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Galaxy X: Do you want an update to this ship with Universal Cmndr. Station?
tripwire690
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Who would like to see the Galaxy X rebooted with an update similar to the new Jem Hadar Battle Crusier layout? Who would like to see a Commander Universal and Commander Engineering Station PLUS 4 Tactical consoles added to an updated variant of this famous vessel?
Let no other Captain discourage you from what you believe you can achieve in PvP. Debuffs and Disables be damned! Charge up your Backstep and Forge your build out of Lock Boxes, Consoles, and Flash Sales feeding off of only your pure will to chain, spam, and hax your way forward. You will not be forgotten to history.
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Galaxy X: Do you want an update to this ship with Universal Cmndr. Station? 48 votes
Yes. Its long been underpowered and due for an update!
37%
18 votes
No. Its powerful enough as is so why do it need an update?!
47%
23 votes
Maybe. Its good but not as good as it should be in the game!
14%
7 votes
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Ship is fine the way it is, there is no need to go and try to make it an OP uber ship.
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I don't want anything. I don't personally care what they do to the ship. I fly Science Vessels. But I know Captains who would like to see it have more of a Battle Cruiser type feel layout wise and the Jem Hadar Battle Cruiser is a nice addition to the game that could make other ships updated with a similar approach such as the Galaxy X used a lot more often again.
And its funny you write as if its JUST A SKIN. So I suppose any ship Cryptic releases after the JHBC that has a dual commander/universal layout is just a "Jem BC but with a Galaxy-X skin". No. That's not accurate to say the least. The Galaxy X would make a prime candidate for this new line of ships we are inevitably going to see coming down the pipeline. And seeing as the JHBC is not OP but definitely something new I"d expect it to be the same with the other ships that are undoubtedly going to be just like it.
Let no other Captain discourage you from what you believe you can achieve in PvP. Debuffs and Disables be damned! Charge up your Backstep and Forge your build out of Lock Boxes, Consoles, and Flash Sales feeding off of only your pure will to chain, spam, and hax your way forward. You will not be forgotten to history.
I'd just like them to FIX Gorn (KDF) Bridge Officer's so they once again stayed as Purple Very Rare even after you commission them and actually had two SUPERIOR traits.
Your ship already has a spinal lance, hangar bay, cloak, AND can field dual cannons. Yet you want MORE. POWERCREEP FOR THE POWERCREEP GODS! PEWPEW, FOR THE PEWPEW THRONE!
The greed and jealousy are strong with the OP. He couldn't even conjure a thought to suggest something for the other factions, because **** them, right? What do you suggest that the Romulans and KDF receive in tandem? Another Federation inside sabotage job, like the Bortasqu' was?
If you didn't want it, you wouldn't ask for it, right? You also never mentioned what you would be willing to sacrifice for the kind of power you're wanting added to the ship.
Dude. Take some salt pills. I fly Science Vessels. I could care less what they do to it. But I think because of the release of the JHBC why not update the Galaxy X with a similar bridge officer seating? It will give the ship utility it currently doesn't have. Now maybe 5 tac consoles IS too good to be true. So lets say 4tac and split the rest between science and engineering consoles. Also a 5/2 layout would give it a bit more forward facing punch.
Is it too much to suggest that maybe updating one of the iconic ships players have come to know and love; but rarely see used would be a good thing? I think there is enough alien lock box OP TRIBBLE stat wise in the game. I don't think anyone would be opposed to a line of Faction Specific Iconic Lock Box Variants. I'm sure someone would be willing to buy that for a dollar.
And my reason for creating the poll was just to see where players thoughts are on the idea. Don't look at it like a dagger being thrown at your head. Its not that serious.
Let no other Captain discourage you from what you believe you can achieve in PvP. Debuffs and Disables be damned! Charge up your Backstep and Forge your build out of Lock Boxes, Consoles, and Flash Sales feeding off of only your pure will to chain, spam, and hax your way forward. You will not be forgotten to history.
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Defiant, Prometheus, Galaxy X, Sovereign, Intrepid..... These are Iconic Ships that players want to fly. More to the point these are ships in game that players want to be competitive to a lot of the Alien ,Kelvin Timeline, Xindi Reptilian, Xindi Aquatic, Temporal, etc.... stuff available. Pick your playstyle. None of these ships may fit that playstyle. But I don't think its unreasonable for these Ships to be bumped up enough to compete with everything else. Everyone doesn't want to fly a Galaxy X. But Everyone doesn't want to fly an Odyssey Class either.
Let no other Captain discourage you from what you believe you can achieve in PvP. Debuffs and Disables be damned! Charge up your Backstep and Forge your build out of Lock Boxes, Consoles, and Flash Sales feeding off of only your pure will to chain, spam, and hax your way forward. You will not be forgotten to history.
How is it not competitive? If you want to fly a Galaxy X there is absolutely no reason why you can't.
I have a character that few one for quite a while as her main ship. I liked the ship and it fit her so I used it. I did Advanced and Elite Queues with my fleet.. no problem.
You seem to be under the impression that the Galaxy X is a bad ship or that it can't do what other ships can do, and that's simply not correct. Now, if you wanted to argue that it's not a very versatile ship.. then you would have a point, it's bridge officer layout makes it very limited in what it can do, but it's still a perfectly viable ship.
Frankly those are words from people who don't know anything about the ship. The lance has a massive built in miss rate. The lance only hits 20% of the time on use even if the target is not moving.
The cloaking device is a console therefore wasting a slot whereas ALL KDF, and rommie ship have them built in giving a whole console slot advantage. The defiant, avenger and GAL X are the ONLY 3 ships in game that are Cannon that force a console to cloak. This is a massive power disadvantage.
The boff layout is screams identity crisis. The ship per trek cannon is a war ship with a BFG that destroyed Neg Var in 5 shots. Many KDF and Rommie ships are obviously built for war in Sto, whereas the X is what? Not enough tac boffs to do any real dmg, not enough sci to heal, and a standard eng seats. EXAMPLE look at the Kelvin dread, perfect boff layout, hanger bay, 5/3 loadout, built in cloaking device, AND a built in mask energy signature. Now Again for PVE, the gal x is fine, when fighting mindless NPCs and just farming no big deal, put that ship in a pvp fight your dead in a instant.
So what is the point In all this? The point is to make the ship specialized for a purpose. The sci ships have sci, escorts have have dmg. But for hybrid ships like the GALX and other tactical cruisers and carriers make them for dmg like the Kelvin, give them things like the Kelvin that make sense and actually work rather than punishing a player by losing out on a Console slot just to cloak, a lance that is trash, and a 6 point turn rate.
Doing a comparison of the Kelvin dread and the Gal x.
Both can load dual cannons
Both have hanger bays 1x
GAL X has no built in cloak, forces it to a 10 console ship, like a T5U if cloak is used.
Kelvin has a built in cloak, keeps all 11 console slots.
Kelvin has 5/3 loadout
GALX had 4/4 loadout
Kelvin has way better universal boffs for ulitity.
GAL X has 1 ensign universal boff and boff locked to be forced to use the ship in a certain manner.
Kelvin does not have a phaser lance
Gal x has a phaser lance that misses 80% of the time with a built In horrific miss rate.
Kelvin turn rate 7 with 40 inertia
Gal x turn rate of 6 Inertia if 25
Kevin has a built in mask energy signature
(While not in cloak the enemy cant see you if your more than 8 to 10k away)
Gal X does not have such an ability.
KDF and romulan stats are even better than these for their Dps cruiser types, why do you think the DPS league logo is the romulan scemmtar? The point is power creep is a real thing, cryptic makes money on this all the time.
The argument here is to try to keep the loved cannon hero ships somewhat up to date to keep up with the power creep in the game, so for those who say the gal x is awesome, sadly your mistaken. The GAL X is a very underpowered ship to TODAYS standards.
Believe me, I one of the original 50 players in the game to get the ship when it was a reward 8 years ago from the recruiting achievement and I been flying it ever since for 8 years in a row, I know every nook of the ship, what it can and cant do, it's amazing strengths and its horrific flaws. I pve with it and pvp with it, if your just a PVE player, than you can still make due, but if ur a pvper the ship will require a GREAT deal of work.
The only reason why it works for me in pvp is due to 8 years of pvp experience, the amount of insane resources I dumped into it, and testing and re testing all its weaknesses and strengths. So I can make it work most of the time but against some of this new insane ships there is nothing one can do.
If anyone wishes to 1 vs 1 me or hell even 10 vs 1 me gal x vs gal x I'm down to prove my point.
Thanks for reading,
Afterburner@methous
Starfleet Recon
I've got to ask the same question seaofsorrows did, in what way is the ship not competitive? I will grant that the lance needs to not miss like it does 90% of the time, but that's a minor issue with an easy correction if that's something you're concerned about. Ships don't need to be exactly like the Jem'hadar Light Battlcruiser to be competitive in today's game.
Despite what some folks may say, there is no "best" setup or "best" ship in game. To put it bluntly if someone has told you otherwise then they've lied to you. There are certain ships and energy types etc that will lend more advantages to certain builds and playstyles than others, but that's where what is "best" ends. What may work best for me may not work best for someone else. Personally I flew the Galor well into Delta Rising and no matter what I did, even my t6 ships simply were not able to keep up with my Galor for what I needed it to do. The only thing that got me out of the Galor was the Keldon itself, and a ship equally as nasty as it which is the Tucker Miracle worker. Now although I would swear by the Keldon and the Tucker for tanking, there may be folks out there who despise both of those ships and that's perfectly fine.
As for the Gal-X itself, in terms of power it was second in line to my Galor and even today is still a best of a tank imo. Today's game is about 20% gear and setup, the other 80% is the pilot. Not every ship is going to fit everyone's playstyle, nor are they meant to fit everyone's playstyle. I've yet to have an issue with the Gal-X aside from the lance missing too much, but again, easily correctable issue.
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Let no other Captain discourage you from what you believe you can achieve in PvP. Debuffs and Disables be damned! Charge up your Backstep and Forge your build out of Lock Boxes, Consoles, and Flash Sales feeding off of only your pure will to chain, spam, and hax your way forward. You will not be forgotten to history.
Exactly! Why not?! It doesn't have to outclass the current Meta Ships but its showing its age. It would be another great Iconic Ship to reboot in relevance to this Meta's Ships of the Line. And hopefully we see the Excelsior and other ships in the same boat get a little attention this Season.
Let no other Captain discourage you from what you believe you can achieve in PvP. Debuffs and Disables be damned! Charge up your Backstep and Forge your build out of Lock Boxes, Consoles, and Flash Sales feeding off of only your pure will to chain, spam, and hax your way forward. You will not be forgotten to history.
> Yep. Knew it wouldn't take long before a fed player saw the JH LBC, and went "I want that for my faction to have." How many cruisers/battlecruisers can you name, packing 5 tact consoles? I can name four, off the bat. And they're all in the Odyssey/Bortasqu' line. Want to make it a 5/3 while you're at it? Give it a transforming mode for the movement of a BoP? Innate, consoleless pre-balance Plasmonic Leech?
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> Your ship already has a spinal lance, hangar bay, cloak, AND can field dual cannons. Yet you want MORE. POWERCREEP FOR THE POWERCREEP GODS! PEWPEW, FOR THE PEWPEW THRONE!
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> The greed and jealousy are strong with the OP. He couldn't even conjure a thought to suggest something for the other factions, because **** them, right? What do you suggest that the Romulans and KDF receive in tandem? Another Federation inside sabotage job, like the Bortasqu' was?
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> If you didn't want it, you wouldn't ask for it, right? You also never mentioned what you would be willing to sacrifice for the kind of power you're wanting added to the ship.
My Fed-Rom is all for buffing the Gal-X, she's slready planning out where the bathtub will be installed.
We need more players like you :P
Anyway, a Univ Cmdr seat wouldnt fit, because it's role as a Dreadnought cruiser was defined from the very beginning. It's only purpose is for combat. A JHBC however seems to be useful for multiple roles, at least it seemed like that in the series. That's also why KDF BoP have all Univ seats, because they were used for just about everything. If anything the Normal T6 Exploration cruiser should get a Univ Cmdr seat. The Gal-X, I just want them to buff the spinal lance to do more than tickle the enemy
Anyone want to give me a Temporal Heavy Dreadnought pack? I'll be your friend
Not like it'll happen, but hey, I'd still be happy if it did.
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> I've got to ask the same question seaofsorrows did, in what way is the ship not competitive? I will grant that the lance needs to not miss like it does 90% of the time, but that's a minor issue with an easy correction if that's something you're concerned about. Ships don't need to be exactly like the Jem'hadar Light Battlcruiser to be competitive in today's game.
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> Despite what some folks may say, there is no "best" setup or "best" ship in game. To put it bluntly if someone has told you otherwise then they've lied to you. There are certain ships and energy types etc that will lend more advantages to certain builds and playstyles than others, but that's where what is "best" ends. What may work best for me may not work best for someone else. Personally I flew the Galor well into Delta Rising and no matter what I did, even my t6 ships simply were not able to keep up with my Galor for what I needed it to do. The only thing that got me out of the Galor was the Keldon itself, and a ship equally as nasty as it which is the Tucker Miracle worker. Now although I would swear by the Keldon and the Tucker for tanking, there may be folks out there who despise both of those ships and that's perfectly fine.
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> As for the Gal-X itself, in terms of power it was second in line to my Galor and even today is still a best of a tank imo. Today's game is about 20% gear and setup, the other 80% is the pilot. Not every ship is going to fit everyone's playstyle, nor are they meant to fit everyone's playstyle. I've yet to have an issue with the Gal-X aside from the lance missing too much, but again, easily fixable
Hello rubber banding my old friend, time to bounce around the battlezone again, where are all my bug reports going?, out of love with this game I am falling, As Cryptic fail to acknowledge a problem exists, Shakes an angry fist, And from Support all I'm hearing are the sounds of silence.