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Where to get TOS Klingon Ships?

oberlordbuddyoberlordbuddy Member Posts: 22 Arc User
edited August 2023 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I wanted to play my new Klingon Recruit as a TOS one and so I'am searching for a TOS Klingon vessel..., are there any out for the Klingons? 🤔
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc
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    I have made 23rd century Klingon augments too and looked for the same thing.

    The only Klingon vessels shown in TOS were the D7 (which is extremely hard and/or expensive to get except as a T2 or thereabouts) and a scoutship that was barely visible in the distance and with its shields lit up by a hit so no surface detail was visible at all.

    The blurry image of the scout does not match up exactly with any of the STO KDF ships (FASA had it as the K-27 escort btw), but the silhouette looked enough like an STO Klingon raptor for it to pass for it if you assume it is shown at a really odd angle.

    Raptors are easy to get, there are even a few in the c-store. Of the c-store ones the Ketha Recon Raptor looks the most right of the bunch if you look at it from the right angle (which would an upsidedown 3/4 angle view that puts one of the nacelles above the body and the other in line with it, like the rollover and burn before exploding thing in the game), and the fact that it is a recon destroyer makes it fitting for the role the scoutship was doing in the show.

    Come to think of it the new recruit T6 BoP might fit the silhouette too, though not as well. It does not cost anything though so it is the best for a rock-bottom bargain interpretation of the scout.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    The cheapest way to get a TOS Era Klingon Ship would be the Kor Bird of Prey with the B'Rel skin. It's a T6 ship so it scales, meaning it levels with you and it's a good ship for Recruits because the Battle Cloak will make those Ambush Kills a lot easier.

    Outside of that, you would be looking for a D7 and as said above, that's going to cost you.. a lot.
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc
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    edited February 2021
    seaofsorrows wrote: »
    The cheapest way to get a TOS Era Klingon Ship would be the Kor Bird of Prey with the B'Rel skin. It's a T6 ship so it scales, meaning it levels with you and it's a good ship for Recruits because the Battle Cloak will make those Ambush Kills a lot easier.

    Outside of that, you would be looking for a D7 and as said above, that's going to cost you.. a lot.

    True, if the OP wants a movie-era ship instead of a strictly TOS one. TOS era itself is usually considered to be TOS itself and sometimes TAS added in. TOS-crew movie stuff is its own era with completely different aesthetics.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited February 2021
    If keeping to strictly onscreen, canon Klingon warships from TOS, that's only the D7.

    For Tier 6 endgame quality, TOS canon Klingon ships, the only one is the Temporal D7. Last I saw from long ago, that was expensive because it's a Promo Pack release.

    There is a K'T'Inga in Tier 5, along with a corresponding Fleet version. Understand that K'T'Inga is the TMP-era refit of the D7. According to that wiki, the TOS D7 skin is locked behind acquiring the Temporal D7.

    If you are willing to get outside the strictly TOS onscreen stuff then some options open up, but they'll be expensive still.
    Kelvin Timeline D7 - Infinity Prize Pack Ship.
    D7 Miracle Worker Flight Deck Carrier - Promo Pack Ship - As shown in S2 Discovery.
    D9 Dreadnought Battlecruiser - Infinity Prize Pack Ship. Not a TOS onscreen canon ship. Looks like an evolution of the Klingon Cruiser past the D7 but has the TOS era style of skin.

    Cryptic has also been doing a bunch of Legendary Ships now. We just got Legendary versions of the Vor'Cha and B'Rel for the KDF. Some guys are thinking a Legendary D7 is down the line. Again, that's speculation.
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  • oberlordbuddyoberlordbuddy Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    So I think I will start to try the cheapes way, the Kor Bird of Pray, it should be fine for my first steps as Tos Klingon 👍🏻Thanx to you all for your help, it's a bit wired for a new Klingon Player to see all the possibilities 🙂
  • cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    Just remember that it's available in one of the starter packs with some extras for less than the cost of the ship. (if you haven't bought it already)
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,882 Arc User
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    If keeping to strictly onscreen, canon Klingon warships from TOS, that's only the D7.

    For Tier 6 endgame quality, TOS canon Klingon ships, the only one is the Temporal D7. Last I saw from long ago, that was expensive because it's a Promo Pack release.

    There is a K'T'Inga in Tier 5, along with a corresponding Fleet version. Understand that K'T'Inga is the TMP-era refit of the D7. According to that wiki, the TOS D7 skin is locked behind acquiring the Temporal D7.

    If you are willing to get outside the strictly TOS onscreen stuff then some options open up, but they'll be expensive still.
    Kelvin Timeline D7 - Infinity Prize Pack Ship.
    D7 Miracle Worker Flight Deck Carrier - Promo Pack Ship - As shown in S2 Discovery.
    D9 Dreadnought Battlecruiser - Infinity Prize Pack Ship. Not a TOS onscreen canon ship. Looks like an evolution of the Klingon Cruiser past the D7 but has the TOS era style of skin.

    Cryptic has also been doing a bunch of Legendary Ships now. We just got Legendary versions of the Vor'Cha and B'Rel for the KDF. Some guys are thinking a Legendary D7 is down the line. Again, that's speculation.

    I was able to use the TOS D7 skin on my T3 Koro't'inga...so maybe it's different or they changed it
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,657 Arc User
    cbrjwrr wrote: »
    Just remember that it's available in one of the starter packs with some extras for less than the cost of the ship. (if you haven't bought it already)

    Good suggestion! It's the Klingon Elite Starter Pack - https://sto.gamepedia.com/Elite_Faction_Starter_Packs
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  • oberlordbuddyoberlordbuddy Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited February 2021
    > @davefenestrator said:
    > Good suggestion! It's the Klingon Elite Starter Pack - https://sto.gamepedia.com/Elite_Faction_Starter_Packs

    Just wanted to start playing now... Atm you'll get it for 1600 Zen... great 🙌🏻 Thank you 🙂
  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,923 Arc User
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    If keeping to strictly onscreen, canon Klingon warships from TOS, that's only the D7.

    For Tier 6 endgame quality, TOS canon Klingon ships, the only one is the Temporal D7. Last I saw from long ago, that was expensive because it's a Promo Pack release.

    There is a K'T'Inga in Tier 5, along with a corresponding Fleet version. Understand that K'T'Inga is the TMP-era refit of the D7. According to that wiki, the TOS D7 skin is locked behind acquiring the Temporal D7.

    If you are willing to get outside the strictly TOS onscreen stuff then some options open up, but they'll be expensive still.
    Kelvin Timeline D7 - Infinity Prize Pack Ship.
    D7 Miracle Worker Flight Deck Carrier - Promo Pack Ship - As shown in S2 Discovery.
    D9 Dreadnought Battlecruiser - Infinity Prize Pack Ship. Not a TOS onscreen canon ship. Looks like an evolution of the Klingon Cruiser past the D7 but has the TOS era style of skin.

    Cryptic has also been doing a bunch of Legendary Ships now. We just got Legendary versions of the Vor'Cha and B'Rel for the KDF. Some guys are thinking a Legendary D7 is down the line. Again, that's speculation.

    it's n ot. my Orion has the K'tinga with the D7 skin, unless the temporal D7 skin is account unlock. and I'm pretty sure it's t3 not t5
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,657 Arc User
    edited February 2021
    vetteguy904 wrote: »
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    If keeping to strictly onscreen, canon Klingon warships from TOS, that's only the D7.

    For Tier 6 endgame quality, TOS canon Klingon ships, the only one is the Temporal D7. Last I saw from long ago, that was expensive because it's a Promo Pack release.

    There is a K'T'Inga in Tier 5, along with a corresponding Fleet version. Understand that K'T'Inga is the TMP-era refit of the D7. According to that wiki, the TOS D7 skin is locked behind acquiring the Temporal D7.

    If you are willing to get outside the strictly TOS onscreen stuff then some options open up, but they'll be expensive still.
    Kelvin Timeline D7 - Infinity Prize Pack Ship.
    D7 Miracle Worker Flight Deck Carrier - Promo Pack Ship - As shown in S2 Discovery.
    D9 Dreadnought Battlecruiser - Infinity Prize Pack Ship. Not a TOS onscreen canon ship. Looks like an evolution of the Klingon Cruiser past the D7 but has the TOS era style of skin.

    Cryptic has also been doing a bunch of Legendary Ships now. We just got Legendary versions of the Vor'Cha and B'Rel for the KDF. Some guys are thinking a Legendary D7 is down the line. Again, that's speculation.

    it's n ot. my Orion has the K'tinga with the D7 skin, unless the temporal D7 skin is account unlock. and I'm pretty sure it's t3 not t5

    Correct, the tier 3 K'Tinga, T5 refit, T5 Fleet can all use the D7 skin for free - https://sto.gamepedia.com/K't'inga_Battlecruiser_Retrofit and fleet - https://sto.gamepedia.com/Fleet_K't'inga_Battlecruiser_Retrofit

    A fleet T5 with the T5U and -X experimental tokens would be a decent ship to fly though the tac seating is only Lt. + ensign.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    edited February 2021
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    vetteguy904 wrote: »
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    If keeping to strictly onscreen, canon Klingon warships from TOS, that's only the D7.

    For Tier 6 endgame quality, TOS canon Klingon ships, the only one is the Temporal D7. Last I saw from long ago, that was expensive because it's a Promo Pack release.

    There is a K'T'Inga in Tier 5, along with a corresponding Fleet version. Understand that K'T'Inga is the TMP-era refit of the D7. According to that wiki, the TOS D7 skin is locked behind acquiring the Temporal D7.

    If you are willing to get outside the strictly TOS onscreen stuff then some options open up, but they'll be expensive still.
    Kelvin Timeline D7 - Infinity Prize Pack Ship.
    D7 Miracle Worker Flight Deck Carrier - Promo Pack Ship - As shown in S2 Discovery.
    D9 Dreadnought Battlecruiser - Infinity Prize Pack Ship. Not a TOS onscreen canon ship. Looks like an evolution of the Klingon Cruiser past the D7 but has the TOS era style of skin.

    Cryptic has also been doing a bunch of Legendary Ships now. We just got Legendary versions of the Vor'Cha and B'Rel for the KDF. Some guys are thinking a Legendary D7 is down the line. Again, that's speculation.

    it's n ot. my Orion has the K'tinga with the D7 skin, unless the temporal D7 skin is account unlock. and I'm pretty sure it's t3 not t5

    Correct, the tier 3 K'Tinga, T5 refit, T5 Fleet can all use the D7 skin for free - https://sto.gamepedia.com/K't'inga_Battlecruiser_Retrofit and fleet - https://sto.gamepedia.com/Fleet_K't'inga_Battlecruiser_Retrofit

    A fleet T5 with the T5U and -X experimental tokens would be a decent ship to fly though the tac seating is only Lt. + ensign.

    If your love is an end game D7 and you don't want to bleed for it.. this is currently your best option. Get yourself a Fleet T5U-X and fly that through the next series of events. Then use the grand prize reward pack to get yourself a T6 D7 of your choice.

    This is why many are frustrated by the new Legendary Pack. Those that love the D7 used to be in the same boat as Fed Players that loved the Constitution. End game versions were just non existent.. then along comes the 10 pack that give feds not one.. not two.. but three different T6 versions of the ship they have been waiting for. Klingon Players are sill waiting for just one single version of the D7 in a T6 account wide unlock. :disappointed:

    Yes, the event will take nearly a year to complete (5 events) but as someone fortunate enough to own the Miracle Worker D7 I can tell you it's worth it. It's such a great ship, it's biggest drawbacks are price and single character unlock.
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  • fallenkezef#4581 fallenkezef
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    seaofsorrows wrote: »
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    vetteguy904 wrote: »
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    If keeping to strictly onscreen, canon Klingon warships from TOS, that's only the D7.

    For Tier 6 endgame quality, TOS canon Klingon ships, the only one is the Temporal D7. Last I saw from long ago, that was expensive because it's a Promo Pack release.

    There is a K'T'Inga in Tier 5, along with a corresponding Fleet version. Understand that K'T'Inga is the TMP-era refit of the D7. According to that wiki, the TOS D7 skin is locked behind acquiring the Temporal D7.

    If you are willing to get outside the strictly TOS onscreen stuff then some options open up, but they'll be expensive still.
    Kelvin Timeline D7 - Infinity Prize Pack Ship.
    D7 Miracle Worker Flight Deck Carrier - Promo Pack Ship - As shown in S2 Discovery.
    D9 Dreadnought Battlecruiser - Infinity Prize Pack Ship. Not a TOS onscreen canon ship. Looks like an evolution of the Klingon Cruiser past the D7 but has the TOS era style of skin.

    Cryptic has also been doing a bunch of Legendary Ships now. We just got Legendary versions of the Vor'Cha and B'Rel for the KDF. Some guys are thinking a Legendary D7 is down the line. Again, that's speculation.

    it's n ot. my Orion has the K'tinga with the D7 skin, unless the temporal D7 skin is account unlock. and I'm pretty sure it's t3 not t5

    Correct, the tier 3 K'Tinga, T5 refit, T5 Fleet can all use the D7 skin for free - https://sto.gamepedia.com/K't'inga_Battlecruiser_Retrofit and fleet - https://sto.gamepedia.com/Fleet_K't'inga_Battlecruiser_Retrofit

    A fleet T5 with the T5U and -X experimental tokens would be a decent ship to fly though the tac seating is only Lt. + ensign.

    If your love is an end game D7 and you don't want to bleed for it.. this is currently your best option. Get yourself a Fleet T5U-X and fly that through the next series of events. Then use the grand prize reward pack to get yourself a T6 D7 of your choice.

    This is why many are frustrated by the new Legendary Pack. Those that love the D7 used to be in the same boat as Fed Players that loved the Constitution. End game versions were just non existent.. then along comes the 10 pack that give feds not one.. not two.. but three different T6 versions of the ship they have been waiting for. Klingon Players are sill waiting for just one single version of the D7 in a T6 account wide unlock. :disappointed:

    Yes, the event will take nearly a year to complete (5 events) but as someone fortunate enough to own the Miracle Worker D7 I can tell you it's worth it. It's such a great ship, it's biggest drawbacks are price and single character unlock.

    Yeah, the MW D7 is earmarked for my main at the end of the event.

    There are rumours of a legendary D7/K'tinga pack in the same vein as the Romulan T'liss at some point
  • mattingly1mattingly1 Member Posts: 206 Arc User
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    Cryptic has also been doing a bunch of Legendary Ships now. We just got Legendary versions of the Vor'Cha and B'Rel for the KDF. Some guys are thinking a Legendary D7 is down the line. Again, that's speculation.

    It's almost inevitable - the speculation would as to when. My guess is later this spring.
  • paradox#7391 paradox
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    Maybe we should build a 23rd century themed KDF Fleet where everyone wears TOS/TAS Uniforms and drives TOS/TAS Ships, Ferasan members can pretend to be Kzinti from the TAS series.
  • warmonger360warmonger360 Member Posts: 524 Arc User
    seaofsorrows wrote: »
    The cheapest way to get a TOS Era Klingon Ship would be the Kor Bird of Prey with the B'Rel skin. It's a T6 ship so it scales, meaning it levels with you and it's a good ship for Recruits because the Battle Cloak will make those Ambush Kills a lot easier.

    Outside of that, you would be looking for a D7 and as said above, that's going to cost you.. a lot.

    yeah, I went with that one for mine, Kor, cuz what you get when ranking up is just batshitugly
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,005 Arc User
    edited February 2021
    Aren't there TOS style skins for BoPs and Raptors for NPCs? They could just make those available. Not canon, but it'd be nice.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Aren't there TOS style skins for BoPs and Raptors for NPCs? They could just make those available. Not canon, but it'd be nice.

    There's not. There is a AoY D5 that's possibly supposed to be a '60s refit of the ENT D5 Battlecruiser (which is about the size of a BoP) that they should make available but I suspect they're waiting to release the D5 properly.
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  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,115 Arc User
    phoenixc#0738 wrote: »
    seaofsorrows wrote: »
    The cheapest way to get a TOS Era Klingon Ship would be the Kor Bird of Prey with the B'Rel skin. It's a T6 ship so it scales, meaning it levels with you and it's a good ship for Recruits because the Battle Cloak will make those Ambush Kills a lot easier.

    Outside of that, you would be looking for a D7 and as said above, that's going to cost you.. a lot.

    True, if the OP wants a movie-era ship instead of a strictly TOS one. TOS era itself is usually considered to be TOS itself and sometimes TAS added in. TOS-crew movie stuff is its own era with completely different aesthetics.

    WRT TAS - it too only ever showed the Klingon D-7 (and for Romulans as well - they never appeared in a classic Romulan BoP on TAS).
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  • kstudioskstudios Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    Some guys are thinking a Legendary D7 is down the line. Again, that's speculation.

    It's honestly probably inevitable at this point.

    What with the Klingon recruit release, a follow-up rank 65 Klingon bundle is very likely. As well, many are expecting the D-7 will be getting the same treatment the Legendary Constitution did. At least, that's where the current evidence points.

    I'm just irritated we can't even upgrade the T5 K'T'inga Class we already freely have access to into a T5-U, lol.
  • vorwodavorwoda Member Posts: 698 Arc User
    kstudios wrote: »
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    I'm just irritated we can't even upgrade the T5 K'T'inga Class we already freely have access to into a T5-U, lol.

    You can't? Huh. I admit I never tried. As soon as I got mine, I went for the T5 Fleet K'Tinga, and that IS upgradeable. I've been flying it ever since (with the D7 skin, and an all-TOS Klingon* crew). Weird that the base T5 model isn't.

    *Well, alien-gen Klingons. At the time, real Klingons in STO didn't have access to humanoid heads.
  • kstudioskstudios Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    vorwoda wrote: »
    I went for the T5 Fleet K'Tinga, and that IS upgradeable. I've been flying it ever since (with the D7 skin, and an all-TOS Klingon* crew). Weird that the base T5 model isn't.

    I will look into this, but yes, the base model cannot be upgraded.
  • joshmauljoshmaul Member Posts: 519 Arc User
    The confusion about the skins - there IS a skin that comes with the Temporal D7, and the picture I saw basically makes it look like a D7 with K't'inga-ish textures. It's apparently meant to resemble the model of the I.K.S. Gr'oth that appeared in the DS9 episode "Trials and Tribble-ations".
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    As much as I love the D7 design I think I've fallen more in love with the Kamarag design. It's not quite as boxy in the main hull, turns faster, and has better weapon mounts in the rear. It's not quite the hammer the legendary D7 is but does allow the player to drop a massive science power or two on a mob while you pick one apart with beam overloads or torp spreads.

    Dern it if they didn't make my massively overpriced T-5UX Kamarag obsolete by creating a sledge-o-matic legendary Vor'cha with a universal (science officer) station for dropping yuge SCI powers on enemies.

    ...and it's pretty freekin beautiful to look at too.
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