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Would you like to See (hear) Jeffrey Combs Voice Shon in gmae

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Would you like to See (hear) Jeffrey Combs Voice Shon in gmae 57 votes

YES! Jeffrey Combs should voice him
38%
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No! leave it how it is
56%
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Other! I think somone else should do the voice
5%
garaks31sirsitsalotheavensrun 3 votes

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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    No! leave it how it is
    Unless I am mistaken, wasn't he approached to voice Shon when the character was created, but turned the role down?
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,008 Arc User
    I can't comment on whether he was approached before or not, but wouldn't it be kind of dumb to simply copy Shran and just call him Shon? STO does a lot of those unlucky/implausible homages by simply copying former characters or events almost 1:1 (see the Doomsday device - they copied the original episode down to the sacrifice and even speak some of the exact same lines).​​
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited April 2018
    No! leave it how it is
    I would be inclined to agree with you @angrytarg ; Shran was a great addition to the Enterprise show, but him voicing Shon wouldn't be Shran, and as such, seems pointless - it would ultimately just be using a known voice for the sake of a voiceover.

    What we need, maybe next season, is to revisit a temporal arc where we find ourselves in the 22nd Century and have a few episodes with Shran; then we can have Coombs back for some justified voice work.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    No! leave it how it is
    i prefer the characters to be a bit more unique. so no, i don't want Shon to lose his voice actor.
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,507 Arc User
    No! leave it how it is
    There's just no reason to! He's already doing Weyoun as it is, and anyone with decent hearing will tell you that Weyoun and Shran had very little difference in inflections because there was no need to add much because of the 200 year time difference.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,965 Arc User
    edited April 2018
    No! leave it how it is
    > @leemwatson said:
    > There's just no reason to! He's already doing Weyoun as it is, and anyone with decent hearing will tell you that Weyoun and Shran had very little difference in inflections because there was no need to add much because of the 200 year time difference.

    Eh, not so much. Weyoun was always voiced as a diplomat and politician who could be vicious or obsequious. Whereas Shran usually had a cockiness that Weyoun never did. (Jeffrey Combs was a better actor as Shran than ENT deserved.)

    Gotta agree with the crowd though: STO's OCs are getting shafted enough as it is. I want FEWER celebrity cameos so A, they're more of an event, and B, I feel less like an extra in my own story.
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,507 Arc User
    edited April 2018
    No! leave it how it is
    starswordc wrote: »
    > @leemwatson said:
    > There's just no reason to! He's already doing Weyoun as it is, and anyone with decent hearing will tell you that Weyoun and Shran had very little difference in inflections because there was no need to add much because of the 200 year time difference.

    Eh, not so much. Weyoun was always voiced as a diplomat and politician who could be vicious or obsequious. Whereas Shran usually had a cockiness that Weyoun never did. (Jeffrey Combs was a better actor as Shran than ENT deserved.)

    Gotta agree with the crowd though: STO's OCs are getting shafted enough as it is. I want FEWER celebrity cameos so A, they're more of an event, and B, I feel less like an extra in my own story.

    Well yes, Weyoun was a (bad) diplomat, but an ultimate self-absorbed, manipulative brown-noser, and Shran was a strong willed, principled, if not cocky at times commander, but there was no difference in accent, unlike when he played Brunt, where the difference was very obvious, most likely due to the false teeth!

    Having read your previous comments about playing second fiddle to these stars, I kind of like the 'interaction' and the value it adds. We have alot of glory heaped upon our characters through the first '18 months' of our careers, and to be honest, it was almost running away to the point of ludicrous speed! :lol: (Shameless Spaceballs pun totally intended). Seeing as the Dev's have not yet given us Exploration back, why not take some time to step back and let other's shine some of their light (again). It shouldn't be lost on you that it wasn't that long ago some people were asking when were Cryptic going to get some more TV stars back in on the act. I'd love to see a long comedic diatribe between Picard and De'Lancie's Q in this game (which we know is virtually not going to happen, but here's hoping!). One of my most favourite moments in game is the 'Voyageresque' Delta Arc intro, which is voiced by the Voyager crew. We're still the star of the show, creating our own Legend, who just so happens to meet up with the TV Legends in our journey.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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  • captainwellscaptainwells Member Posts: 718 Arc User
    No! leave it how it is
    Given that the versatile Mr. Combs has played a handful of Trek races/roles and is committed to reprising two of his entourage for VIL; I would not mind having him bring Thy'lek Shran back into the game in another round of content?
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,507 Arc User
    No! leave it how it is
    Given that the versatile Mr. Combs has played a handful of Trek races/roles and is committed to reprising two of his entourage for VIL; I would not mind having him bring Thy'lek Shran back into the game in another round of content?

    Yup, would love getting some Enterprise era Actors and Kelvin TL Actors back in! But we need a year's break from time-travel shenanigans! lol
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  • postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,899 Arc User
    No! leave it how it is
    If he was to voice weyoun and shon you'd inevitably end up with a repeat of the ridiculous conversations like the one tnae and taris have in the romulan arc.

    Due to the audio editor leaving overly long pauses between each line and the vocal lines themselves done by such a distinctive voice that is overused in STO on the one hand and on the other didn't even try to disguise the fact she was talking to herself.

    Remember a lot of the characters nuances will have come from the performance not just the voice.
  • locutusofcactuslocutusofcactus Member Posts: 651 Arc User
    No! leave it how it is
    Leave Shon. But it's definitely cool to have Jeffrey Combs coming to STO. It also would be cool to have him voice Shran if that character makes it to STO. Imo, Weyoun and Shran were some of the best characters in Trek. Too much make-up on Brunt to catch all the facial nuances Combs could portray but still a good character.

    And who was the genius who said "Let's make Levar Burton wear a visor over the most expressive part of the human face". Geordi could have been a better character. ---further down the rabbit hole--- for Voyager, they purposely designed the costumes to be black everywhere except the head area to have the focus on the characters in the shots if I remember correctly. With the exception 7 of 9 because 7 of 9.
  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,937 Arc User
    YES! Jeffrey Combs should voice him
    flash525 wrote: »
    I would be inclined to agree with you @angrytarg ; Shran was a great addition to the Enterprise show, but him voicing Shon wouldn't be Shran, and as such, seems pointless - it would ultimately just be using a known voice for the sake of a voiceover.

    What we need, maybe next season, is to revisit a temporal arc where we find ourselves in the 22nd Century and have a few episodes with Shran; then we can have Coombs back for some justified voice work.

    he played so many roles, seems like they could write ups a couple different scrips and get thier bang for the buck
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,689 Arc User
    No! leave it how it is
    No, the current actor for Shon (Dave Rivas) has done a good job, and is probably much more affordable to have do non "event" appearances by Shon whenever it makes sense for him to appear.

    With Combs they'd a harder time both for scheduling the work and paying for it.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    No! leave it how it is
    No, the current actor for Shon (Dave Rivas) has done a good job, and is probably much more affordable to have do non "event" appearances by Shon whenever it makes sense for him to appear.

    With Combs they'd a harder time both for scheduling the work and paying for it.

    Rivas has done a really good job with Shon and he should continue with Shon.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    No! leave it how it is
    I would love to see Coombs as Thy'lek Shran. But, while Shon is similar.... not the same guy.
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  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 5,051 Arc User
    No! leave it how it is
    flash525 wrote: »
    I would be inclined to agree with you @angrytarg ; Shran was a great addition to the Enterprise show, but him voicing Shon wouldn't be Shran, and as such, seems pointless - it would ultimately just be using a known voice for the sake of a voiceover.

    What we need, maybe next season, is to revisit a temporal arc where we find ourselves in the 22nd Century and have a few episodes with Shran; then we can have Coombs back for some justified voice work.

    We don't even need a new temporal arc for that.

    They could just have our characters play some of the crew of Enterprise. Like they did with Neth Parr.
    Enterprise was used to help Riker, apparently Starfleet knows enough details even during TNG to completely recreate the events that took place.

    Have us play an Enterprise character in a simulation and put Shran in it. This could also work for Discovery and TOS characters.
  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 5,051 Arc User
    No! leave it how it is
    And I agree with the things others have said. Shon would just become Shran 2.0 if he sounded exactly the same.

    He'd lose his uniqueness and at the same time, if they ever brought the character of Shran into the game one way or another, then that character would also be less special.
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  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,393 Arc User
    No! leave it how it is
    Honestly I can't remember Combs ever having played a character like Shon, aka a fairly traditional "hero" style character.

    Closest I can remember him playing such character would be Ratchet in Transformers Prime and even there the character had this "grumpy reluctant hero" feel to him.

    As for turning Shon into Shran 2.0, as it has said it would make both characters loose their uniqueness and be disfavor for both characters.

    I don't see any good reason to replace Dave Rivas' performance.
  • heavensrunheavensrun Member Posts: 215 Arc User
    Other! I think somone else should do the voice
    leemwatson wrote: »
    Given that the versatile Mr. Combs has played a handful of Trek races/roles and is committed to reprising two of his entourage for VIL; I would not mind having him bring Thy'lek Shran back into the game in another round of content?

    Yup, would love getting some Enterprise era Actors and Kelvin TL Actors back in! But we need a year's break from time-travel shenanigans! lol

    Doesn't have to be time-travel. We have holodecks.
  • heavensrunheavensrun Member Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited April 2018
    Other! I think somone else should do the voice
    I would like to have somebody else play Shon, he's just...so...Captain Proton.;

    But not Combs. I love Combs, but Shon is a very different character from Shran.
  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    No! leave it how it is
    New voice overs for new stuff. Leave the old stuff alone.

    Why chance messing something up by fiddling with stuff already set.
    Look what happens to the program when they try manipulating anything old....yeah, the program gets confused.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,669 Community Moderator
    edited April 2018
    No! leave it how it is
    where2r1 wrote: »
    New voice overs for new stuff. Leave the old stuff alone.

    Why chance messing something up by fiddling with stuff already set.
    Look what happens to the program when they try manipulating anything old....yeah, the program gets confused.

    Well... I think Ambassador Surah of the Deferi went through a couple voices. And so did B'vat and Hakeev.
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