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Probert's Original Ambassador

pwemademedothispwemademedothis Member Posts: 89 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
A ship I'd always wanted in this game was an end-game level Ambassador as Andrew Probert originally designed her. Due to time and cost constraints the story goes, the version we see in the episode "Yesterday's Enterprise" was settled on but the original concept was a beauty; a sleek design mid-way between the Excelsior and Galaxy. Does anyone know why it never happened even as an alternate skin? Did anyone at Cryptic ever mention the why of it?

It would make an awesome Miracle Worker T6 now I think.

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  • steaensteaen Member Posts: 646 Arc User
    edited February 2018
    Wasn't that used as the basis for the Guardian Class design?
  • vampeiyrevampeiyre Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    Yeah, the Guardian is 95% a copycat of the original Probert Ambassador concept, and people still found a reason to moan about it.
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,515 Arc User
    edited February 2018
    steaen wrote: »
    Wasn't that used as the basis for the Guardian Class design?

    Yes it was, and I'm 100% positive there was a Dev blog stating the Guardian was the Ambassador's 'upgrade'. Also, apart from the glaringly obvious visual simularities, the stats are practically identical. I have the ALL version of the Ambassador, and the Guardian, and she is, in my view the T6 Ambassador. And yes, I realise you can't use the Ambassador parts, but I'm sure it's a technical thing that a Dev might sort in his spare time.

    Needless to say, Dev's have stated that there is no plans to upgrade any more non-T6 designs, as posted in a couple other posts.

    Also, if one reads through the descriptions in-game, ships like the Norway and Steamrunner were mentioned as upgraded into the Akira/Alita family of designs.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,689 Community Moderator
    vampeiyre wrote: »
    Yeah, the Guardian is 95% a copycat of the original Probert Ambassador concept, and people still found a reason to moan about it.

    Because it can't use Ambassador parts. That's their gripe with it.
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  • pwemademedothispwemademedothis Member Posts: 89 Arc User
    The Guardian isn't remotely as elegant as the original design. Sorry I bothered to ask; won't happen again.
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  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,016 Arc User
    pwemademedothis wrote: »
    The Guardian isn't remotely as elegant as the original design. Sorry I bothered to ask; won't happen again.

    I like it, it's a nice take on the Probert design
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      I think if we give the tier 3 ambassador that's already in the game , we put in proberts ambassador maybe as a skin type for the same requirements as the original ambassador
    • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,215 Arc User
      edited March 2018
      rattler2 wrote: »
      vampeiyre wrote: »
      Yeah, the Guardian is 95% a copycat of the original Probert Ambassador concept, and people still found a reason to moan about it.

      Because it can't use Ambassador parts. That's their gripe with it.
      For me it's both this and the differing console slot setup, the T5U Fleet Ambassador has 3 tac 4 sci 4 eng, while the Fleet Guardian has 3 tac 3 sci 5 eng.

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    • seriousxenoseriousxeno Member Posts: 473 Arc User
      Would be nice if it could be model for a future T6 Support Cruiser.
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