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Should STO have vulgar language in it?
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Should STO have vulgar language in it? 62 votes
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Plenty of vulgarity in ESD, zone, Drozana, Risa, and DS9 chats. Doesn't bother me any. But I've heard far worse from NCOs when I was in the army.
Star Trek has swearing/profanity in it, so it's literally canon, and as the game has violence, and I believe, carries a 13 rating, it's allowed.
Really, what function does vulgarity perform in language? Does it shock you? Insult you? Why is it used at all?
It is used to give weight to otherwise weightless statements. And the more its used, the less impact it has. Nobody gasps anymore when a curse word is said on TV, but when I was a youngster even hinting at the swear was shocking. George Carlin's Seven Words bit was very risque back when it came out, but since then everyone's heard all of those words on TV and the bit has lost its impact.
There aren't that many years between George Carlin and Eddie Murphy. That's how fast vulgarity loses its impact. Murphy isn't funny because he swears; he's funny and he swears. If you can, find his old Saturday Might Live skits. Nary a curse and they will leave you rolling on the floor laughing.
So No. Not because they are profane, but because they insult the reader. Not because they are too risque for some of the game's audience, but because they add nothing to the conversation. Not because they are cutting-edge, but because they are old, tired, and worn out.
When I was in the Navy, everyone cursed, all the time. It was part of daily conversation. There was one senior petty oficer who never used profanity. Everybody strained to hear what he said. When cursing becomes commonplace it has zero impact, but the one who doesn't use vulgarity stands out.
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
The last thing we want is a puritanical approach of modern day companies who are scared to offend some random antisocial media addicted muppet who'll then start some nonsensical pitchfork waving bandwagon.
I'm generally not someone who swears whereas folk I work with treat it as a form of punctuation. If I do happen to let something slip for whatever reason you can see them take notice.
Profanity, when done well, is one way of developing a character. Let's face it, there is too little character development in entertainment these days. Indeed, I find lazy infantile writing to be more offensive than a curse word here or there.
Plus as an adult I find it insulting when someone tries to infantilize us with the concept that an idea may only be expressed in the approved manner. It's the same infantile behavior we see these days when one is presented with an outcome they don't like; their response is to scream into the air like a child. In public, even.
Then there is the counter intuitive position of "Those who use profanity have a limited vocabulary," when, in fact, if you've excised profanity from your vocabulary you have chosen to limit your own vocabulary.
Yes, it reveals a skewed set of priorities when one will balk at people having the seks or saying the fartword, but take the murderously mass murder in stride.
It was used to comedic effect, it was pretty funny.
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As for the Star Trek (Online) Multiverse... whatever. I don't particularly care, and I'm pretty sure vulgarity is considered 'formal' for some species.
That said, expletives are usually more impactful when they're reserved for suitably dire moments. When they're thrown out for every asinine thing, they tend to grow stale rather quickly(to the point where word filters can actually make conversations more entertaining).
Language is a tool and it can be used well or poorly. It's not like the terrans were dropping f-bombs for the sake of it. STO self-censoring their language for the sake of not having "naughty" language will to lines that are clumsy or unintentionally silly.
If somewhat harsher language is used in the future in the same way as in these episodes I'm perfectly fine with it, it's only when vulgar language is used for its own sake I have issues with it.
Teen.
"Content is generally suitable for ages 13 and up. May contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling and/or infrequent use of strong language."
The usage in the game fits with the description of the rating. If it offends you, then you will want to stick with games with a rating of "Everyone" or "Everyone 10+"
However, IMO, this game is supposed to be a game that has a large number of younger people. Therefore, the use of that type of language should not be here. That could have an effect on the STO's ESRB rating.
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Again, it's Rating is already 'Teen' and it's well within that rating.
Yeah... infrequent use of strong language, but I am concerned that this "might" be a precedent where future missions use such language more liberally. THAT can affect the game's ESRB rating.
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I don't thinks it's unforgivably bad; but again, it didn't really add anything to the story (Which given how it was set up had plotholes you could pass a Planet through:
Again, if it adds something to the story yes; but to do it just to do it - I could take it or leave it; and given that the majority of this game is TNG era based - and that er a of Trek was made more 'Family Friendly' then any other Trek era - if you're gonna go down that path; use it for something that really IS a good story (and the two entries so far in MoD are mediocre at best although Mary Wiseman did a good job with mediocre material to work with here IMO).
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