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Can I haz the Edison...

koppsterkoppster Member Posts: 179 Arc User
edited September 2023 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
...in a science ship variant? In fact, all of them in sci flavor. The Roms in particular are really hurting for a decent science vessel. I really like the design and would fly it regardless, but no secondary deflector is a deal-breaker for any serious sci captain :'(
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  • kidinthehall#2744 kidinthehall
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    No you may not but damn am I excited to see the Hoover as the Fleet Variant, I was mad at first cause that was really the only DSC ship left to be added and thought it was gonna be skipped but hell the Edison looks great too. Thank you Cryptic!
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited July 2019
    koppster wrote: »
    ...in a science ship variant? In fact, all of them in sci flavor. The Roms in particular are really hurting for a decent science vessel. I really like the design and would fly it regardless, but no secondary deflector is a deal-breaker for any serious sci captain :'(

    What are the Multi-Mission Science Vessels then? Chopped Liver?

    I can understand wanting more options for Science, since I love Science ships, too, but there is no need to claim that the Romulans have no good Science Vessels. They just could have more.

    But I fear Science is the red-headed step child among player preferences. Everyone wants to fly Cruisers and maybe Escorts (or Escort/Cruiser hybrid wannabes like Warships.)
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,669 Community Moderator
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    But I fear Science is the red-headed step child among player preferences. Everyone wants to fly Cruisers and maybe Escorts (or Escort/Cruiser hybrid wannabes like Warships.)

    Actually I think Science is in a pretty good place. May not be Mainstream Meta, but Science can wreck house with the best of them. You get a Megawell Build going... dear god! All the things! All the explosions! In one location. lol

    The current meta may focus on weapons, but Science can still keep up if you know what your doing. And ripping the universe a new one can be just as satisfying.

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    Yang Xiao Long wrote:
    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,507 Arc User
    koppster wrote: »
    ...in a science ship variant? In fact, all of them in sci flavor. The Roms in particular are really hurting for a decent science vessel. I really like the design and would fly it regardless, but no secondary deflector is a deal-breaker for any serious sci captain :'(

    Roms hurting for a decent Sci Vessel....my Sci Rom would like to object to that statement.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • koppsterkoppster Member Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited July 2019
    Roms hurting for a decent Sci Vessel....my Sci Rom would like to object to that statement.

    I don't count the Operations Warbirds as "proper" sci ships, I'm prejudiced :) If it has a hangar bay...and the only other candidate I can think of is the Laeosa. If you're fed aligned, you can pilot the fed sci vessels anyway, but you lose out on the singularity powers and the cloak if you aren't piloting a warbird.

    What's your ship?

  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,507 Arc User
    edited July 2019
    koppster wrote: »
    Roms hurting for a decent Sci Vessel....my Sci Rom would like to object to that statement.

    I don't count the Operations Warbirds as "proper" sci ships, I'm prejudiced :) If it has a hangar bay...and the only other candidate I can think of is the Laeosa. If you're fed aligned, you can pilot the fed sci vessels anyway, but you lose out on the singularity powers and the cloak if you aren't piloting a warbird.

    What's your ship?

    The Galas Surveillance Explorer out of the Rom Multi-Mission pack, which are all full Science Vessels, secondary deflector AND hangar AND have Battle Cloak AND Singularity Drive.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    The Galas Surveillance Explorer out of the Rom Multi-Mission pack, which are all full Science Vessels, secondary deflector AND hangar AND have Battle Cloak AND Singularity Drive.

    Oh yeah, the Multi Mission pack is great on all three factions. The Gorn are lacking the cloak of course but come with better pets, Feds got the short straw here but still a great ship. Also, some of the cross faction sci focused vessels are not to be sneezed at (Ho'kuun and T'Pau both perform great, are not available at the moment though if you don't have them, and I also think the Sarr Theln, with the same caveat, is underrated, and the Eternal can be built into a monster. Both Cardi and Jem also do their jobs.).

    But while it feels that we have every cruiser combination possible down to having the comm seat on the bridge outfitted for left handed people, choice of "true" faction Sci ships feels limited on non Fed toons.
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,507 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    koppster wrote: »
    Roms hurting for a decent Sci Vessel....my Sci Rom would like to object to that statement.

    I don't count the Operations Warbirds as "proper" sci ships, I'm prejudiced :) If it has a hangar bay...and the only other candidate I can think of is the Laeosa. If you're fed aligned, you can pilot the fed sci vessels anyway, but you lose out on the singularity powers and the cloak if you aren't piloting a warbird.

    What's your ship?

    The Galas Surveillance Explorer out of the Rom Multi-Mission pack, which are all full Science Vessels, secondary deflector AND hangar.
    xyquarze wrote: »
    leemwatson wrote: »
    The Galas Surveillance Explorer out of the Rom Multi-Mission pack, which are all full Science Vessels, secondary deflector AND hangar AND have Battle Cloak AND Singularity Drive.

    Oh yeah, the Multi Mission pack is great on all three factions. The Gorn are lacking the cloak of course but come with better pets, Feds got the short straw here but still a great ship. Also, some of the cross faction sci focused vessels are not to be sneezed at (Ho'kuun and T'Pau both perform great, are not available at the moment though if you don't have them, and I also think the Sarr Theln, with the same caveat, is underrated, and the Eternal can be built into a monster. Both Cardi and Jem also do their jobs.).

    But while it feels that we have every cruiser combination possible down to having the comm seat on the bridge outfitted for left handed people, choice of "true" faction Sci ships feels limited on non Fed toons.

    Where I don't have the Paradox on toons, I use the Cardi Sci Dread over the MMSV's. Not bothered about lack of turn-rate, as they still make fearsome fighting machines.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,668 Arc User
    If I get one, I am naming it USS Tesla. ;)
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,669 Community Moderator
    leemwatson wrote: »
    Where I don't have the Paradox on toons, I use the Cardi Sci Dread over the MMSV's. Not bothered about lack of turn-rate, as they still make fearsome fighting machines.

    The main thing that makes the MMSVs more attractive for Science is the full Temporal mechanic. If your build is more focused on science than weapons damage, being able to turn on that Support Config is a boost to that.
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    Yang Xiao Long wrote:
    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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  • powskierpowskier Member Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited July 2019
    (Please don't troll the forum. - BMR)
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,669 Community Moderator
    h8EB4D6E9
    Had to be done.
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    Yang Xiao Long wrote:
    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
    normal text = me speaking as fellow formite
    colored text = mod mode
  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,918 Arc User
    Frankly I don't mind when people use haz over have. It's harmless, except to people who are obsessed with grammar, I suppose. I used to be, then I got over it lol.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
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