This was alot more common before the prices put the commas in there.
But truly a hard lesson to learn in this case: double check your price before clicking Post.
When the Exchange's sort function was acting up I bought the Discovery ship for 400M. There were some posted for around 250M that I didn't see. I made someone very happy.
You might be able to talk to customer support to try and get the sale undine.
No, the Undine would simply brush you off, and say "The weak will perish!"
Yep. I don't feel sorry for anyone when they make that mistake. If I see a ship that's CRAZY STUPID EXPENSIVE posted for a fraction, I'll get it, send it to the toon I want to use it for and OPEN IT.
And I won't shed a tear.
Hehe; me neither. And as for taking a ship that's CRAZY STUPID EXPENSIVE posted for a fraction, as the guy said in Red October, "We definitely grab the boat, sir!" XD
If a virtual item is clearly sold at a mistaken price that's clearly not just a big discount, and if the person contacts you within a reasonable time frame politely asking to undo the trade, how one responds to this situation I strongly believe is a sign of one's inner condition which will reflect to an immense degree irrespective to the otherwise possibly insignificant nature of the transaction in a game itself.
Not proselytizing, just talking about the general humanistic approach of the Star Trek universe for its protagonists, UFP members, and other highly advanced cultures depicted and not just technologically. I've seen a lot of players 'role-play' that real well, going above and beyond that even and with no conditions or representation of anything.
Seeing that part of the player experience in STO has kept the place special.
If a virtual item is clearly sold at a mistaken price that's clearly not just a big discount, and if the person contacts you within a reasonable time frame politely asking to undo the trade, how one responds to this situation I strongly believe is a sign of one's inner condition which will reflect to an immense degree irrespective to the otherwise possibly insignificant nature of the transaction in a game itself.
That last sentence was kinda gibberish. I get your gist, though. And... I would still grab the boat. XD. If for nothing else, because if I don't, 0.2 secs later someone else will have.
I will never try and scam someone; like putting up faux R&D boxes (with only older ships in it) during a promo, or stuff like that. But if someone essentially hands me a free ship, consider it forfeit. No one ever gave me my 100 keys back when I meant to list only 10 (and I didn't even ask: you're supposed to double-check your prices, I know that). The Lord giveth, the Lord taketh away.
You might be able to talk to customer support to try and get the sale undine. I don't know about STO but SWTOR customer service has a thing where you can ask them to undo a sale or accidental discard for any item, but theyll only do it 3 times in one year. (I think it's to prevent people from scamming them or something), but honestly my experiences with Cryptic Support are very mixed, so it's hard to say if they would do it and I've never encountered the issue myself. Worst I've ever done was sale 10 keys for the price of one. But I've also bought like 999 keys for the price of one key before but the guy who I got them from never tried to contact me to ask for them back.
Not sure what game in SWTOR you might be playing but this information is not correct.
It is common knowledge that SWTOR is horrible dealing with customer issues and actually I prefer STO than SWTOR for CS issues. When it comes to what happened to the OP. No chance he would get the credits back from CS even in SWTOR. Unless you got lucky or unexperienced CS person they do not make a habit of just giving free money for errors they did not commit. If you lose items or delete them by mistake that's another story and perhaps they might help. However, when it comes to bad sales you are on your own.
Better luck with dealing with the person who bought the items from you.
I don't know about STO but SWTOR customer service has a thing where you can ask them to undo a sale or accidental discard for any item, but theyll only do it 3 times in one year.
I apparently wasn't paying attention to this the first time and missed this line. For SWTOR I'm a founder in that game since closed beta. In all that time I have never seen them reverse a GTN transaction unless the account selling the item was somehow compromised. Otherwise they're not going to get involved in GTN transactions as that's simply a player dispute and not their concern. The service you're mentioning is intended for "oops I accidently deleted my lightsaber hilt that cost me 5000 cartel coins" and similar type stuff. Otherwise what's to stop a person from selling a color crystal for example, then deciding after a little bit, "wait I want to keep that afterall"? That's part of why they don't get involved. More on this below.
If a virtual item is clearly sold at a mistaken price that's clearly not just a big discount, and if the person contacts you within a reasonable time frame politely asking to undo the trade, how one responds to this situation I strongly believe is a sign of one's inner condition which will reflect to an immense degree irrespective to the otherwise possibly insignificant nature of the transaction in a game itself.
Like I was starting to explain above, there's several reasons companies don't get involved with reversing transactions unless one of the accounts involved was TRIBBLE. One of the big reasons is like I named above. What if a person sells a ship, then turns around and decides they wanted to keep it afterall? Well if that's the case why did they try to sell it to start with? If they're unsure if they want to sell the thing it's best to just sit on it. If the company were to start reversing transactions where neither account was compromised just because they're requested, what's to stop instances of a player trying to get a transaction reversed because they realize they could have sold an item for more EC than what they sold it for prior? Suppose a new type of crafted deflector is introduced that's really good and a guy sells it. Suppose the price of the deflector jumps 10 fold over night. What's to stop that guy from trying to get it reversed only to get more EC? What would be to stop a guy from intentionally selling a promo ship for 200m, then messaging the buyer and trying to extort extra EC to keep the ship under threat of reversing the transaction? I realize the last one is a bit of a stretch but believe it or not I've heard of crazier.
In regards to items being bought for the wrong price on the exchange, I never return items if/when asked, nor do I ask for items to be returned if I'm the one that lists for the wrong price. Reason being it's incumbent on the seller to verify their price before they list and make sure they want to sell it. I also don't ask for it back if i'm the seller because that just stinks of me trying to extort extra EC from someone to keep the item and I don't roll that way. The buyer has no control over what the seller meant to do or didn't mean to do and is not a mind reader. It's a simple business transaction, nothing more nothing less. It's like a business that puts an item up for a specific price on their website. If they put the item up for $20 when it normally goes for $200, if they intend to keep the money they must honor that $20 price. Like I said prior, if I goof up and list an item for the wrong price, that's on me and not the dude that bought it.
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In regards to items being bought for the wrong price on the exchange, I never return items if/when asked, nor do I ask for items to be returned if I'm the one that lists for the wrong price. Reason being it's incumbent on the seller to verify their price before they list and make sure they want to sell it. I also don't ask for it back if i'm the seller because that just stinks of me trying to extort extra EC from someone to keep the item and I don't roll that way. The buyer has no control over what the seller meant to do or didn't mean to do and is not a mind reader. It's a simple business transaction, nothing more nothing less. It's like a business that puts an item up for a specific price on their website. If they put the item up for $20 when it normally goes for $200, if they intend to keep the money they must honor that $20 price. Like I said prior, if I goof up and list an item for the wrong price, that's on me and not the dude that bought it.
Dutch civil Law actually protects the seller from making mistakes like the OP. For instance, our Supreme Court (Hoge Raad) determined a huge online store didn't have to sell a plasma TV for $120, when it was clearly meant to be sold for $1,200. Consumers simply can't take advantage of what are essentially misprints/typos.
This situation is different, though. The buyer didn't insist the OP sell it for 600k; rather, the deal was already finalized here (which happens when an offer is made, and then subsequently accepted). 'Backsies' are notoriously tough (basically you're asking for a contract to be broken open, which, other than for statutory reasons, Courts are rarely willing to do).
In regards to items being bought for the wrong price on the exchange, I never return items if/when asked, nor do I ask for items to be returned if I'm the one that lists for the wrong price. Reason being it's incumbent on the seller to verify their price before they list and make sure they want to sell it. I also don't ask for it back if i'm the seller because that just stinks of me trying to extort extra EC from someone to keep the item and I don't roll that way. The buyer has no control over what the seller meant to do or didn't mean to do and is not a mind reader. It's a simple business transaction, nothing more nothing less. It's like a business that puts an item up for a specific price on their website. If they put the item up for $20 when it normally goes for $200, if they intend to keep the money they must honor that $20 price. Like I said prior, if I goof up and list an item for the wrong price, that's on me and not the dude that bought it.
Dutch civil Law actually protects the seller from making mistakes like the OP. For instance, our Supreme Court (Hoge Raad) determined a huge online store didn't have to sell a plasma TV for $120, when it was clearly meant to be sold for $1,200. Consumers simply can't take advantage of what are essentially misprints/typos.
This situation is different, though. The buyer didn't insist the OP sell it for 600k; rather, the deal was already finalized here (which happens when an offer is made, and then subsequently accepted). 'Backsies' are notoriously tough (basically you're asking for a contract to be broken open, which, other than for statutory reasons, Courts are rarely willing to do).
It gets worse since the item being sold may not exist by the time the seller contacts support. It's possible for someone to take less than 30 minutes between buying a ship and flying it in a TFO.
Dutch civil Law actually protects the seller from making mistakes like the OP. For instance, our Supreme Court (Hoge Raad) determined a huge online store didn't have to sell a plasma TV for $120, when it was clearly meant to be sold for $1,200. Consumers simply can't take advantage of what are essentially misprints/typos.
This situation is different, though. The buyer didn't insist the OP sell it for 600k; rather, the deal was already finalized here (which happens when an offer is made, and then subsequently accepted). 'Backsies' are notoriously tough (basically you're asking for a contract to be broken open, which, other than for statutory reasons, Courts are rarely willing to do).
Note that I said "if they want to keep the money they must honor that $20 price." Meaning that the money has already changed hands before the business caught the error and corrected it. I should have been more clear on that.
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I've taken advantage of either benevolent pricing or mistake pricing a few times over the years. Twice I was contacted about returning it & once I agreed. The agreed upon was for the original price & the individual gave me a bit extra surprisingly. The denied was because the player was rude from the beginning so I quickly declined. I've also placed a couple of items on the Exchange at a too-high price just for storage but then it sold lol so those ship parts selling were bitter sweet. I do agree it used to be a lot worse before the commas were introduced & that is extremely helpful! Nowadays it seems the Exchange is the new PvP especially with the inflation rates.
I don't know about STO but SWTOR customer service has a thing where you can ask them to undo a sale or accidental discard for any item, but theyll only do it 3 times in one year.
I apparently wasn't paying attention to this the first time and missed this line. For SWTOR I'm a founder in that game since closed beta. In all that time I have never seen them reverse a GTN transaction unless the account selling the item was somehow compromised. Otherwise they're not going to get involved in GTN transactions as that's simply a player dispute and not their concern. The service you're mentioning is intended for "oops I accidently deleted my lightsaber hilt that cost me 5000 cartel coins" and similar type stuff. Otherwise what's to stop a person from selling a color crystal for example, then deciding after a little bit, "wait I want to keep that afterall"? That's part of why they don't get involved. More on this below.
If a virtual item is clearly sold at a mistaken price that's clearly not just a big discount, and if the person contacts you within a reasonable time frame politely asking to undo the trade, how one responds to this situation I strongly believe is a sign of one's inner condition which will reflect to an immense degree irrespective to the otherwise possibly insignificant nature of the transaction in a game itself.
Like I was starting to explain above, there's several reasons companies don't get involved with reversing transactions unless one of the accounts involved was TRIBBLE. One of the big reasons is like I named above. What if a person sells a ship, then turns around and decides they wanted to keep it afterall? Well if that's the case why did they try to sell it to start with? If they're unsure if they want to sell the thing it's best to just sit on it. If the company were to start reversing transactions where neither account was compromised just because they're requested, what's to stop instances of a player trying to get a transaction reversed because they realize they could have sold an item for more EC than what they sold it for prior? Suppose a new type of crafted deflector is introduced that's really good and a guy sells it. Suppose the price of the deflector jumps 10 fold over night. What's to stop that guy from trying to get it reversed only to get more EC? What would be to stop a guy from intentionally selling a promo ship for 200m, then messaging the buyer and trying to extort extra EC to keep the ship under threat of reversing the transaction? I realize the last one is a bit of a stretch but believe it or not I've heard of crazier.
In regards to items being bought for the wrong price on the exchange, I never return items if/when asked, nor do I ask for items to be returned if I'm the one that lists for the wrong price. Reason being it's incumbent on the seller to verify their price before they list and make sure they want to sell it. I also don't ask for it back if i'm the seller because that just stinks of me trying to extort extra EC from someone to keep the item and I don't roll that way. The buyer has no control over what the seller meant to do or didn't mean to do and is not a mind reader. It's a simple business transaction, nothing more nothing less. It's like a business that puts an item up for a specific price on their website. If they put the item up for $20 when it normally goes for $200, if they intend to keep the money they must honor that $20 price. Like I said prior, if I goof up and list an item for the wrong price, that's on me and not the dude that bought it.
I'm a founder with swtor as well, and I did actually get them to undo a GTN transaction once. I had accidentally sold a lightsaber hilt that was worth an exhorbitant sum of credits (its the kylo ren one), and they fixed it for me but notified me they would only do it 3 times in a year. Admittedly, this issue was years ago, and I've been fairly inactive in Swtor since then (Its basically not worth playing unless you subscribe, and they refuse to offer a lifetimes subscription, so I only really play when I can afford safely to pay for it). So its possible they changed their policy on it over time.
Also, to the other person saying that swtor has terrible customer service, I admit its terrible if you aren't subscriber (or atleast as I remember it) since you have to go an extremely roundabout way to get in contact with them (It used to be that non subscribers had to email the customer support, because the normal methods were "subscriber only") But when I was subscribed, everytime I had an issue they were very promt. Far far faster than STO customer support. But it has been a couple years since the last time I needed to contact them for something, so they could have gone downhill in that time frame.
Never had this issue and ive been playing MMO since SWG/Original WoW. I double and triple check the price before posting the item. It sucks royally but 99.99% chance it was you who messed up just got to learn from it. Ah how I miss the old days of SWG trade forums, was always a fun time there.
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But truly a hard lesson to learn in this case: double check your price before clicking Post.
When the Exchange's sort function was acting up I bought the Discovery ship for 400M. There were some posted for around 250M that I didn't see.
Hehe; me neither.
Not proselytizing, just talking about the general humanistic approach of the Star Trek universe for its protagonists, UFP members, and other highly advanced cultures depicted and not just technologically. I've seen a lot of players 'role-play' that real well, going above and beyond that even and with no conditions or representation of anything.
Seeing that part of the player experience in STO has kept the place special.
That last sentence was kinda gibberish.
I will never try and scam someone; like putting up faux R&D boxes (with only older ships in it) during a promo, or stuff like that. But if someone essentially hands me a free ship, consider it forfeit. No one ever gave me my 100 keys back when I meant to list only 10 (and I didn't even ask: you're supposed to double-check your prices, I know that). The Lord giveth, the Lord taketh away.
Not sure what game in SWTOR you might be playing but this information is not correct.
It is common knowledge that SWTOR is horrible dealing with customer issues and actually I prefer STO than SWTOR for CS issues. When it comes to what happened to the OP. No chance he would get the credits back from CS even in SWTOR. Unless you got lucky or unexperienced CS person they do not make a habit of just giving free money for errors they did not commit. If you lose items or delete them by mistake that's another story and perhaps they might help. However, when it comes to bad sales you are on your own.
Better luck with dealing with the person who bought the items from you.
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I apparently wasn't paying attention to this the first time and missed this line. For SWTOR I'm a founder in that game since closed beta. In all that time I have never seen them reverse a GTN transaction unless the account selling the item was somehow compromised. Otherwise they're not going to get involved in GTN transactions as that's simply a player dispute and not their concern. The service you're mentioning is intended for "oops I accidently deleted my lightsaber hilt that cost me 5000 cartel coins" and similar type stuff. Otherwise what's to stop a person from selling a color crystal for example, then deciding after a little bit, "wait I want to keep that afterall"? That's part of why they don't get involved. More on this below.
Like I was starting to explain above, there's several reasons companies don't get involved with reversing transactions unless one of the accounts involved was TRIBBLE. One of the big reasons is like I named above. What if a person sells a ship, then turns around and decides they wanted to keep it afterall? Well if that's the case why did they try to sell it to start with? If they're unsure if they want to sell the thing it's best to just sit on it. If the company were to start reversing transactions where neither account was compromised just because they're requested, what's to stop instances of a player trying to get a transaction reversed because they realize they could have sold an item for more EC than what they sold it for prior? Suppose a new type of crafted deflector is introduced that's really good and a guy sells it. Suppose the price of the deflector jumps 10 fold over night. What's to stop that guy from trying to get it reversed only to get more EC? What would be to stop a guy from intentionally selling a promo ship for 200m, then messaging the buyer and trying to extort extra EC to keep the ship under threat of reversing the transaction? I realize the last one is a bit of a stretch but believe it or not I've heard of crazier.
In regards to items being bought for the wrong price on the exchange, I never return items if/when asked, nor do I ask for items to be returned if I'm the one that lists for the wrong price. Reason being it's incumbent on the seller to verify their price before they list and make sure they want to sell it. I also don't ask for it back if i'm the seller because that just stinks of me trying to extort extra EC from someone to keep the item and I don't roll that way. The buyer has no control over what the seller meant to do or didn't mean to do and is not a mind reader. It's a simple business transaction, nothing more nothing less. It's like a business that puts an item up for a specific price on their website. If they put the item up for $20 when it normally goes for $200, if they intend to keep the money they must honor that $20 price. Like I said prior, if I goof up and list an item for the wrong price, that's on me and not the dude that bought it.
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Dutch civil Law actually protects the seller from making mistakes like the OP. For instance, our Supreme Court (Hoge Raad) determined a huge online store didn't have to sell a plasma TV for $120, when it was clearly meant to be sold for $1,200. Consumers simply can't take advantage of what are essentially misprints/typos.
This situation is different, though. The buyer didn't insist the OP sell it for 600k; rather, the deal was already finalized here (which happens when an offer is made, and then subsequently accepted). 'Backsies' are notoriously tough (basically you're asking for a contract to be broken open, which, other than for statutory reasons, Courts are rarely willing to do).
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Note that I said "if they want to keep the money they must honor that $20 price." Meaning that the money has already changed hands before the business caught the error and corrected it. I should have been more clear on that.
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I'm a founder with swtor as well, and I did actually get them to undo a GTN transaction once. I had accidentally sold a lightsaber hilt that was worth an exhorbitant sum of credits (its the kylo ren one), and they fixed it for me but notified me they would only do it 3 times in a year. Admittedly, this issue was years ago, and I've been fairly inactive in Swtor since then (Its basically not worth playing unless you subscribe, and they refuse to offer a lifetimes subscription, so I only really play when I can afford safely to pay for it). So its possible they changed their policy on it over time.
Also, to the other person saying that swtor has terrible customer service, I admit its terrible if you aren't subscriber (or atleast as I remember it) since you have to go an extremely roundabout way to get in contact with them (It used to be that non subscribers had to email the customer support, because the normal methods were "subscriber only") But when I was subscribed, everytime I had an issue they were very promt. Far far faster than STO customer support. But it has been a couple years since the last time I needed to contact them for something, so they could have gone downhill in that time frame.
The flip side to that is just think about how happy you made someone else.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'