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thegrandnagus1
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I think is more like Mirror Invasion... but whatever, i hope its fun and not so time gated...
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The Heralds were bringing some sort of structure near Jupiter during the battle. A Gorn ship (the Varanus?) was going to stop them.
And that's literally all we know, saw or heard about that.
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
Executing a chief engineer because he was too late with something. Encouraging the use of weapons to work your way up the ranks - resulting in who knows how many more deaths, feelings of betrayal and distrust amongst the people who are working for you and so on.
It's a funny paradox: shouldn't every person of some importance in the Terran Empire have been executed for incompetence? They're not exactly good examples of competent leadership if you think about it.
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
Keep in mind here that the Terran Empire strives for people do their absolute best for the glory of the Empire, and if they are disloyal or in this case, not up to the standards set by someone in their command, then they can be executed and someone else can take their place. That, and advancement by murder & sleeping with those in power are common practices with the Mirror universe Terrans.
I know.
And that's why it's hard to take them serious.
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
The text also says that several ships will be there. Not just the Defiant like in Counterpoint, but also the Enterprise and Voyager.
So I doubt it's an almost exact copy of existing content.
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
Hope the TFO is fun.
The terran empire doesn't make sense even slightly. Any minor change in history would result in a vastly different world. Yet the mirror universe has vast changes that would cause giant ripples yet somehow it's still just a mirror of the current Federation (down to nearly identical ships, just painted differently), with everyone having a mirror duplicate
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I dont know.. that works on some banks and some other companies in this universe..
LOL and :thumbsup:
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> Actually, I hope it's full of timegates, so I can start the TFO in solo mode and go make myself a sandwich while it autocompletes in afk-mode...
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Warp in, deploy frigates, go have coffee and a scone. That's my strategy for all of these time-gated, lazy missions.
Agreed.
The original Mirror Invasion was challenging.
As others are pointing out though, there were also some serious flaws - especially the easy interruption from even the tiniest amount of damage to your ship. Time gates are generally awful too, so I wouldn't be disappointed if those aren't present.
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
That's also true. Even one simple change (like Cochrane shooting the Vulcan visitors during first contact (in Enterprise, not the movie, just to be clear)) should have many different effects and result in a very different universe.
But we're not looking at a Mirror Universe that has done one important thing differently. The constant infighting, rebellions, betrayal, turning entire planets like Qo'nos into a wasteland - their universe should differ in almost every aspect from ours.
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
I also think the mirror universe with all the betrayals, assassinations, and executions a bit unstable and over the top, but it it does provide a diversion and something fresh. In my own head canon, assassination and executions are rare and only for extreme situations. Punishment and exposure to the agonizer are far more common. Leadership is through fear and established dominance like an alpha wolf in a wolf pack. Once an alpha establishes their dominance the whole pack follows them as a tight team. If the alpha wolf becomes weak or is killed, that starts up a struggle for dominance to take his place. I like to think of Terran leadership like a wolf pack. Otherwise it would totally lacking in social cohesion to be a functioning society.
Because while it doesn't seem to be the opinion of any Trek's writer, it'd be nice to finally fully justify the name "Mirror Universe".
For example, by having it revealed to be some kind of twisted joke pulled by some eldritch force to force this universe to have the same people at various points in time where previous changes should have made it impossible. And then, said force got bored and stopped making sure it's similar but reversed despite how implausible it is and let it collapse and split further and further until the current 32nd century setting.
At this point, it's ARGUABLY the "safest" solution to explain how such a cartoonishly evil universe can have the same characters around (and often just in time for their Prime counterparts (' friends) to meet them before they're killed) and keeping existing.
Or heck, why not make this whole universe an eldritch horror itself that could only thrive if the Prime Universe interacted with it in any way at least once every century or something, and then started dying in the 27th century due to no interaction happening between the two?
That could also explain why Georgiou went from murderous, genocidal, egomaniac, remorseless, alien-eating emperor to someone "merely" ruthless who couldn't stand how utterly evil this universe was by staying out of it for a while.
Discovery already added its own unnecessary "Terrans are more sensitive to light for some reason" and "characters from different eras and universes can suffer a deadly and over-the-top-looking temporal sickness" changes, why not trying to give another justification?
Just to be clear, what I'm about to say is not disagreeing with anything you said.
But the truth is, none of this makes any logical sense. There is no logical way that the TOS era MU would be an exact 1:1 duplicate of each "Prime" universe character/ship, because all of the events prior to that time period would have been so incredibly different in the MU that it would have lead each of those people on extremely different paths, and half would probably be dead or never even exist in the first place (because their exact 2 parents wouldn't have gotten together either). So there is no logical way to even explain this; it's just TV nonsense as you alluded to with the "mirror trope".
But ignoring the fact that none of this makes any sense, the TNG version of the mirror universe is fleshed out really well in IDW's comics:
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation_-_Mirror_Broken
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