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misanthrope#6636 misanthrope Member Posts: 84 Arc User
I'm looking for the most energy-credit efficient way to upgrade an item's rarity. I know superior upgrade books are best to use but I'm wanting to know should I use research boost (x1.5) or major research boost (x2.0). The major research boosts are just so over-priced compared to the 1.5 version, they're like 10x more costly. I have about 31m energy credits to spend btw.

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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,687 Community Moderator
    edited June 2019
    The MOST Energy Credit and Dilithium Effecient way would probably be to upgrade Mk II Purple up to endgame level if we're not talking use of Phoenix Tech upgrades or Omega Tech Upgrades. Higher chance of triggering Quality upgrades to at least Ultra Rare with fewer upgrades being used, thus less Dilithium being used.
    As for the boosters... not sure.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited June 2019
    Since you're looking for the 'best' way.. here it is.

    Start with a low mark item of VR quality. You can start with something worse then VR but that just leaves one more rarity grade you need to increase. Most start with Mark II Very Rare.

    Take that item, put it in your bank, and wait until an upgrade weekend.

    During an upgrade weekend, upgrade the item using a Omega Particle Upgrade from the Anniversary Event. If you don't have one, then head to the exchange and purchase 3 Omega Fragments. Combine them in your R&D Tab into a Omega Upgrade kit. This project will take 20 hrs.

    Slot the Omega Upgrade and a research point accelerator (2x Chance.) You can get these in R&D Packs or on the exchange, usually for about 1.8-2M EC.

    This should give you a 40% chance of quality upgrade. If done on an upgrade weekend, you should get a 40% chance every mark from mark II up until approximately Mark X - Mark XI. Use Phoenix Kits to get the item the rest of the way to Mark XV. If you were unlucky and only got up to UR instead of Epic, you can use Phoenix Kits to get you the rest of the way.

    This is not only the most cost effective way, but also the highest chance of success.
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  • zaraszzarasz Member Posts: 186 Arc User
    During an upgrade weekend, upgrade the item using a Phoenix Universal Upgrade Kit from the Anniversary Event. If you don't have one, then head to the exchange and purchase 3 Omega Fragments. Combine them in your R&D Tab into a Phoenix Upgrade kit. This project will take 20 hrs.
    I just checked but couldnt find your kit, only the Omega Particle Tech Upgrade kit that comes from combining 3 Omega Fragments.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited June 2019
    zarasz wrote: »
    During an upgrade weekend, upgrade the item using a Phoenix Universal Upgrade Kit from the Anniversary Event. If you don't have one, then head to the exchange and purchase 3 Omega Fragments. Combine them in your R&D Tab into a Phoenix Upgrade kit. This project will take 20 hrs.
    I just checked but couldnt find your kit, only the Omega Particle Tech Upgrade kit that comes from combining 3 Omega Fragments.

    Sorry, I had a type-o in the original post, I corrected it.

    The kit you want to use is an Omega Kit which cannot be purchased on the exchange. Once crafted, they are bound to account. You can however, purchase 3 Omega Fragments and combine them in your R&D Tab under 'Special Projects.'

    Omega Fragments are on the exchange, they currently run about 650k EC Each.

    The project will take 20 hours and will award you 1 Omega Upgrade Kit.

    Sorry for the confusion, my bad.
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  • kitteneggs#2837 kitteneggs Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    what i would do is get some catalysts that help getting the rarity and skill setting higher, make sure you have a lot of energy credits to be able to get the tech upgrades (farm TFOs during weekend events and get the weekend R&D bonus materials packages which have a chance of giving you catalysts, and use endeavor rewards which most likely will give you tons of EC or just recycle a lot of the stuff from your TFOs (I'd salvage it instead of recycle it unless i can get over 10,000 EC on it through recycling it))
  • misanthrope#6636 misanthrope Member Posts: 84 Arc User
    Well just spent pretty much 31m credits to upgrade my item rarities today, I used research boost x1.5 and superior upgrade books and was only able to upgrade 3 items in rarity. One rare item to very rare, and two very rare items to ultra rare, it takes way too much energy credits and ore to upgrade rarity honestly.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    Well just spent pretty much 31m credits to upgrade my item rarities today, I used research boost x1.5 and superior upgrade books and was only able to upgrade 3 items in rarity. One rare item to very rare, and two very rare items to ultra rare, it takes way too much energy credits and ore to upgrade rarity honestly.

    Yep, sorry man.. your own fault.

    You did pretty much nothing I advised.. you did it the painful and expensive way. Shame, but hopefully you learned from it.
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  • misanthrope#6636 misanthrope Member Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited June 2019
    Well maybe I would've taken his advice if it was any good lol. Starting over with a low mark item and having to spend extra EC to buy that item and extra EC/dilithium to upgrade it to mk 15 is obviously not the answer, my gear was already mk 15 so there's no way I'm changing gear like that. Also I've done the Omega thing before back when the event was going on and it's just way too much effort to do, and it takes extra EC to do as well, so also unacceptable.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited June 2019
    Well, that's a nice way to reply to someone trying to help.

    I'll try anyway because I like hitting my head against a rock..

    Here is the method for getting items that you currently have up to a better rarity as cheaply as possible. Feel free to ignore this too.

    1. Start stockpiling your Dilithium and wait for a Phoenix Box Event.
    2. During the event, buy Phoenix Boxes from the Dilithium Store.
    3. Break down all VR, and Rare tokens into Commons. If you get an UR or Epic and you need it, use it.. otherwise convert them as well.
    4. Spend all your uncommon tokens to buy Phoenix Kits. Stockpile as many as you can.
    5. Again.. wait for an upgrade weekend. If you're upgrading on non upgrade weekends, you're going to pay through the nose.
    6. Pump Phoenix Kits into your items until they reach the rarity you want.

    Phoenix Kits count like 4 Superior Kits. If you use them on an Upgrade Weekend it's like putting 8 Superiors into your item every time. They cost Dilithum to buy the kits, but they don't cost any to apply. You end up saving a ton on Dilithium and there is no EC cost.

    DO NOT use 2x accelerators on high mark items. It's a 100% waste of EC. These are only good when used from Mark II. At high mark, they do nothing but burn EC.

    This is how Reputation and Fleet Gear is upgraded. Same for items you have that you want to improve.

    You need to weigh the costs of upgrading vs. starting over. Example:

    You have a Rifle that you like, it's Mark XII Very Rare. Lets say it's a Split Beam and you want to go Epic with it.
    You need to weigh the cost of pumping kits into a high mark/low rarity item vs. crafting a new one at low mark/low rarity and pushing forward that way. It's almost always cheaper to start over.

    This method is best used on items that can't be crafted. Event rewards, rep gear, fleet items, etc.

    Again, feel free to ignore the advice, but don't say it 'ain't any good.' It's how it's done, and it's far better then your method that you already said yourself is terrible.

    Knowing you, you will probably ignore the advice given, but hopefully it helps someone else reading this thread.

    Good luck.
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  • misanthrope#6636 misanthrope Member Posts: 84 Arc User
    Well coldnapalm, pretty much everything you said in that last post of yours went in one ear and out the other as the saying goes lol, must be all the nonsense you're spewing out aha as I didn't understand any of it. As for seaofsorrows, I understood most of what you said, and I once stockpiled about 50 phoenix upgrade books and saved them up for an upgrade week but to upgrade mark not rarity at the time. The starting over part just isn't what I do when I've had my current weapons for so long. I see it this way, you either do your method at the start when you don't have good weapons yet or if you've already got weapons that are mk 15 like mine starting over would be considered a waste of all the work I've put into those weapons and you just upgrade the weapons "as is".
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited June 2019
    I see it this way, you either do your method at the start when you don't have good weapons yet or if you've already got weapons that are mk 15 like mine starting over would be considered a waste of all the work I've put into those weapons and you just upgrade the weapons "as is".

    Your way will be horrifically expensive unless you use Phoenix Kits on an Upgrade Weekend.

    I have to admit, I find you confusing.. this isn't the first time I have seen you ask for advice and then disregard it. I am not trying to be hostile, I am trying to help you.. I am confused why you ask for help if you refuse to use it.

    Doing it the way you're doing it is not going to give you the results you want. If you have the Omega's and Accelerators already then starting over at Mark II is not just a little cheaper.. it's WAY cheaper.

    If you don't want to do that, it's fine.. but using Phoenix Kits on an upgrade weekend is the only cost effective way to pull it off. Usually during Phoenix Events, I buy several hundred Phoenix Kits, but that is to do multiple characters. If you're doing a full set of weapons and want to go from VR to Epic, you're going to need at least 100 kits, probably closer to 150-200.

    I strongly suggest you put the tone aside and listen to what Napalm and I are telling you. I have 10 characters with all Gold Gear and I spend a fraction of what you're spending. I am not saying this to prove I am better then you, or smarter then you.. just that I have learned over the years how this is done and I am trying to help you.

    I learned the 'hard way,' and wasted a lot of resources before I learned. I am trying to help you avoid those same mistakes, so is Napalm. Sure, he might not sugar coat everything, but he's trying to help you and you shouldn't ignore what he's saying.

    What you do with the advice given is up to you. Again, either way, I wish you luck.
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  • misanthrope#6636 misanthrope Member Posts: 84 Arc User
    Lol it's not like I'm completely disregarding what coldnapalm is saying, it's that I don't understand what he's saying and I kinda don't want to either. It's like trying to understand other people on here when they use abbreviations for lots of things, I have no idea what they're saying. Maybe someday I will try your method seaofsorrows.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    Ok, no problem.

    If anything I said needs further clarification, please feel free to let me know.
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    There are basically two situations you can find yourself in:

    1)
    You want to upgrade an item's rarity that is available at Very Rare Mark II, for example, purchasable on the Exchange, something you can craft.
    Even if you already have a higher Mark version of the item, chances are it will be less resource intensive to start with the Mark II item (even accounting for resources already spend on getting that item).

    Then, you want an Omega Upgrade, and upgrade the item once, possibly with a Research Boost, ideally during an upgrade weekend. The upgrade will grants so many tech points that the item will rise in several marks, and every time it gains a new mark, there is also a chance that it upgrades its rarity, and with the Omega Upgrade, it's really likely to happen. If the item did not go to Epic, you might decide to sell it on the Exchange or dismantle it, and try again. Either way, from now on, you probably don't want to use Omega Kits anymore for this item.

    The rest of the Marks you can do with Phoenix Upgrades (possibly with Tech Boosts) or Superior Upgrades (while tempting, I think boosts are wasted here. Boosts only boost a single upgrade kit, and a Phoenix Upgrade grants a lot more tech points per kit then a Superior Upgrade, meaning the boost is far more effective here.)

    If you don't have Omega Upgrade Kits, and absolutely no way of getting them and you need, you'll have to try to use the Romulan UPgrade Kits from Admiralty or Superior Experimental Upgrade Kits. And finally, of course, Superior Upgrades.


    2) You want to upgrade an item that you cannot get at Mark II. Like reputation gear, fleet gear, mission rewards and the "unique" craftables like the items from the Aegis Set or the Plasma-Emission Torpedo Launcher.
    In that case, the cheapest way is probably Phoenix Tokens, possibly augmented with tech boosters. Your item is unlikely to bump rarity before it reaches Mark XV. The good thing is that the rarity increase chance rolls over every time you complete the technology point progress bar, unless the item actually increases its rarity (then it resets). But unfortunately you also always have to complete that bar, so it doesn't really matter much whether you use tech or research upgrades. The second boosts the chance per completed tech bar, but the other lets you clear the tech bar faster.
    If you don't have Phoenix Kits, Superior Upgrades will have to do.



    If you have any Ultimate Upgrades, consider using it on items that are particularly expensive to upgrade, like shields, warp cores, impulse engines and deflectors. Ultimate Upgrades of course are hard to get, only available when the 20 Master Key box is available during a key sale or since recently, from TFO Buyouts (which means one purchase per account per Featured TFO). Sell the other master keys, maybe to afford yourself some Omega Fragments.



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  • nixie50nixie50 Member Posts: 1,350 Arc User
    when i want something, say a beam array, I craft 10-12 of the things of the special mod i want [PEN] or [Over] for eample. then I will use ONE superior ungrade and MAYBE a 1.5 research. if it doesnt go UR then I move to the next one. I usually get 2-3 out of a dozen to UR
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