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Why do Federation ships use USS?

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  • fallenkezef#4581 fallenkezef
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    edited January 2021
    Why do Federation ships use USS?

    Flaming/trolling redacted. -- WingedHussar
    Post edited by wingedhussar#7584 on
  • nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    edited January 2021
    fallenkezef#4581 wrote: »
    Why do Federation ships use USS?

    Flaming/trolling redacted. -- WingedHussar

    I think Kirk said it in a TOS episode -United Space Ship.
    Post edited by wingedhussar#7584 on
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  • fallenkezef#4581 fallenkezef
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    edited January 2021
    nikephorus wrote: »
    fallenkezef#4581 wrote: »
    Why do Federation ships use USS?

    Flaming/trolling redacted. -- WingedHussar

    I think Kirk said it in a TOS episode -United Space Ship.

    That's the rationalisation. The real reason they did it was for the audience. 60's America was fiercely patriotic and a USS designation played well with the viewers.



    Post edited by wingedhussar#7584 on
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  • fallenkezef#4581 fallenkezef
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    edited January 2021
    keepcalmchiveon wrote: »
    fallenkezef#4581 wrote: »
    nikephorus wrote: »
    fallenkezef#4581 wrote: »
    Why do Federation ships use USS?

    Flaming/trolling redacted. -- WingedHussar

    I think Kirk said it in a TOS episode -United Space Ship.

    That's the rationalisation. The real reason they did it was for the audience. 60's America was fiercely patriotic and a USS designation played well with the viewers.



    it is a naval tradition not only from USA, but UK, and many many more countries. i think you missed the mark a bit mate.

    Well, no. Only America uses USS.

    Britain uses HMS.
    Post edited by wingedhussar#7584 on
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited January 2021
    fallenkezef#4581 wrote: »
    nikephorus wrote: »
    fallenkezef#4581 wrote: »
    Why do Federation ships use USS?

    Flaming/trolling redacted. -- WingedHussar

    I think Kirk said it in a TOS episode -United Space Ship.

    That's the rationalisation. The real reason they did it was for the audience. 60's America was fiercely patriotic and a USS designation played well with the viewers.


    No, it was because the Enterprise was an American ship in the first couple of episodes. There was also a bit where they were part of the "United Earth Space Probe Agency". The TOS writers basically made things up as they went along: it wasn't for several episodes before Gene Coon established the concept of the Federation.
    Post edited by wingedhussar#7584 on
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  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,369 Arc User
    edited January 2021
    fallenkezef#4581 wrote: »
    keepcalmchiveon wrote: »
    fallenkezef#4581 wrote: »
    nikephorus wrote: »
    fallenkezef#4581 wrote: »
    Why do Federation ships use USS?

    Flaming/trolling redacted. -- WingedHussar

    I think Kirk said it in a TOS episode -United Space Ship.

    That's the rationalisation. The real reason they did it was for the audience. 60's America was fiercely patriotic and a USS designation played well with the viewers.



    it is a naval tradition not only from USA, but UK, and many many more countries. i think you missed the mark a bit mate.

    Well, no. Only America uses USS.

    Britain uses HMS.

    Indeed as far as I know USS is USA only on Earth IRL, since it means "United States Ship", HMS stands for His/Her Majesty's Ship (based on the gender of the Monarch, currently "Her Majesty's Ship" due UK having a ruling Queen).
    Post edited by wingedhussar#7584 on
  • darkwing228darkwing228 Member Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited January 2021
    spiritborn wrote: »
    fallenkezef#4581 wrote: »
    keepcalmchiveon wrote: »
    fallenkezef#4581 wrote: »
    nikephorus wrote: »
    fallenkezef#4581 wrote: »
    Why do Federation ships use USS?

    Flaming/trolling redacted. -- WingedHussar

    I think Kirk said it in a TOS episode -United Space Ship.

    That's the rationalisation. The real reason they did it was for the audience. 60's America was fiercely patriotic and a USS designation played well with the viewers.



    it is a naval tradition not only from USA, but UK, and many many more countries. i think you missed the mark a bit mate.

    Well, no. Only America uses USS.

    Britain uses HMS.

    Indeed as far as I know USS is USA only on Earth IRL, since it means "United States Ship", HMS stands for His/Her Majesty's Ship (based on the gender of the Monarch, currently "Her Majesty's Ship" due UK having a ruling Queen).

    And most of the old commonwealth countries use various derivatives of HMS for their ships, for example Australia uses HMAS (His/Her Majesty's Australian Ship)
    Post edited by wingedhussar#7584 on
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited January 2021
    darkwing228 wrote: »
    spiritborn wrote: »
    fallenkezef#4581 wrote: »
    keepcalmchiveon wrote: »
    fallenkezef#4581 wrote: »
    nikephorus wrote: »
    fallenkezef#4581 wrote: »
    Why do Federation ships use USS?

    Flaming/trolling redacted. -- WingedHussar

    I think Kirk said it in a TOS episode -United Space Ship.

    That's the rationalisation. The real reason they did it was for the audience. 60's America was fiercely patriotic and a USS designation played well with the viewers.



    it is a naval tradition not only from USA, but UK, and many many more countries. i think you missed the mark a bit mate.

    Well, no. Only America uses USS.

    Britain uses HMS.

    Indeed as far as I know USS is USA only on Earth IRL, since it means "United States Ship", HMS stands for His/Her Majesty's Ship (based on the gender of the Monarch, currently "Her Majesty's Ship" due UK having a ruling Queen).

    And most of the old commonwealth countries use various derivatives of HMS for their ships, for example Australia uses HMAS (His/Her Majesty's Australian Ship)

    That's because the British monarch is still legally their head of state, even though for all practical purposes the royal governor-general is a ceremonial position. Australian dollar bills still have Queen Elizabeth II on them.
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    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
    — Sabaton, "Great War"
    VZ9ASdg.png

    Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
  • snowwolf#0563 snowwolf
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    United Starfleet Ship?
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,005 Arc User
    snowwolf#0563 wrote: »
    United Starfleet Ship?

    Close. The most common (and semi-canonized) version is indeed "United Starship".​​
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  • eazzieeazzie Member Posts: 4,225 Arc User
    https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    In the case of the Excelsior, Galaxy, and Intrepid it stands for 'Ugly Space Ship' and works as a warning to Klingons, Romulans, or any other species with a sense of aesthetics to switch their viewscreen to audio only.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    USS - United Space Ship
    IKS - Imperial Klingon Ship
    RRW - Republic Romulan Warbird
    DV - Dominion Vessel/Vehicle
    ISS - Imperial Space Ship
    IRW - Imperial Romulan Warbird
    VSS - Voth Space Ship

    One could do the same for:
    KNS - Kazon Nistrim Ship
    KOS - Kazon Ogla Ship
    LBS - Liberated Borg Ship
    BCV - Borg Collective Vessel

    plenty of ship registries, but they are all generically named.
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