Elite BOFFs

flintl0ck33
flintl0ck33 Member Posts: 37 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
So we have yet another event awarding a ground Kit module. Currently my bag slots and bank slots are full of them. This made me think about an option to buy for Dil token to promote BOFFs to Elite status. This would grant the BOFF the option to equip and use one or more ground Kit Modules. Players could theme the away team or just Min/max with duplicate abilities. However this would no imbalance anything like TFOs as the BOFFs are no used. This would also act as storage, allowing you to use BOFFs to clear some space in your inventory.

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  • commander45689
    commander45689 Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited October 2021
    Interesting idea, Elite Boffs sound really fun & useful.
    I am fan of the Galaxy class and Sovereign class. I like Federation cruisers.

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  • davefenestrator
    davefenestrator Member Posts: 9,788 Arc User
    edited October 2021
    I like the idea, but I think many of us would want an "Boff-X Upgrade Token" so we can add this to a boff that fits our theme crew.

    None of my crews want to associate with a plant monster thing on an away team :)
  • gaevsman
    gaevsman Member Posts: 3,181 Arc User
    Make the token for dilithium... a very good ammount, and we have a very good dilithium sink
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  • davefenestrator
    davefenestrator Member Posts: 9,788 Arc User
    gaevsman wrote: »
    Make the token for dilithium... a very good ammount, and we have a very good dilithium sink

    Great idea.
  • corinthalas
    corinthalas Member Posts: 1,947 Arc User
    edited October 2021
    So are you saying we'd be able to swap boff's regular skills for our choice of kits? Or would this be in addition to the skills they currently have (which are class kits)?
  • ashstorm1
    ashstorm1 Member Posts: 637 Arc User
    A good idea, considering half of my 160+ slots inventory is cluttered with Kit Modules...
  • theoryfive
    theoryfive Member Posts: 657 Arc User
    edited October 2021
    It's funny the OP mentions the idea of upgrading BOFFs to elite rarity. Elisa Flores technically is an elite BOFF, but not displayed as such. She has an extra trait that's superior, more than a very rare BOFF can get.

    I'd definitely be all for the ability to upgrade BOFFs, myself. Especially lower rarities to very rare if you have one you want to keep and not have to spend millions (or hundreds of millions) to re-buy from the exchange at a higher rarity.
  • kaithan1975
    kaithan1975 Member Posts: 947 Arc User
    theoryfive wrote: »
    It's funny the OP mentions the idea of upgrading BOFFs to elite rarity. Elisa Flores technically is an elite BOFF, but not displayed as such. She has an extra trait that's superior, more than a very rare BOFF can get.

    I'd definitely be all for the ability to upgrade BOFFs, myself. Especially lower rarities to very rare if you have one you want to keep and not have to spend millions (or hundreds of millions) to re-buy from the exchange at a higher rarity.

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  • westmetals
    westmetals Member Posts: 8,221 Arc User
    Most kits (the class-specific ones at least) are already available as BOFF skills.
  • stolok
    stolok Member Posts: 110 Arc User
    edited October 2021
    Yes, I suggested this before during the discussion of 'captain upgrades' -- which Cryptic recently implemented. We need some sort of enhancement for Boffs because they are falling behind characters and even equipment. The ability to use ONE kit module in their profession, or a universal, would be a good thing to add. Kits are more powerful than standard Boff abilities. An extra trait or two would be nice, too. Certainly it will not be possible to allow Boffs to use all of the traits that players can use, but there must be a few we could add without breaking game mechanics. An additional rank that enhances their health would be good, too. They've been stuck at Commander since the game launched while players have advanced several times. When can we have Captain Boffs?
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  • davefenestrator
    davefenestrator Member Posts: 9,788 Arc User
    edited October 2021
    westmetals wrote: »
    Most kits (the class-specific ones at least) are already available as BOFF skills.

    The crafted ones are, but not season events, 14-day events, reputation, fleet or lock box.

    I can see for example wanting to give a Breen boff a bunch of cold kits.
    Post edited by davefenestrator on
  • maniac20#5251
    maniac20#5251 Member Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited October 2021
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    westmetals wrote: »
    Most kits (the class-specific ones at least) are already available as BOFF skills.

    The crafted ones are, but not season events, 14-day events, reputation, fleet or lock box.

    I can see for example wanting to give a Breen boff a bunch of cold kits.

    Actually a number of the season event ones players can use are also available to the BOFFs I got a few BOFFs with seasonal abilities.
  • davefenestrator
    davefenestrator Member Posts: 9,788 Arc User
    maniac20#5251 wrote: »
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    westmetals wrote: »
    Most kits (the class-specific ones at least) are already available as BOFF skills.

    The crafted ones are, but not season events, 14-day events, reputation, fleet or lock box.

    I can see for example wanting to give a Breen boff a bunch of cold kits.

    Actually a number of the season event ones players can use are also available to the BOFFs I got a few BOFFs with seasonal abilities.

    D'oh, you're right there are training manuals for many of those.
  • flintl0ck33
    flintl0ck33 Member Posts: 37 Arc User
    > @stolok said:
    > Yes, I suggested this before during the discussion of 'captain upgrades' -- which Cryptic recently implemented. We need some sort of enhancement for Boffs because they are falling behind characters and even equipment. The ability to use ONE kit module in their profession, or a universal, would be a good thing to add. Kits are more powerful than standard Boff abilities. An extra trait or two would be nice, too. Certainly it will not be possible to allow Boffs to use all of the traits that players can use, but there must be a few we could add without breaking game mechanics. An additional rank that enhances their health would be good, too. They've been stuck at Commander since the game launched while players have advanced several times. When can we have Captain Boffs?

    Funny you say that. I do actually have a captain BOFF on my first ever char when the game launched. I used to spam promote the characters as I levelled and for some reason one and only one of my Boffs promoted past commander to Captain. No extra abilities were gained and I was unable to replicate it. Checked the char a couple of months ago and she still shows as captain :)
  • flintl0ck33
    flintl0ck33 Member Posts: 37 Arc User
    > @corinthalas said:
    > So are you saying we'd be able to swap boff's regular skills for our choice of kits? Or would this be in addition to the skills they currently have (which are class kits)?

    I would say leave the skills alone and just add a universal kit slot just like the ship gained an extra trait slot. Adding a Trait slot to the BOFFS would be a great addition as well imho.
  • fleetcaptain5#1134
    fleetcaptain5#1134 Member Posts: 3,234 Arc User
    I'd prefer an option to simply discard these things and be able to easily reclaim them (where that's not possible yet).

    I hardly use my Boffs on the ground. So personally I don't see the benefit here.
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  • kirisee
    kirisee Member Posts: 438 Arc User
    stolok wrote: »
    Yes, I suggested this before during the discussion of 'captain upgrades' -- which Cryptic recently implemented. We need some sort of enhancement for Boffs because they are falling behind characters and even equipment. The ability to use ONE kit module in their profession, or a universal, would be a good thing to add. Kits are more powerful than standard Boff abilities. An extra trait or two would be nice, too. Certainly it will not be possible to allow Boffs to use all of the traits that players can use, but there must be a few we could add without breaking game mechanics. An additional rank that enhances their health would be good, too. They've been stuck at Commander since the game launched while players have advanced several times. When can we have Captain Boffs?

    Have you ever played Neverwinter? The companions in that game can be augmented in many ways, and even be "promoted" to elite with extra skills and such. We need this to come over to STO!

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  • flintl0ck33
    flintl0ck33 Member Posts: 37 Arc User
    stolok wrote: »
    Yes, I suggested this before during the discussion of 'captain upgrades' -- which Cryptic recently implemented. We need some sort of enhancement for Boffs because they are falling behind characters and even equipment. The ability to use ONE kit module in their profession, or a universal, would be a good thing to add. Kits are more powerful than standard Boff abilities. An extra trait or two would be nice, too. Certainly it will not be possible to allow Boffs to use all of the traits that players can use, but there must be a few we could add without breaking game mechanics. An additional rank that enhances their health would be good, too. They've been stuck at Commander since the game launched while players have advanced several times. When can we have Captain Boffs?

    That would be a great idea, but why stop there?
    From a roleplay point of view I would actually like to see the main roles that you see in the show assigned to BOFFS not just showing up as "Department Heads" in the DOFF system.
    Again as a good DIL sink, you could add additional options into the Career Options drop down for the BOFFs. The new title could replace COMMANDER in the description. The Department Heads Tab in the DOFF section can then be removed / changed.
    Each main promotion can only be selected for one BOFF. This will remain greyed out until the character is dismissed. Elite BOFF option can be applied to any BOFF you own.

    Promote to Captain
    Cost xxxxxx Dilithium
    BOFF Gains 2 Universal Ground Kit Module slots
    Gains Additional Trait "Space Warfare Specialist" (Or just Offer a free Trait Slot for currently owned traits.)

    Promote to Science Officer
    Cost xxxxxx Dilithium
    BOFF Gains 1 Universal Ground Kit Module and 1 Science Kit Module slot
    Gains Additional Trait "Astrophysicist" (Or just Offer a free Trait Slot for currently owned traits.)

    Promote to Chief Engineer
    Cost xxxxxx Dilithium
    BOFF Gains 1 Universal Ground Kit Module and 1 Engineering Kit Module slot
    Gains Additional Trait "Superior Efficiency" (Or just Offer a free Trait Slot for currently owned traits.)

    Promote to ChIef Medical Officer
    Cost xxxxxx Dilithium
    BOFF Gains 1 Universal Ground Kit Module and 1 Science Kit Module slot
    Gains Additional Trait "Survivor Science" (Change the name but same skillset) (Or just Offer a free Trait Slot for currently owned traits.)

    Promote to Security Chief
    Cost xxxxxx Dilithium
    BOFF Gains 1 Universal Ground Kit Module and 1 Tactical Kit Module slot
    Gains Additional Trait "Survivor Tactical"

    Promote to Elite Bridge Officer
    Cost is Dilithium but slightly lower
    BOFF gains 1 Universal Ground Kit module slot.

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