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talonsintalonsin Member Posts: 11 Arc User
Just wondering what sales/events are coming up and can not find a calendar anywhere. Dont know if I am just too old and silly to find it or does it not exist?
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    sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    we had one but they took it away. It was highly useful to me. People will now come to trash it.
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,345 Arc User
    talonsin wrote: »
    Just wondering what sales/events are coming up and can not find a calendar anywhere. Dont know if I am just too old and silly to find it or does it not exist?

    There's never been a calendar that showed when sales where on. All we have is supposition. There used to be a calendar ingame, but it rarely showed more than 4 weeks in advance, as was often incorrect as events changed, either due to being delayed or whatever reason, and as it could only be changed with a patch, it wasn't reliable enough.
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    talonsintalonsin Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    So the devs just slap something in when they feel like it. Great...
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    crm14916crm14916 Member Posts: 1,516 Arc User
    LOL
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    saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,394 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Granted we used to get 'Roadmaps' - but they were acutally pretty vague.
    And they got rid of it with the lamest official reason possible: The COVID pandemic.

    "Yes, we can create new ships and maps during those times, but an info graph with mostly text and a handful of pictures? Dear god, no, completely unfeasible."
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    ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    What do you think this is Cryptic's Neverwinter?
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    nccmarknccmark Member Posts: 1,083 Arc User
    Sales have never been announced too far in advance. Always less than a day in advance, sometimes not until right when it starts.
    They aren't fools, they want your full price spending today.

    Your only workaround, only buy stuff on sale, then you don't feel ripped off at all.
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    phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,507 Arc User
    westmetals wrote: »
    Well, yes, but my point was that the removal of the calendar was probably not so much because of maintenance issues (it had always had the same issues) but because of increasing player toxicity and vocality about them. Back in say 2017-ish, if an upcoming weekend event got pushed back, etc, people didn't really make a big deal about it. But then people started this "YOU LIED! YOU PROMISED US X EVENT THIS WEEKEND!!! YOU SUCK!!!" and the only way to stop them was to stop making any kind of statement that they could interpret as a promise.

    Attacking Cryptic, etc., for not being able to get the calendar to work the way some players think it should have... okay that would be a logical attack. Attacking every time there's a change of plans on the basis that preliminary plans are an ironclad promise, which was never stated, is not logical.

    In the case of the calendar, from what I hear it was based on a project tracking tool that was built into the toolchain but they did not use, but with working from home that tool is probably being used for its original purpose.
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    foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    edited December 2020
    I think an accurate in-game calendar just proved too much for Cryptic's efforts.

    Similar to the Foundry: it isn't monetized, it requires resources for it to work proper, lacking resources to fix it &/or the desire to fix it, so get rid of it since it is a potential more accountability eyesore.
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    gonaliusgonalius Member Posts: 893 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Granted we used to get 'Roadmaps' - but they were acutally pretty vague.
    And they got rid of it with the lamest official reason possible: The COVID pandemic.

    "Yes, we can create new ships and maps during those times, but an info graph with mostly text and a handful of pictures? Dear god, no, completely unfeasible."

    The roadmaps state upcoming content. With folks working from home, there's no guarantee the content will be ready on time. Say they said there would be a new episode and it got delayed. The whining would hit ridiculous levels... Not that it doesn't anyway.
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    saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,394 Arc User
    gonalius wrote: »
    The roadmaps state upcoming content. With folks working from home, there's no guarantee the content will be ready on time. Say they said there would be a new episode and it got delayed. The whining would hit ridiculous levels... Not that it doesn't anyway.
    As if the previous roadmaps were accurate in the first place.
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    jennycolvinjennycolvin Member Posts: 1,100 Arc User
    And sometimes it wasn't even by "month", but rather by season.
    So yeah, lame reason as with pretty much everything else.

    But as usual, it's easier to say "the whining would hit ridiculous levels", because it's ALWAYS the playerbase's fault, isn't it?
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    ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    When over half your Roadmap is just telling you what Promotion Ships are upcoming it's easy to be accurate.
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    mainamaina Member Posts: 430 Arc User
    edited December 2020
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    In general I agree with most of this post. I have one problem, you seem a little too rosy on Cryptic and very critical of PWE. I have no vested interest in PWE, and am not a rabid fanboy of the company, though I have been playing some of their games longer than STO has been around.

    Hiring programmers full time, a separate foundry programmer and such ideas would be good if you had any idea on how to profit while maintaining the higher pay that programmers get as opposed to "Script Kiddie" level developers. Many (and I'm almost confident enough about saying most) game companies shed the higher level programmers and move to maintenance and minor development level workers once the game engine is "finalized". I base this on not only all the public available information on the industry, but the real world experience of several close friends and family (as well as myself, to a lesser degree, I have never held a "top end" programmers spot, but I've been hired to maintain their work before). Though I have to say that Cryptic seems to have gone a little lower than that, they don't seem to have anyone who can even+ learn a Forum system.

    PWE is not going to throw money at one of it's companies if the metrics say it won't help the shareholders, no matter what some fan on the internet swears the revenue would be. It's basic business. Also Cryptics communication "issues", events, how it treats players, etc is all Cryptic, I say this because I have never seen this is the half dozen games I've played of PWE.

    I said this on a reddit thread, PWI (perfect world international) the flagship game of PWE, is older than STO, yet maintains in game GM's, regular ingame player events (like many, mostly Asian grinder mmo's),Trivia contests, guess the monster, or even "Come see the GM's Model the new gear releasing in the cash shop, and maybe win some!", weekly. They also announce mistakes and send trinkets to all players for the inconvenience. This actually is a very common occurrence in all the Asian Grind MMO's I ever played, not so much with European and American studios. The Grinder market knows that personal engagement works well with "shinnies" and power creep, to keep the customers spending. Ask yourself honestly, even at the prices Cryptic charges, would you spend more (or even just spend) money, if the company was communicating with the fans, in game showing things off, or just generally trying to liven things up by having a GM randomly popping into social zones (or scheduled) and giving away little things for triva games?

    As a matter of fact, I encourage everyone to pick up a Asian grinder, one that is 10+ years old and still getting updates, you will not only see a different level of service, but you will also see what happens when new events are added to every seasonal event every year, when new things to do at endgame is added every year, and new social zones are added every major update. I'm not saying you'll like it, or that they are better, but some experience in these games offer insight and knowledge which lead to opinions that are "informed", something sorely lacking in more than just game forums.

    Last note. In case some one (no offense but I am looking at you SOM) says things about fitting into schedules and "It's not the job of X to do that", it can be, it is in many other games. when your staff has been tweeting all day about politics, new Star Trek merch you can buy, more politics and following any cute girl that's starting to stream your game (you can see this all on twitter yourselves) on personal accounts, instead of communicating even the bare minimum of customer service, you fail.

    This is not PWE, it's Cryptic.
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    fluxcapacitor#9257 fluxcapacitor Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    westmetals wrote: »
    ...because of increasing player toxicity and vocality about them. Back in say 2017-ish, if an upcoming weekend event got pushed back, etc, people didn't really make a big deal about it. But then people started this "YOU LIED! YOU PROMISED US X EVENT THIS WEEKEND!!! YOU SUCK!!!" and the only way to stop them was to stop making any kind of statement that they could interpret as a promise.

    There is a really, REALLY easy solution to that problem. Which is to publish an event, and then stick to it. How hard is that, really? How hard is it to say three weeks in advance there is going to be an upgrade weekend, and then just do it?

    The increasing player toxicity came from people making actual decisions on what are, sometimes, real-word assets based on these plans, and the increasing lack of care that Cryptic had for carrying through.
    westmetals wrote: »
    Attacking Cryptic, etc., for not being able to get the calendar to work the way some players think it should have... okay that would be a logical attack. Attacking every time there's a change of plans on the basis that preliminary plans are an ironclad promise, which was never stated, is not logical.

    Both are completely valid targets. You can't tell me that what used to be the occasional change in plans didn't skyrocket to massive misinformation and rampant disregard for what was in the schedule. And Cryptic's answer to valid criticism over that is to just remove all plan announcements entirely is really just giving the finger, yet again, to the community that supports them.

    In the end, doing what was done in the beginning, and done for close to a decade, really wasn't all that hard. It's not like if they planned an upgrade weekend that if they also wanted to have another mini-event that it would been terribly hard to just do that too. How hard is that? How hard is it really to just do what you said you were going to do?
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