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Console will not have a patch applied during this maintenance, but you can find our PC patch notes here.
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Seriously, anyone who knows the script (which is basically anyone who actually pays attention to what is written) knows the episode was badly placed in the timeline just for the fact the Alliance was mentioned and a KDF captain could do the mission being completely friendly and helpful towards a Starfleet captain.
It's not "fitting the flow of the STO story better", it's making sure the timeline is coherent.
What you did was the equivalent of putting the Force Awakens between Revenge of the Sith and Rogue One and wondering why viewers kept complaining about things like Snoke replacing Sidious or the planet-sized superweapon as opposed to the moon-sized one or even Darth Vader being dead and having a disturbing grandson.
After the nimbus arc would have been better for an early standpoint but as pointed out above the writing indicates current sto events not those around the time of nimbus.
Shame that new characters will miss the two piece of omni and console to level with after the change goes through, lowbie ships don't really benefit from a tric's long cd
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Yeah it did thank you guess mine just glitched out a bit it happens lol.
Your KDF point is kind of irrelevant, since it was in New Frontiers for them, though it did have a low minimum level, and might have been auto-hailed to them at that low level if they had auto-hailing of missions turned on. The Alliance is only mentioned in the Journal entry for the mission, which you probably wouldn't see as a Starfleet character, even if you didn't have auto-hail turned on, since both it and the mission prior to it, Past Imperfect, are given to you by Admiral Quinn, and you only need to go to the Journal to get a mission manually when they have different contacts, or when something like a promotion mission disrupts the process before you can take the new mission offered when you're turning in the previous one. So there's very little game story reason for it to have been necessary to move it for Starfleet characters, aside from the Journal entry, which many wouldn't have even seen unless they were going through to replay it for the other set pieces. This was more the equivalent of seeing the opening scroll for Return of the Jedi at the beginning of Attack of the Clones. A spoiler for the existence of the Alliance at some point in some text that you may not even see at the beginning, but really nothing in the story of the mission itself that is necessarily out of place where it is.
The most-basic reason to have it where it now is is that it has to take place in 2410, since it's established in canon that that's when the Nexus comes back around. There's some debate as to exactly when 2410 begins*, but it's definitely not before we go to Nimbus. In fact, given a later mention of Sela disappearing "last year" during What's Left Behind, a mission that definitely takes place after the latest that 2410 can start (somewhere between A Step Between Stars and Surface Tension) it can't be any earlier than after Cutting the Cord.
*The debate has to do with Delta Recruits being specifically shown that Cold Storage takes place in June, 2410, even though it clearly comes before Surface Tension, which had referenced that it was now 2410 in its opening cinematic. Having Beyond the Nexus any time after Surface Tension would even alleviate the Alliance mention in the Journal entry.
Also, the mission was placed after Temporal Ambassador, even for the KDF before it was changed again a while ago.
So they first put it in New Frontiers, which made sense, with the only issue with continuity being that according to the Generations movie, the Nexus appears in Federation space every 39.1 years, and thus it was supposed to be somewhere in 2410, instead of 2411 (though with all the temporal shenanigans that happened, it wouldn't be that surprising to have slight variations in the timeline, especially with a spatio-temporal anomaly like the Nexus).
Then, they decide to put it after Temporal Ambassador. Which would make sense for Feds and even Romulans, but definitely not for KDF who are still at war against the Federation, and even during their time in the Dyson Sphere, the relationship was very strained as displayed in Surface Tension where your KDF character can be a jerk when you need to beam to ESD.
So, they then decide to put the KDF version back in New Frontiers (instead of removing the mission for KDF players), but not the Fed version which in turn brings a temporal inconsistency as Fed, KDF and Romulan storylines are supposed to follow the same timeline as concurrent points of view until they all get the same missions (at the Spectres arc, more or less).
And now, the Fed version is back to New Frontiers with the other one.
So all those steps to try and give Beyond the Nexus a proper place in the timeline, with dialogue changes, new recorded lines, missed references to the Alliance were for naught. And all of those steps could have been avoided if they had paid more attention to the script.
That's my issue as it was an easily-avoidable time-&-money-costing mistake.
The replayability of this game is horrible. Its exactly the same cookie cutter experience on every new character. I thought this might be changing with that mission early on since it gave new characters a better weapon option than random loot drops, but now you go and take that away. This game REALLY needs to have a major change where rep set items and mission rewards can be account bound and moved to new characters (at mk infinity). It would make for a lot more variety and fun to have some decent sets available on new characters.