That is what it all really boils down to, how it would affect nu-Trek. Personally I wouldn't mind a mission set for KLING where you expand the Empire by invading pre-warp worlds, or raid Fed supply routes in TOS era. For ROM I can imagine a more cold war spy feel to the gameplay, where the missions are all about gathering intel/technology to increase the power of the Republic, Obviously the occasional incursion into FED space testing new tech or ships. But to experience the inner political turmoil of the two factions and to play through them would be a great overall experience. But this is only my opinion, everyone has differing points of view and everyone's viewpoint is valid.